Offline authorization will be discontinued for R11 and earlier - This is serious

[Loque]

are you saying that R12 has no bugs?

Are you saying there is a bug that is stopping you from making music in Reason? Jesus Christ Billy - Reason is currently in a far better state than Ableton Live is currently- I just had Live randomly crash on me for no apparent reason.

I am not sure he is using R12 or has used since it was released...

[sQeetz]

are you saying that R12 has no bugs?

Are you saying there is a bug that is stopping you from making music in Reason? Jesus Christ Billy - Reason is currently in a far better state than Ableton Live is currently- I just had Live randomly crash on me for no apparent reason.

I actually don't use Reason. Like, at all.. Just as a plugin in Live and it is rock solid. No crash whatsoever for however long I can remember. Might be system specific? I run Live+RRP on a MacBook Pro M1 and a Mac mini M2 Pro.

[anDre]

Are you saying there is a bug that is stopping you from making music in Reason?

I would say so.

This blurry fonts bug is keeping me from upgrading to Reason 12.

How anyone affected by this bug could look at this for hours is beyond me.
It makes you sick, doesn't it?

[crimsonwarlock]

This blurry fonts bug is keeping me from upgrading to Reason 12.

How anyone affected by this bug could look at this for hours is beyond me.
It makes you sick, doesn't it?

Can you point out where fonts are blurry? I run R12 at 140% zoom on hi-res screens (2K and 4K), but scaling down to 100% everything looks pretty sharp to me. Tiny, but definitely sharp.

The only difference I see immediately is that some residual graphics that don't scale correctly (like the hide/show section buttons in the SSL mixer) look fine at 100%

Maybe it's system/OS specific, I'm on Win10.

[anDre]

This blurry fonts bug is keeping me from upgrading to Reason 12.

How anyone affected by this bug could look at this for hours is beyond me.
It makes you sick, doesn't it?

Can you point out where fonts are blurry?

Yes, it's all in this thread... viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7531464&start=175

I think i read somewhere that Reason 12 has these problems mainly with Nvidia graphics cards. I have one and maybe that's causing it? I don't know if that's true and unfortunately i can't remember where i read it. I'm probably writing nonsense right now.

[crimsonwarlock]

Can you point out where fonts are blurry?

Yes, it's all in this thread... viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7531464&start=175

I think i read somewhere that Reason 12 has these problems mainly with Nvidia graphics cards. I have one and maybe that's causing it? I don't know if that's true and unfortunately i can't remember where i read it. I'm probably writing nonsense right now.

I posted in that thread also, even on the page you are linking. Fonts in the browser are the same in different zoom levels here, and I'm running an Nvidia GeForce card.

Looks like a configuration issue to me. Are the correct fonts installed? Windows has a strange way of using substitute fonts if the right ones are missing.

[anDre]

Yes, it's all in this thread... viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7531464&start=175

I think i read somewhere that Reason 12 has these problems mainly with Nvidia graphics cards. I have one and maybe that's causing it? I don't know if that's true and unfortunately i can't remember where i read it. I'm probably writing nonsense right now.

I posted in that thread also, even on the page you are linking. Fonts in the browser are the same in different zoom levels here, and I'm running an Nvidia GeForce card.

Looks like a configuration issue to me. Are the correct fonts installed? Windows has a strange way of using substitute fonts if the right ones are missing.

It's difficult to have a discussion if you don't read the posts carefully and/or mess up the posts. The other thread discusses two different fonts related issues and i suspect you mixed them up.

The screenshots in my post in the other thread not showing different zoom levels, there are showing R12 compared to R10. The other screenshots in this thread are not mine and don't show the issue i'm having, but the other fonts-related issue.

Reason 10 - no blurry fonts
Reason 11 - no blurry fonts
Reason 12 on 100% zoom - blurry fonts
Reason 12 on 200% zoom - no blurry fonts

I don't think this is a configuration issue or has to do with not correct installed fonts.
It's probably a bug.

[challism]

are you saying that R12 has no bugs?

to quote Reasons Studios - they want to make Reason 12 "the best it can be"

well I'm still waiting......

The question is not answered. What bugs are you referring?

Joey would be the first to tell you that every piece of software has bugs; I've seen him say that numerous times over the years. He's asking you to tell us about the specific bugs you are referring to. You like to make these wide sweeping and generic claims of bugs (which I doubt you really even experienced). But when you are pressed on the issue, you won't even attempt to back up these claims. I think you jumped on this popular bandwagon in the very early days of R12 and have failed to see that you are the only one left on that wagon. So please, Billy, explain to us w̶h̶y̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶E̶a̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶f̶l̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶o̶n̶ which bugs you are talking about.

I posted in that thread also, even on the page you are linking. Fonts in the browser are the same in different zoom levels here, and I'm running an Nvidia GeForce card.

Looks like a configuration issue to me. Are the correct fonts installed? Windows has a strange way of using substitute fonts if the right ones are missing.

It's difficult to have a discussion if you don't read the posts carefully and/or mess up the posts. The other thread discusses two different fonts related issues and I suspect you mixed them up.

The screenshots in my post in the other thread not showing different zoom levels, there are showing R12 compared to R10. The other screenshots in this thread are not showing the issue i have, they are showing the other fonts related issue.

Reason 10 - no blurry fonts
Reason 11 - no blurry fonts
Reason 12 on 100% zoom - blurry fonts
Reason 12 on 200% zoom - no blurry fonts

I don't think this is a configuration issue or has to do with not correct installed fonts.
It's probably a bug.

Could you guys please keep this thread on topic. This thread is clearly about Billy and his dislike for Reason Studios. If you want to discuss the blurriness of Reason 12's fonts, please do so on the other thread... And take Billy with you.

[crimsonwarlock]

Reason 10 - no blurry fonts
Reason 11 - no blurry fonts
Reason 12 on 100% zoom - blurry fonts
Reason 12 on 200% zoom - no blurry fonts

I have 11 suite still installed as well, won't be much longer here though.

However, here no blurry fonts in 11 suite, 12 zoom 100% or 12 zoom 140%.

Bugs tend to hit more than one user, so how many users have confirmed your problem?

And take Billy with you.

I seriously don't want Billy to go where I go

[DaveyG]

w̶h̶y̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶E̶a̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶f̶l̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶o̶n̶

I'd never really thought about these two blatantly obvious truths at the same time. I mean, if the earth is flat then the moon must also be flat, which means it is facing us. So trying to land there is never going to work, you'll just keep banging your head on it.

Also, I'm not a big fan of R12 and I have not upgraded to it but I'm know that all the significant bugs have now been sorted and the important roadmap stuff is also done. It took them far too long and releasing it in that state was unforgivable but they are pretty much where they need to be in terms of bug squashing.

Anyway, roll on R13, hopefully with something that lights my fire, baby.

[anDre]

However, here no blurry fonts in 11 suite

Yes, i don't have it in Reason 11 either, like i wrote.

To be honest i don't see any point in discussing this further with you as you obviously aren't reading my posts properly or you twisting them, maybe intentionally, i don't know but this leads to nothing and is no help at all.

Bugs tend to hit more than one user, so how many users have confirmed your problem?

I don't know how many have confirmed it as a problem or bug, not even i've opened a support ticket for it. I saw a few people have the same blurry fonts but you know some are not bothered by the problem or do not perceive it as such, when i first mentioned the sample editor bug here, it was the same. Funnily enough, when i was at the Superbooth, the bug could be seen on one of the RS laptops they were showing Object on.

Since the moderator has already warned us against posting more off-topic posts here, we should leave it at that.
To me it's probably a bug and for you it is configuration issue or whatever.

[crimsonwarlock]

To be honest i don't see any point in discussing this further with you as you obviously aren't reading my posts properly or you twisting them, maybe intentionally, i don't know but this leads to nothing and is no help at all.

Seriously? You say there is a bug, and said that I can't confirm it here. You react to my inclusion of R11, but conveniently don't react to me stating that I have no blurry fonts with R12 at 100% zoom. I also confirmed for you that I don't have this problem even though I'm running an Nvidia GeForce card.

...not even i've opened a support ticket for it.

So, you think it's a bug, but you won't submit a ticket for it

You are right, no need to discuss this further because, well... yeah

[anDre]

Seriously? You say there is a bug, and said that I can't confirm it here. You react to my inclusion of R11, but conveniently don't react to me stating that I have no blurry fonts with R12 at 100% zoom. I also confirmed for you that I don't have this problem even though I'm running an Nvidia GeForce card.

It's good for you that you don't have blurry fonts and good to know that your Nvidia card are not causing the problem.
Of course i don't react to that, that goes without saying, i'm only reacting to what i think you may have misunderstood.

Because you can't confirm it, it can't be a bug? Is this what you mean?

So, you think it's a bug, but you won't submit a ticket for it

Yes, not yet. Unbelievable i know.

[crimsonwarlock]

Because you can't confirm it, it can't be a bug? Is this what you mean?

Any idea how bugs are solved? Firstly, to solve a bug, it needs to be reproducible. Secondly, confirming a bug is NOT present on specific setups helps to narrow down the scope for a possible cause and subsequently a solution. And yes, the fewer users can confirm it, the higher the chance that it is a configuration issue. Mind you, a config issue can still mean it's a bug, but one that only hits very specific configs. Narrowing down helps.

Now, go submit that ticket

[challism]

w̶h̶y̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶E̶a̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶f̶l̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶w̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶o̶n̶

I'd never really thought about these two blatantly obvious truths at the same time. I mean, if the earth is flat then the moon must also be flat, which means it is facing us. So trying to land there is never going to work, you'll just keep banging your head on it.

You could also never get to the moon because you would crash into the dome. Duh!

... all the significant bugs have now been sorted and the important roadmap stuff is also done. It took them far too long and releasing it in that state was unforgivable but they are pretty much where they need to be in terms of bug squashing.

Agreed

Anyway, roll on R13, hopefully with something that lights my fire, baby.

I made this mashup for you Davey. You are inspirational.

[plaamook]

There may be a better thread for this but….
I’m trialing Objekt and I no longer need to log in every time I open Reason to do it.
So, yeah…things are changing. For better and maybe for worse. But changing.
Hold the line lads.

[RobBarnett]

I have sold my R12 licence but had to install Codemeter to authorize then de-authotrize both my computer and ignition key, before the licence transfer tick box appeared (then de-install Codemeter). If RS are trying to deprecate the use of Codemeter, this needs to be sorted and instructions on Licence Transfer need updating.

[ljekio]

It's good for you that you don't have blurry fonts and good to know that your Nvidia card are not causing the problem.
Of course i don't react to that, that goes without saying, i'm only reacting to what i think you may have misunderstood.

I have blurry fonts in 12 too.
Without Nvidia, only at intel integral video

[Loque]

It's good for you that you don't have blurry fonts and good to know that your Nvidia card are not causing the problem.
Of course i don't react to that, that goes without saying, i'm only reacting to what i think you may have misunderstood.

I have blurry fonts in 12 too.
Without Nvidia, only at intel integral video

I had this problem only with OS scaling different then 100%.

If you have a repro scenario, file a ticket at RS Homepage.

[dmitrijsorokin]

I also have blurry and gray fonts, like I'm having vision problems at 100% scale.

11-12.png

This is independent of the hardware, as since the release of version 12, I upgraded the computer, and also tried it on a laptop.
This manifests itself on any hardware and does not depend on the video card and driver version: AMD, Intel, Nvdia.
It also does not depend on the version of Windows, because I have updated and reinstalled Windows more than once.

On the left - half of Reason 11, on the right - half Reason 12.
It must be viewed in the original resolution 1920 * 1080 (open the image in a separate window).

[EverybodyNeedsA303]

I also have blurry and gray fonts, like I'm having vision problems at 100% scale.

11-12.png

This is independent of the hardware, as since the release of version 12, I upgraded the computer, and also tried it on a laptop.
This manifests itself on any hardware and does not depend on the video card and driver version: AMD, Intel, Nvdia.
It also does not depend on the version of Windows, because I have updated and reinstalled Windows more than once.

On the left - half of Reason 11, on the right - half Reason 12.
It must be viewed in the original resolution 1920 * 1080 (open the image in a separate window).

They seem to mostly use Macs at Reason Studios and Reason 12 was all about making it look good on the Retina screens. I imagine testing 100% zoom standard DPI was far down on their list of priorities, especially on Windows devices which never seem to have supported HiDPI as well as Macs at a software level anyway.

Good luck getting RS to fix this bug.

[mind2069]

I also have blurry and gray fonts, like I'm having vision problems at 100% scale.

11-12.png

This is independent of the hardware, as since the release of version 12, I upgraded the computer, and also tried it on a laptop.
This manifests itself on any hardware and does not depend on the video card and driver version: AMD, Intel, Nvdia.
It also does not depend on the version of Windows, because I have updated and reinstalled Windows more than once.

On the left - half of Reason 11, on the right - half Reason 12.
It must be viewed in the original resolution 1920 * 1080 (open the image in a separate window).

Same here, I complained about this right away a while ago upon installing Reason 12 with comparison images and people seemed fine with the blurriness. Reason 12 on 1920 *1080 at 100% is painful to look at, I can't do it, it's like my eyes are always trying to focus, as soon as I load up Reason 11, it's like wow, everything is clear. Some stuff like shadows on the mute / solo buttons are quite awful and looks like a newbie using the shadow effect (like in photoshop) designed the thing.

I hope when I buy a 4k 3840*2160 monitor that the blurriness will be resolved

[EverybodyNeedsA303]

I also have blurry and gray fonts, like I'm having vision problems at 100% scale.

11-12.png

This is independent of the hardware, as since the release of version 12, I upgraded the computer, and also tried it on a laptop.
This manifests itself on any hardware and does not depend on the video card and driver version: AMD, Intel, Nvdia.
It also does not depend on the version of Windows, because I have updated and reinstalled Windows more than once.

On the left - half of Reason 11, on the right - half Reason 12.
It must be viewed in the original resolution 1920 * 1080 (open the image in a separate window).

Same here, I complained about this right away a while ago upon installing Reason 12 with comparison images and people seemed fine with the blurriness. Reason 12 on 1920 *1080 at 100% is painful to look at, I can't do it, it's like my eyes are always trying to focus, as soon as I load up Reason 11, it's like wow, everything is clear. Some stuff like shadows on the mute / solo buttons are quite awful and looks like a newbie using the shadow effect (like in photoshop) designed the thing.

I hope when I buy a 4k 3840*2160 monitor that the blurriness will be resolved

Reason 12 looks rubbish on low DPI on Windows. It looks OK on low resolution Mac but not as good as Reason 11 does on the same machine. It's best if you only run Reason 12 on HiDPI.

[plaamook]

Reason 12 80% looks like shit on my 2012 Mac and has done since day one. W a few improvements but not many. Like there are still so many visual inconsistencies that I won’t bother listing them. I just figure one day I’ll be able to afford a new comp and they’ll all disappear.
Or not.

[jklok]

I couldn't help but notice the change on the Reasonstudios site that there is no longer a disclaimer about termination of authorization on September 25th for older versions with codemeter? Hoping that the company has changed its mind to support users of older versions in the future here? It would make me and many other users very happy, I believe. As a 12.5 user, I can say that it works perfectly in this respect on the M1, without any crashes. And just an awesome and powerful workstation in my humble opinion. If I can register my modules with codemeter in the future, I will probably buy more rack extensions when they go on sale. This is something I usually save up for throughout the year due to an overall limited budget. Hoping for the best here. Kind regards.