Mimic: New Creative Sampler
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Funny how it sounds like the toxicity comes from those claiming it's a toxic place
You never see most non trolling users saying anything even remotely similar ♂️
You never see most non trolling users saying anything even remotely similar ♂️
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I don’t know why a mod would say this? Being bipolar is a serious medical illness and isn’t something a forum should ‘stay vigilant’ about. I think it should be moderators role to implement the forum rules, not to speculate on forum members health. That’s for a professional to do.EnochLight wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021This I can totally agree with. We’ve had quite a few “new” users appear here in the last month that are clearly too comfortable around here, which almost always suggests it’s someone we banned before, or an existing forum member being crafty about creating another account. It’s very easy to tell from how they post. After someone gets banned so many times, they start to learn how to skirt the rules. We have ways of permanently banning but it’s only effective to a certain degree.
We’ll try to stay vigilant. As long as our long time forum members keep reporting posts and help steer some of our more “bipolar” members who have a breakdown, it helps a great deal.
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They did use quotes. Is there a need to make a deal about that? Being a mod is not a job or anything, they are just like the rest of the users.
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I was reading the manual and found something interesting, in single playback mode it can snap to slice, in combination with that you can set randomize start position - i've not tried it myself yet but i think it is possible.CrunkNationEnt wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021Does anyone know if Mimic has automated random slicing?
Randomized slicing (chops) that are not bound by beats or peaks.
Thanks.
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Yes, I know they did use ‘quotes’. But the discussion was about how members are supposedly being toxic. I just think it’s best to keep name calling out of a forum especially if you trying to keep healthy debate from descending into a argumentPhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021They did use quotes. Is there a need to make a deal about that? Being a mod is not a job or anything, they are just like the rest of the users.
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Yes you can do that and you can set it so it is not bound by slices either, like the person you are responding to wants (because slices are set by transients) so it can totally be random both ways.djadalaide wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021I was reading the manual and found something interesting, in single playback mode it can snap to slice, in combination with that you can set randomize start position - i've not tried it myself yet but i think it is possible.CrunkNationEnt wrote: ↑11 Sep 2021Does anyone know if Mimic has automated random slicing?
Randomized slicing (chops) that are not bound by beats or peaks.
Thanks.
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I imagine he refers to some users who appear normal and suddenly turn into phallus-like people when he said that?Shadoww wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021Yes, they did use quotes. But the discussion is about how members are supposedly being toxic. It’s best to keep name calling out of a forum. Whether it’s in jest or in quotes.PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021They did use quotes. Is there a need to make a deal about that? Being a mod is not a job or anything, they are just like the rest of the users.
I don't know, anyways, I don't think I've seen you before, what kind of user are you?
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Ah ok, I haven’t seen those types of toxic post yet. I’m a newish Reason standalone users about start experimenting with Mimic in r12 .PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021I imagine he refers to some users who appear normal and suddenly turn into phallus-like people when he said that?
I don't know, anyways, I don't think I've seen you before, what kind of user are you?
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Welcome to the forum! Is Reason your first daw?Shadoww wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021Ah ok, I haven’t seen those types of toxic post yet. I’m a newish Reason standalone users about start experimenting with Mimic in r12 .PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021
I imagine he refers to some users who appear normal and suddenly turn into phallus-like people when he said that?
I don't know, anyways, I don't think I've seen you before, what kind of user are you?
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I could have easily used “cancer” or “mentally unstable”. At what point is anyone not offended by everything? The point is, we have some newer accounts who have been banned before that are now skirting the rules and - as much as they can often contribute to this community - turn on a dime. But I digress, didn’t mean to take this thread off topic. Also, welcome to Reasontalk. Stick around - most members are good people.Shadoww wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021Yes, I know they did use ‘quotes’. But the discussion was about how members are supposedly being toxic. I just think it’s best to keep name calling out of a forum especially if you trying to keep healthy debate from descending into a argumentPhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021They did use quotes. Is there a need to make a deal about that? Being a mod is not a job or anything, they are just like the rest of the users.
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I wasn’t personally offended. But I do think there seems to be a lot of paranoia from moderators about new users joining the forum. You can’t be sure they are not genuine just the same as you can presume they are mentally ill. Do the moderators hold a permanent role here or does it work like a committee where ever 6 month a different member is appointed the role? If not, maybe this could help? More democratic tooEnochLight wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021I could have easily used “cancer” or “mentally unstable”. At what point is anyone not offended by everything? The point is, we have some newer accounts who have been banned before that are now skirting the rules and - as much as they can often contribute to this community - turn on a dime. But I digress, didn’t mean to take this thread off topic. Also, welcome to Reasontalk. Stick around - most members are good people.
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If you saw the sheer volume of spam we have to deal with on a regular basis (all of it has to be approved/declined and weeded out manually), and the tenacity of most of the trolls we’ve banned recreating new accounts, you’d understand why most mods - in any forum - maintain a certain level of paranoia.Shadoww wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021I wasn’t personally offended. But I do think there seems to be a lot of paranoia from moderators about new users joining the forum. You can’t be sure they are not genuine just the same as you can presume they are mentally ill. Do the moderators hold a permanent role here or does it work like a committee where ever 6 month a different member is appointed the role? If not, maybe this could help? More democratic too
That said, let’s get this thread back on topic - Mimic FTW!
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We beg our most active and fair-minded forum members to join the mod team. Most forum members turn us down. I think Enochlight joined us after our third or fourth attempt? Right?
Our team is a decent size with fluctuations in availability. We have a Slack channel in which we meet to discuss any issues that need moderating. Other than that, it is dealing with tons of spam and approving new members.
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TY Both, Guys!
PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021Yes you can do that and you can set it so it is not bound by slices either, like the person you are responding to wants (because slices are set by transients) so it can totally be random both ways.djadalaide wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021
I was reading the manual and found something interesting, in single playback mode it can snap to slice, in combination with that you can set randomize start position - i've not tried it myself yet but i think it is possible.
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Having problems sample looping in Advanced Stretch mode. There is a small gap with each loop. This does not happen in tape mode and Loop knob is set to full.
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Tape mode has a crossfade. Maybe that is why?Tech-dance wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021Having problems sample looping in Advanced Stretch mode. There is a small gap with each loop. This does not happen in tape mode and Loop knob is set to full.
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I posted a really detailed reply to this but it seems to have not made it up unfortunately. I can't really be bothered typing it all up again so, never mindEnochLight wrote: ↑12 Sep 2021Serious question: how so? I’ve seen a few people here post this place has become toxic, yet no one has dedcribed how.
Also, dead? Really?
Anyway, I've since had a reply back from Reason Studios explaining their rationale for Mimic being included in Reason 12 only and not being made available as a standalone RE in the shop as well. It turns out that a new RE SDK is in the works, supporting REX samples amongst other additions, and Mimic will be upgraded to support this in due course. As such, it made no sense releasing it standalone to begin with (despite its current compatibility with Reason 11) as I guess pretty soon the RE code itself won't be compatible with anything other than R12, as rack devices built with the new SDK will only work in Reason 12.
That all makes sense to me now and is fair enough. Glad the company is maintaining this new approach the CEO spoke of when he posted "But today in 2021, the world has changed and we believe being transparent about what we are working on suits both us and the community better". I feel much better about it now.
Anyway I'm glad to draw a line under all this and hope all you guys who can run Mimic enjoy it! I'm going to have to make do with Serato Sample for now although it's no slouch and still very fun to work with.
Best wishes everyone
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That makes total sense, as it would break Mimic on 11 and everyone who bought it as a separate RE would rightfully rage. Cool that they are (finally) going to add REX support for the RE SDK. Wonder what else they'll have in store?rootwheel wrote: ↑13 Sep 2021Anyway, I've since had a reply back from Reason Studios explaining their rationale for Mimic being included in Reason 12 only and not being made available as a standalone RE in the shop as well. It turns out that a new RE SDK is in the works, supporting REX samples amongst other additions, and Mimic will be upgraded to support this in due course. As such, it made no sense releasing it standalone to begin with (despite its current compatibility with Reason 11)
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Well, that was a possibility I was going to suggest. But it was too much speculation on my part.rootwheel wrote: ↑13 Sep 2021I posted a really detailed reply to this but it seems to have not made it up unfortunately. I can't really be bothered typing it all up again so, never mind
Anyway, I've since had a reply back from Reason Studios explaining their rationale for Mimic being included in Reason 12 only and not being made available as a standalone RE in the shop as well. It turns out that a new RE SDK is in the works, supporting REX samples amongst other additions, and Mimic will be upgraded to support this in due course. As such, it made no sense releasing it standalone to begin with (despite its current compatibility with Reason 11) as I guess pretty soon the RE code itself won't be compatible with anything other than R12, as rack devices built with the new SDK will only work in Reason 12.
That all makes sense to me now and is fair enough. Glad the company is maintaining this new approach the CEO spoke of when he posted "But today in 2021, the world has changed and we believe being transparent about what we are working on suits both us and the community better". I feel much better about it now.
Anyway I'm glad to draw a line under all this and hope all you guys who can run Mimic enjoy it! I'm going to have to make do with Serato Sample for now although it's no slouch and still very fun to work with.
Best wishes everyone
It goes to show how important transparency is. I'm sure you're not the only person who thought that.
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Sorry if this has been asked, but what does Mimic mimic?
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Mattias answered in the live stream that the name comes from a type of character in D&D.
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I wonder what this Rex support really means. It could mean that one can create an DrOctoREx RE but it could well be REs being able to load and save Rex files but it would really be wave only Reason doing the necesarry conversion. This would mean that the original slice marker info is lost when you load a Rex file into Mimic or any other RE.EnochLight wrote: ↑13 Sep 2021That makes total sense, as it would break Mimic on 11 and everyone who bought it as a separate RE would rightfully rage. Cool that they are (finally) going to add REX support for the RE SDK. Wonder what else they'll have in store?rootwheel wrote: ↑13 Sep 2021Anyway, I've since had a reply back from Reason Studios explaining their rationale for Mimic being included in Reason 12 only and not being made available as a standalone RE in the shop as well. It turns out that a new RE SDK is in the works, supporting REX samples amongst other additions, and Mimic will be upgraded to support this in due course. As such, it made no sense releasing it standalone to begin with (despite its current compatibility with Reason 11)
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I would imagine it would mean that we could just drag REX files into Mimic, just like we can in Reason's native samplers built pre-RE. Whether it respects slice markers is a good question, though. NNXT just maps out the slices among all the keys, I think? Can't remember.tiker01 wrote: ↑13 Sep 2021I wonder what this Rex support really means. It could mean that one can create an DrOctoREx RE but it could well be REs being able to load and save Rex files but it would really be wave only Reason doing the necessary conversion. This would mean that the original slice marker info is lost when you load a Rex file into Mimic or any other RE.
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