Reason 12 doesn't work with old video card (OpenGL old version)

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dasmode
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Post 04 Sep 2021

What are the new requirements for video cards?

Unfortunately, I am having problems working on an ATI Radeon HD 3870 video card.
Yes, it's an old card, but I don't play games. Reason 11 and other programs work without problems. But Reason 12 doesn't show the whole interface.

I'm afraid I can't afford the new modern video cards.

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Billy+
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Post 04 Sep 2021

I'm using it ok with an intel HD 4000 based laptop, maybe it's not the video card but something else?
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Post 04 Sep 2021

damn, that sucks. cards are super expensive these days. first thing to check would be that you have the most updated card drivers to see if that helps. if that doesn’t work, does it render properly if you use an integrated graphics output, instead of the card? hopefully it’s a bug with Reason 12 that will get patched.
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dasmode
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Post 04 Sep 2021

guitfnky wrote:
04 Sep 2021
damn, that sucks. cards are super expensive these days. first thing to check would be that you have the most updated card drivers to see if that helps. if that doesn’t work, does it render properly if you use an integrated graphics output, instead of the card? hopefully it’s a bug with Reason 12 that will get patched.
I tormented for two days, figuring out the reason, and realized that it was a video card.

If I remove the video card driver then Reason 12 works. But this blurry image is 1024 * 768 instead of 1920 * 1080.

noATI.png

Unfortunately, this is a regular desktop computer and will not work without a video card.

The driver is the latest, it is installed automatically. I have tried older versions of the driver, the same situation. Windows 10 is reinstalled, clean and updated to the latest version.

So I think the old video cards cannot work with Reason 12.
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dasmode
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Post 04 Sep 2021

I found a solution. I assumed it might have something to do with OpenGL.
ATI Radeon HD 3870 video card drivers were last updated in 2015. It is impossible to install new drivers, I tried it.

I downloaded the new Non-WHQL-Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-2020-21.5.2-Win10-64Bit-May17.exe drivers and unpacked via 7-zip.
I found two dlls that may be related to OpenGL:

atio6axx.dll
atioglxx.dll

OpenGL.png

Then I copied it to the С:\Windows\System32

Reason 12 now works fine, fonts and other elements are now displayed.

work.png
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robotgard
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Post 08 Sep 2021

I have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti card.
Also a problem with OpenGL. Incorrect scaling.

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Buttons do not work.

zoom2.gif
Recent drivers have been released in 2018.

I have our two files that affect OpenGL: nvoglv32.dll and nvoglv64.dll.

I found two workarounds:

1. Delete from system folder

C:\Windows\System32\nvoglv64.dll
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\nvoglv32.dll

2. Install the latest official drivers, in which to replace similar dlls from the current drivers of another card.
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Loque
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Post 08 Sep 2021

Pretty brave to exchange DLLs. Good that it works. Maybe this can help others too.
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CaptainBlack
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Post 09 Sep 2021

guitfnky wrote:
04 Sep 2021
damn, that sucks. cards are super expensive these days.
Only if you want a top of the range gaming card. You can buy a very useable new card for well below 100.

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guitfnky
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Post 09 Sep 2021

CaptainBlack wrote:
09 Sep 2021
guitfnky wrote:
04 Sep 2021
damn, that sucks. cards are super expensive these days.
Only if you want a top of the range gaming card. You can buy a very useable new card for well below 100.
maybe doesn’t impact low-end cards, but it’s still a problem for even mid-tier. I had to replace my GPU earlier this year and got a bargain bin 1660 Super for $370. a month or two later the same card was selling for $600. it’s only down to $550 now at Best Buy, where I bought it.
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robotgard
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Post 14 Oct 2021

I created Reason Beta issue # 104024 about OpenGL.
I spent two evenings reinstalling Windows and provided all the information in the ticket.

But in the end, they thanked me and my ticket was closed. The problem still exists.
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Post 14 Oct 2021

robotgard wrote:
14 Oct 2021
I created Reason Beta issue # 104024 about OpenGL.
I spent two evenings reinstalling Windows and provided all the information in the ticket.

But in the end, they thanked me and my ticket was closed. The problem still exists.
Sounds like Loui from RS support misunderstood your comment. You should reply to the ticket and state that the problem is not solved.
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