12.2.4 Released
Fixed a bug where the browser didn't refresh with updated content, e.g. an exported song and saved patch
Slight improvements to display performance in Rack Extensions
Minor improvements to ReFill handling
Reason no longer rescans already scanned Rack Extensions at startup
Minor improvements to processor thread handling
Windows specific fixes:
- Auto-scale implementation for VSTs in Reason standalone
- Improved scrolling in the Rack
- Fixed an issue when starting Reason on early versions of Windows 10
- Fixed a bug that would prevent opening files on external drives
https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason ... ease-notes
Slight improvements to display performance in Rack Extensions
Minor improvements to ReFill handling
Reason no longer rescans already scanned Rack Extensions at startup
Minor improvements to processor thread handling
Windows specific fixes:
- Auto-scale implementation for VSTs in Reason standalone
- Improved scrolling in the Rack
- Fixed an issue when starting Reason on early versions of Windows 10
- Fixed a bug that would prevent opening files on external drives
https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason ... ease-notes
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- crimsonwarlock
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Wooot, this fixes the 'external drive' issue on windows so now I can finally update beyond 12.2 on my home install.
Rack extensions seem to load faster as well.
Rack extensions seem to load faster as well.
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The browser on my end is working as it should be now no more crashing when trying to open folders. Large sample folders open at decent speed now. Start up on my PC has improved now that Reason doesn't rescan vst's.
Nope.
Not a 80% Res anyway.
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I have to see if some vsts are still laggy, serato sample's gui stutters when reason's sequencer is playing but runs smooth when it isn't playing.
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I can't even update from 12.2.3! lmao
*EDIT: eh, I was able to eventually get 12.2.3 to load so I could update. Had to choose to not use any Rack Extensions, and it eventually loaded.
*EDIT: eh, I was able to eventually get 12.2.3 to load so I could update. Had to choose to not use any Rack Extensions, and it eventually loaded.
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I wonder how can I check the new vst scaling thingy? I would love to be able to make some plugins tiny so they don't take the whole screen.
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It doesn't make VST windows scalable. It switches the VST host window between using Reason internal scaling and Windows desktop scaling.PhillipOrdonez wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022I wonder how can I check the new vst scaling thingy? I would love to be able to make some plugins tiny so they don't take the whole screen.
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They KINDA fixed the scaling issue but not really. First, it requires a restart each time to open a vst, realize it is too small and then go to switch it to auto-scale, which just makes them look blurry. The blurry part I get, not so simple. But the implementation seems rather buried and unfriendly. Anyways I'll take it but it is ghetto. VSTs looked fine before they introduced the RS hires version.
Reason icons in browser are still low res. not a huge issue.
Someone in another thread said "why are RS responsible for making sure the VST looks ok in RS?" I don't really get that question though. I mean why make sure sound comes out? It's a third party sound device!! lol Point I am making is that is reason wants to support VST, even if the vst itself doesn't scale, Reason before the hi def version displayed VSTs just fine, which means something RS did is causing this issue. So fix it better, wills ya? For now, I will work with this though.
Reason icons in browser are still low res. not a huge issue.
Someone in another thread said "why are RS responsible for making sure the VST looks ok in RS?" I don't really get that question though. I mean why make sure sound comes out? It's a third party sound device!! lol Point I am making is that is reason wants to support VST, even if the vst itself doesn't scale, Reason before the hi def version displayed VSTs just fine, which means something RS did is causing this issue. So fix it better, wills ya? For now, I will work with this though.
I'm on mac, so I can't test this. VSTs for us never had the scaling issue, so no fix needed. Can you post pictures of what you are seeing that is blurry?earwig83 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022They KINDA fixed the scaling issue but not really. First, it requires a restart each time to open a vst, realize it is too small and then go to switch it to auto-scale, which just makes them look blurry. The blurry part I get, not so simple. But the implementation seems rather buried and unfriendly. Anyways I'll take it but it is ghetto. VSTs looked fine before they introduced the RS hires version.
Reason icons in browser are still low res. not a huge issue.
Someone in another thread said "why are RS responsible for making sure the VST looks ok in RS?" I don't really get that question though. I mean why make sure sound comes out? It's a third party sound device!! lol Point I am making is that is reason wants to support VST, even if the vst itself doesn't scale, Reason before the hi def version displayed VSTs just fine, which means something RS did is causing this issue. So fix it better, wills ya? For now, I will work with this though.
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They are, unfortunately.freshkidblaze wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022I have to see if some vsts are still laggy, serato sample's gui stutters when reason's sequencer is playing but runs smooth when it isn't playing.
I think the main focus of RS at the moment as to address the usability of their product.
IMO HiRes was only dealt with because of the RRP, and some users unable to actually use the vst given it's size. Similarly, the main highlight of this 12.2.4 update is auto scale of VST within Reason Standalone - as the autoscalling previously made some vst's unusable in size.
There's probably more ground to cover with respect to performance, before they start addressing and tidying up UI defects.
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The autoscale feature is a step in the right direction, but feels like a tedious workaround rather than an actual solution. I have probably hundreds of VSTs. Do I really need to manually toggle autoscale on each one? Very few of them work fine as is (on a 4k 43 inch screen), so I would really like to be able to set autoscale on by default for all, then disable in the few cases where the VST size is not an issue. Even giving us checkboxes and an "Apply" button would be better than the current approach where I have to double click each VST and check No to Yes. I will have carpal tunnel by the time I finish enabling it for all the VSTs that need it (i.e., 97% of the ones I have).
Why would you need it for so many plugins? I only have to enable autoscaling for a small minority of my VSTs that do not have their own scaling option.plasticfractal wrote: ↑27 Jan 2022The autoscale feature is a step in the right direction, but feels like a tedious workaround rather than an actual solution. I have probably hundreds of VSTs. Do I really need to manually toggle autoscale on each one? Very few of them work fine as is (on a 4k 43 inch screen), so I would really like to be able to set autoscale on by default for all, then disable in the few cases where the VST size is not an issue. Even giving us checkboxes and an "Apply" button would be better than the current approach where I have to double click each VST and check No to Yes. I will have carpal tunnel by the time I finish enabling it for all the VSTs that need it (i.e., 97% of the ones I have).
Agree with your point though that the GUI for enabling auto-scaling is terrible at the moment.
I'm assuming that Reason Studios are using a Jenkins build server by that file path (NewJenkinsSlave), but they should really stop using the master/slave nomenclature at this point.EnochLight wrote: ↑26 Jan 2022I can't even update from 12.2.3! lmao
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*EDIT: eh, I was able to eventually get 12.2.3 to load so I could update. Had to choose to not use any Rack Extensions, and it eventually loaded.
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