Re: High resolution Reason is here!
Posted: 15 Jul 2021
No, because you're not making any sense.helmutson wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021... naa, I mean it takes time before the hires is loaded, a lot time under some circumstances ... but then every RE is hires, the big mixer too, but all the other stuff still looks terrible. Wait, not in 100% zoom factor, then it is like it was in R11, like you're not using R12 , but only after that loading time ... it's complicated - I hope you'll understand
OK, fine ... you got itfullforce wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021No, because you're not making any sense.helmutson wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021
... naa, I mean it takes time before the hires is loaded, a lot time under some circumstances ... but then every RE is hires, the big mixer too, but all the other stuff still looks terrible. Wait, not in 100% zoom factor, then it is like it was in R11, like you're not using R12 , but only after that loading time ... it's complicated - I hope you'll understand
Reason is now auto-scaling devices based on your resolution and DPI settings. VST plugins don't do that. It also has to load a high enough resolution version of each device to look good when zoomed in as high as 200% on a 4k display. Other than giving people the option to switch to a legacy display mode with the old low-rez devices, I'm not sure what they can do for people who don't want to deal with the load times.
... I'm not using VST plugins, I was talking about the internal plugins of Logic in comparisation of the RRP for example. Whatever, I have no clue what is going on technically , all what I want is that it works as before and this loading time is a no-go for me ... I'm so sorry for that, because Reason has a very special place in my musical life ...Carpainter wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021Reason is now auto-scaling devices based on your resolution and DPI settings. VST plugins don't do that. It also has to load a high enough resolution version of each device to look good when zoomed in as high as 200% on a 4k display. Other than giving people the option to switch to a legacy display mode with the old low-rez devices, I'm not sure what they can do for people who don't want to deal with the load times.
It should be freaking realtime zoom! How hard can it be! This is a freaking kludge job!lowtom wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021RS need to rethink their aproach as for 100% zoom there should be no loading time present. Graphic assets for 100% zoom should be build in, like default ones in previous versions, maybe preloaded or cached during istallation. Only zooming above or below 100% should trigger reloading and caching of new graphic assets.
With respect, and you're not incorrect, as such, but that sure sounds dangerously close to a revisionism of the types of requests I've seen over the years, in order to attempt to justify to yourself the way it's been implemented now, when there's a very strong argument that's not what a majority of people have wanted the past six years at least, even just in a cursory search of this very forum. Now, I'm not party to whatever user stats and direct emails RS have, of course. But I can be pretty sure of one thing.selig wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021These are two different features, rack/device zooming and application zoom. Application zooming was done first (has been requested for YEARS!), hopefully device zooming will be relatively quick to follow.Faastwalker wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021In any case, still feel like the Hi-Res function is a bit on the clunky side. And would have loved to have it for each element of Reason as opposed to the whole thing. Again, maybe my monitor?!
So, to be clear Matt - I'll be the first to say that the way hi-res assets are being handled in Reason 12 (currently) could absolutely be improved. Some hi-res areas missing on the transport are just some (among others), and not having an actual way to zoom into things on a per-device basis is a 100% let down, especially for those of us who prefer to work in Reason DAW standalone. In RRP, things seem to work a lot better, IMHO, at least since it's just "the rack".JiggeryPokery wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021And at that point, the marketing should read "Reason HD: It's like staring at a Vaseline-smeared monitor through cataracts."
It looks like R12 uses a not-so-good method of interpolation to stretch the digital display. There will be costs and benefits for each method.
Hopefully, but I’m not so sure. Again, this is of no concern to people using Reason as a plug-in and sadly this seems to be the focus of Reason now. More and more the Reason DAW is feeling left out in the cold. To be frank Application Zoom at anything above (for me) 120% looks ridiculous! It’s an accessibility feature. A god send to the visually impaired, if all the elements get around to updating. It almost seems impractical, I’m sure, to everyone else.selig wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021These are two different features, rack/device zooming and application zoom. Application zooming was done first (has been requested for YEARS!), hopefully device zooming will be relatively quick to follow.Faastwalker wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021In any case, still feel like the Hi-Res function is a bit on the clunky side. And would have loved to have it for each element of Reason as opposed to the whole thing. Again, maybe my monitor?!
hey yes i did - thanks thoStephenHutchinson wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021Did you remember to go into the Reason+ Companion app and "Upgrade Installed Devices to Hi-Res" under Reason+ Rack Extensions as well as under "Your other licenced Rack Extensions" ?VariableX wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021ok i bought the 3 dollar 3 month ( only paid a dollar so far)
I have no intension of paying for Reason+ proper and am awaiting my 12 upgrade as part of the upgrading to Reason 11 deal.
I was pumped to try it hires early and $3 seemed like a bargain. I wanted to run at 140% but even hours later devices are blurred, the transport play stop and other buttons are blurred .... changed to 120% hours later blurred, so back to 100% now im not on a high res screen think its 1900 by 1080 or something so maybe I shouldn't be paying with the zoom?
I also wanted to try a few devices and check the sound packs...
Friktion is awesome ( bit blurry haha ) but it really sounds good to me, im not one for buying synths because i have so many but you know if it was on super sale i might bite.
The sound packs seem a bit meh to me too, ive only tried a couple i suppose, but they are like 10 sounds each and i quickly removed the ones i installed.. i guess if you wanna hear sounds from a style and get inspired they are useful..but i have so many presets and real sound packs from loopmasters i doubt i'd be using them unless i got interested in a completely different genre.
I am looking forward to the proper upgrade...but probably should have waited..
From memory i think the download was 4gb but included the standard sound librarys, maybe it should give you the option to exclude these and include the hires images?
so all up - disappointing, but, still pumped and caint wait for perpetual R12 to drop!
FYI it is not automatic (at least not in my case). You have to select it by hand. Like you need to go into options and then you have to select zoom.Carpainter wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021Reason is now auto-scaling devices based on your resolution and DPI settings. VST plugins don't do that. It also has to load a high enough resolution version of each device to look good when zoomed in as high as 200% on a 4k display. Other than giving people the option to switch to a legacy display mode with the old low-rez devices, I'm not sure what they can do for people who don't want to deal with the load times.