Ekssperimental Sounds: TAPEFUNK M10 RE released

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Post 07 Jun 2021

epoch wrote:
06 Jun 2021
It's OK, you can call me cynical too but I personally don't think the Ekss REs are all that. They seem to look a lot, lot better than they actually sound. The Ekss stuff is the other way round in some respects - absolutely world class graphics and visual design but the sounds just don't do it for me in any of the REs I've tried
Got to ask...what ones have you tried? Interested to hear which of his devices you dont think sound good. Have you tried Industrializer or Filter Chain for example? Or the Dub Soundsystem one?. Personally I place Ekss up there as one of the higher quality developers. I’m not going to name the RE heroes but we know who they are right? You are right about his GUIs though. Awesome.
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Post 08 Jun 2021

Imulse Responses or not. I have only tried spring reverb and it gave a sound I was after. Will have to try the other stuff. Love to see the effects in the shop in a time where RE shop is at a lower point.
But it is amazing how one can use RE in RRP in other DAWs also.

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Post 08 Jun 2021

MrFigg wrote:
07 Jun 2021
epoch wrote:
06 Jun 2021
It's OK, you can call me cynical too but I personally don't think the Ekss REs are all that. They seem to look a lot, lot better than they actually sound. The Ekss stuff is the other way round in some respects - absolutely world class graphics and visual design but the sounds just don't do it for me in any of the REs I've tried
Got to ask...what ones have you tried? Interested to hear which of his devices you dont think sound good. Have you tried Industrializer or Filter Chain for example? Or the Dub Soundsystem one?. Personally I place Ekss up there as one of the higher quality developers. I’m not going to name the RE heroes but we know who they are right? You are right about his GUIs though. Awesome.
I've trialed all of them. I found the FX pretty generic and the instruments un-inspiring. The graphics are to die for though.

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Post 08 Jun 2021

epoch wrote:
08 Jun 2021
MrFigg wrote:
07 Jun 2021


Got to ask...what ones have you tried? Interested to hear which of his devices you dont think sound good. Have you tried Industrializer or Filter Chain for example? Or the Dub Soundsystem one?. Personally I place Ekss up there as one of the higher quality developers. I’m not going to name the RE heroes but we know who they are right? You are right about his GUIs though. Awesome.
I've trialed all of them. I found the FX pretty generic and the instruments un-inspiring. The graphics are to die for though.
Interesting to read your thoughts. I think we can all agree that Ekss GUI is to die for; world-class graphics, no doubt. I haven't tried many Ekss REs, so I can't really chime in for most of them. I have tried 4, and of those 4, I only own 3.

I have ES400 (FM synth) and have enjoyed it. But to be honest, since Algoritm has been in my rack, I reach for that 100% of the time when I want an FM synth. Algo pretty much blows every FM synth away, and I don't see changing any time soon. The "new" factor has well worn off and I'm still loving Algo.

I have the Ekss spring reverb that was initially offered for free. It sounds pretty good but it's sucks up a lot of DSP. But I do use it when I am wanting to introduce some King Tubby type sounds.

I just bought Ekss Industrializer during the May Madness sale and am still blown away by this effect device. I love it so much! I knew I was going to buy it after trying it for about 5 minutes. It's wonderful and I can't speak too highly about it. I can't believe you don't like this device.

I have no idea about the rest of the Ekss product line, other than saying they look fantastic. I wish RS would hire Erik to do all their GUI.
Yonatan wrote:
08 Jun 2021
Imulse Responses or not. I have only tried spring reverb and it gave a sound I was after. Will have to try the other stuff. Love to see the effects in the shop in a time where RE shop is at a lower point.
But it is amazing how one can use RE in RRP in other DAWs also.
I really like that spring reverb. Too bad it sucks up the DSP, but whatever. It sounds good and delivers when you are looking for that certain King Tubby type sound. So you only trialed it? Did you not pick it up when it was offered for free? That was version 1, anyway. I think version 2 has some extra stuff (including a price tag). I got version 1 when it was free for a week or two. :)

I have to imagine that the RRP has helped RE sales a bit. Some of the REs in the shop are so good, even when compared to the VSTs on the market. And I know a lot of other DAW users were excited to be able to finally use some REs (and Reason devices, such as Thor). And I agree, it is nice to see Ekss pumping out REs during a time when RE development seems to have hit a lull. A handful of developers seem to be keeping active, and I appreciate that.
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Post 08 Jun 2021

First! - really nice to hear you guys are liking the sound!

To answer some of the critique;

GUI is like it is because I wanted it to resemble the original unit (like MrFigg pointed out). I like to keep my RE's as close to "real" as possible, much because I really like the hardware rack analogy that is the core of Reason.

Regards to the "only IR and some hiss" - it's actually more happening 'behind the scenes' - I updated the product page today with some more details (those were only found in the info sheet earlier).

And about the price being a bit on the high side, well it's many hours of work behind every RE and since I did this one with Past to Future we're also sharing the earnings. There are plans on an 1.1 update with some added controls - and the updates will be free. And there will always be sales coming up, like BF and MM ;)
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Post 08 Jun 2021

challism wrote:
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I really like that spring reverb. Too bad it sucks up the DSP, but whatever. It sounds good and delivers when you are looking for that certain King Tubby type sound.

I'll investigate if a "quality switch" could be done (and still sound ok) to save some power!

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Post 08 Jun 2021

ekss wrote:
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challism wrote:
08 Jun 2021
I really like that spring reverb. Too bad it sucks up the DSP, but whatever. It sounds good and delivers when you are looking for that certain King Tubby type sound.

I'll investigate if a "quality switch" could be done (and still sound ok) to save some power!
That would be awesome. I hope I didn't come across as complaining. Only a fool would complain about a free RE, right? Thanks again for the gift! I think it sounds good.
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Post 08 Jun 2021

challism wrote:
08 Jun 2021
ekss wrote:
08 Jun 2021

I'll investigate if a "quality switch" could be done (and still sound ok) to save some power!
That would be awesome. I hope I didn't come across as complaining. Only a fool would complain about a free RE, right? Thanks again for the gift! I think it sounds good.
Not at all!
It might take some time thou, many projects at the moment and trying to finish them all first :-)

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Post 08 Jun 2021

challism wrote:
08 Jun 2021
ekss wrote:
08 Jun 2021



I'll investigate if a "quality switch" could be done (and still sound ok) to save some power!
That would be awesome. I hope I didn't come across as complaining. Only a fool would complain about a free RE, right? Thanks again for the gift! I think it sounds good.
Yes, I did grab it but also bought the update.
Have not used it on a whole big mix yet so have not felt the cpu load. If a lower option switch would be possible, that would be a great thing.
Sounds interesting that more RE are on its way. RE lives on! I once was a bit worried that RE as idea would one day fade out, but now when the Rack can be a plugin and vst are allowed in the DAW,
it is quite exciting times. Any RE could be used in other DAWs. It is extraordinary. But I love using Reason standalone, but the freedom that has developed is a really nice thing. And I also really hope that the RE devs will benefit soon enough from the spread of RRP.

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