PX7 - Removed from Shop?

[RobBarnett]

Can anyone still see PX7 in the shop or Rewards section?

[Loque]

No, its not available anymore.

[HeavyViper]

Nope! It's nowhere to be seen. Just noticed someone elsewhere say it was missing from their account product list, too. I just checked myself, and lo-and-behold:

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If it's gone for good, that's a real shame. It was one of the first REs I ever bought, and it's in my default template to this day! Totally my go-to for a nice, clean, classic FM sound with in-depth controls. The converted 200K patch collection for it is an incredible resource, too.

Perhaps it wasn't selling? Even so, seems odd to just take it down without a word, especially since they made such a big deal out of the A-List stuff getting nuked. Something bigger and better on the way, maybe...?

[Loque]

Nope! It's nowhere to be seen. Just noticed someone elsewhere say it was missing from their account product list, too. I just checked myself, and lo-and-behold:

2021-01-15 19_55_28-Products _ Reason Studios - Brave.png

If it's gone for good, that's a real shame. It was one of the first REs I ever bought, and it's in my default template to this day! Totally my go-to for a nice, clean, classic FM sound with in-depth controls. The converted 200K patch collection for it is an incredible resource, too.

Perhaps it wasn't selling? Even so, seems odd to just take it down without a word, especially since they made such a big deal out of the A-List stuff getting nuked. Something bigger and better on the way, maybe...?

Hopefully a new version with "normal" ADSR curves for dummys like me

[dasmode]

[RoryM0]

PX7 is awesome. I hope they plan to add this to Reason 12 (standard or suite) so it isn't lost.

[deigm]

oh damn ozone is gone? that was on my buy list

[antic604]

The plot thickes.

Reason v12 announcement imminent (on 25th)!?

[RoryM0]

The plot thickes.

Reason v12 announcement imminent (on 25th)!?

NAMM is 18-22 January, perhaps something lined up for that week is possible...? I won't hold my breath though, because if I do I'll die.

[MrFigg]

oh damn ozone is gone? that was on my buy list

Probably just as well getting Kuassa Kratos2.

[Loque]

oh damn ozone is gone? that was on my buy list

tbh, than better get Ozone Elements for free, which came at least a few times in the last year.

[seqoi]

Oh man..I wanted Ozone Maximizer.

My guess - PX7 will be included in R12 + some kind of new maximizer..

[antic604]

My guess - PX7 will be included in R12 + some kind of new maximizer..

Yes, that sounds very plausible.

[antic604]

The plot thickes.

Reason v12 announcement imminent (on 25th)!?

NAMM is 18-22 January, perhaps something lined up for that week is possible...? I won't hold my breath though, because if I do I'll die.

During the time I've been using Reason I don't think I ever saw them present at NAMM.

[RoryM0]

NAMM is 18-22 January, perhaps something lined up for that week is possible...? I won't hold my breath though, because if I do I'll die.

During the time I've been using Reason I don't think I ever saw them present at NAMM.

Fair enough. But they don't have to be present to use that week for an announcement while the industry is focused on shiny new music things.

[PhillipOrdonez]

My guess - PX7 will be included in R12 + some kind of new maximizer..

Yes, that sounds very plausible.

Doubt It. They've never removed a rack extension they've included in a new version. They still sell all included Res separately, why did they remove this one? One of the few that did not get included in suite. And then ozone? Hmmm

[antic604]

Yes, that sounds very plausible.

Doubt It. They've never removed a rack extension they've included in a new version. They still sell all included Res separately, why did they remove this one? One of the few that did not get included in suite. And then ozone? Hmmm

Maybe they're learning from their mistakes? Hide the product from the store a month before including it in Standard / Suite*, so that people that would've bought it aren't pissed off. They can easily put it back after release, for those that haven't upgraded. Everyone else who already have it does have access regardless whether it's listed or not.

* I'm betting it's getting into Standard, because otherwise Friktion & Pattern Mutator would've vanished too

[RoryM0]

Yes, that sounds very plausible.

Doubt It. They've never removed a rack extension they've included in a new version. They still sell all included Res separately, why did they remove this one? One of the few that did not get included in suite. And then ozone? Hmmm

Hmmm indeed. Maybe an upgrade then? Did they remove Parsec prior to Parsec 2 being released or did it just turn into Parsec 2 overnight?

[RoryM0]

Maybe they're learning from their mistakes? Hide the product from the store a month before including it in Standard / Suite*, so that people that would've bought it aren't pissed off. They can easily put it back after release, for those that haven't upgraded. Everyone else who already have it does have access regardless whether it's listed or not.

* I'm betting it's getting into Standard, because otherwise Friktion & Pattern Mutator would've vanished too

Yeah this could be it.

[bigguy1]

It might also be connected to the upcoming HiRes GUI Update. Maybe they don't want or cannot port the disappearing devices.

[antic604]

During the time I've been using Reason I don't think I ever saw them present at NAMM.

Fair enough. But they don't have to be present to use that week for an announcement while the industry is focused on shiny new music things.

The downside of announcing in that period is that everyone have a budget - suddenly you get 10 interesting shiny toys announced, but you can only afford two, so you need to choose

And I really doubt coverage will be any different during NAMM and in some other week, especially since there's no physical NAMM this year. New Reason release will grab attention regardless of when it happens.



The only doubt I have about v12 coming very soon is frankly that Mattias - Reason's product lead/owner - has been on vacations for what seems like well over a month, buying & playing PS4 & Switch games, soldering modulars, taking care of a hairless cat... I mean they surely wouldn't release it without him?

[antic604]

It might also be connected to the upcoming HiRes GUI Update. Maybe they don't want or cannot port the disappearing devices.

If a device is in RE format (which is the case for Ozone or Air Raid stuff, not sure about PX7) then from the 1st days of RE it was obligatory for the devs to provide high-res assets (and 3D mesh, up to some point in time), so from what I understand RE devs don't need to do anything. The RE format was designed for this from the start.

[bigguy1]

It might also be connected to the upcoming HiRes GUI Update. Maybe they don't want or cannot port the disappearing devices.

If a device is in RE format (which is the case for Ozone or Air Raid stuff, not sure about PX7) then from the 1st days of RE it was obligatory for the devs to provide high-res assets (and 3D mesh, up to some point in time), so from what I understand RE devs don't need to do anything. The RE format was designed for this from the start.

I see. Then this maybe is not connected at all. Let's hope that this part of technical RE design keeps its promise
But I am still lacking any real good reason, why a RE should be discontinued if the vendor doesn't plan a successor. Let's see what the future brings...

[RoryM0]

Fair enough. But they don't have to be present to use that week for an announcement while the industry is focused on shiny new music things.

The downside of announcing in that period is that everyone have a budget - suddenly you get 10 interesting shiny toys announced, but you can only afford two, so you need to choose

And I really doubt coverage will be any different during NAMM and in some other week, especially since there's no physical NAMM this year. New Reason release will grab attention regardless of when it happens.



The only doubt I have about v12 coming very soon is frankly that Mattias - Reason's product lead/owner - has been on vacations for what seems like well over a month, buying & playing PS4 & Switch games, soldering modulars, taking care of a hairless cat... I mean they surely wouldn't release it without him?

Yes this is true, I'm also somewhat skeptical that we will be getting R12 this early in 2021. However I have upgrade money burning a hole in my pocket so I'm just going to be slathering all over the forum until it drops .

[EdGrip]

I too am skeptical, but will be quietly pleased to be proved wrong. PX7 was, I think, my first RE synth purchase. It's a good 'un, and I can't think of a reason they'd pull it from the shop *other* than the theories in this thread.
Unless maybe VST in Reason, + Dexed, meant it wasn't selling very much. But selling some is better than selling none, so I doubt it's that.