Behringer X-Touch mini Remote mapping

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Post 24 Nov 2022

Edit - unnecessary post. So deleted.
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Post 24 Nov 2022

Or does this codec work in Mackie mode ?

Edit : works with Mackie mode. And devices like subtractor haven't been mapped. But the codec works so that's the important thing, I'll create my own maps as per my preference.

Edit 2 : putting xtouchmini in Mackie mode : remove USB cable from xtouchmini,Press and hold bottom left button(labelled MC), connect cable while holding MC button. Controller will flash a few times. And then the MC mode LED on the top right will light up and controller will stop flashing.
Now release the MC button.

Do the same procedure again for getting out of MC mode.
Keeping this info here just in case.

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Thanks a ton for the codec friend.

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Post 31 Dec 2022

Hi ,

WOuld anyone be interested expanding the functions to reason stock-instruments? redrum integration would be awesome!

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Post 31 Dec 2022

disco81 wrote:
31 Dec 2022
Hi ,

WOuld anyone be interested expanding the functions to reason stock-instruments? redrum integration would be awesome!
Well, i tried using Reason standalone with this remote script, and although it does work ok, i gave up and went back to my usual workflow of using RRP rather than reason standalone.
Unfortunately reason lacks a gui based utility to generate custom remote maps.
And then there are tons of devices to write maps for.
It just isn't feasible at all.
Also the way different user might want to configure their controller would be different.
For example you might want the dry/wet knob on a reverb unit to be knob number 1, i might want it to be knob 8...that creates more problems.

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Post 03 Jan 2023

I just use MC Mode with a Combinator, save, and return to the same state I left the controls in. If I want to control Europa, Thor, Obsession etc I prefer to simply add the controls myself, it is no fuss and quick

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Post 08 Jan 2023

Arpeg wrote:
03 Jan 2023
I just use MC Mode with a Combinator, save, and return to the same state I left the controls in. If I want to control Europa, Thor, Obsession etc I prefer to simply add the controls myself, it is no fuss and quick
Ok I'll have to see how that works out.

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Post 08 Jan 2023

Arpeg wrote:
03 Jan 2023
I just use MC Mode with a Combinator, save, and return to the same state I left the controls in. If I want to control Europa, Thor, Obsession etc I prefer to simply add the controls myself, it is no fuss and quick
I think this is a very good idea, to use a master default combinator template rather than scripting every possible instrument/re for the purpose. :thumbup:

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Post 08 Jan 2023

visheshl wrote:
31 Dec 2022
disco81 wrote:
31 Dec 2022
Hi ,

WOuld anyone be interested expanding the functions to reason stock-instruments? redrum integration would be awesome!
Well, i tried using Reason standalone with this remote script, and although it does work ok, i gave up and went back to my usual workflow of using RRP rather than reason standalone.
Unfortunately reason lacks a gui based utility to generate custom remote maps.
And then there are tons of devices to write maps for.
It just isn't feasible at all.
Also the way different user might want to configure their controller would be different.
For example you might want the dry/wet knob on a reverb unit to be knob number 1, i might want it to be knob 8...that creates more problems.
Yeah, I also would rather not go into something so tedious and end up making no music at all! ;)

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Post 05 Mar 2023

Hello, does anyone know how to map this eq? with X-Touch mini

i try but I can't move the bands,

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Post 24 May 2023

What are your experiences today? Is this controller still worth buying?

The price doubled (or more) after COVID, but it's still the cheapest controller with encoders.

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Post 24 May 2023

Nothing has changed on the Behringer side of things as far as I'm aware. All works fine in Reason, too. Not sure if it was included in the latest update to 'supported midi keyboards and control surfaces' as the list has not been updated but apparently a number of control surfaces have?!
Still use mine near daily. Love the ease of use with Mackie mode. led encoders at this price is a no brainer if one cannot afford the better options at a higher price.

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Post 11 Oct 2023

Hello everyone,
I also bought an X-touch mini. I'm using a computer with Windows 11, Reason 12. I finally got communication working with Reason. After analyzing the remotemap and codec files, I would like to thank Gulli Johansen for his great work. I have to admit that the controller has incredible possibilities thanks to the layers. This gives you 64 rotary controllers (with 7 backlight options) and 64 backlit buttons, 8 faders and 2 frm buttons. and 8 buttons for controlling the Reason control panel (PLAY, REW, REC, etc.) Yes, as was said, the controller is also programmed with a Master section and Mix, but to be honest, if I wanted to control the mix, I would probably buy a bigger device than the X- touch mini and even then it is better to sit down at the computer and control it with a mouse. I'm not a programmer, but I've already started mapping and I want to map mainly synthesizers, because when I sit down at the keyboard, it's faster for me to control the parameters on the x-touch, for example, because I don't have many controllers on my Korg microStation. So I only have one so far, but I wanted to share the experience that the Behringer with Reason works very well, as Hans_47 already wrote here, it must be switched to MC mode. Place the files in Reason's storage - the remote folder, see gullum at the beginning of the thread. The REC button just didn't work for me - I fixed the Lua codec and in Remotemap I mapped the frm A and frm B buttons as Prew and last Preset, so even if your device is not mapped, you can switch the presets to X-touch. I took the liberty of doing this because Gulli only used these buttons in the Master section and they still work there as well. I don't speak English very well, so I'm using a translator here, I hope he translated it correctly. Anyway, don't worry guys, this little gadget will surprise you. Thanks again gullum, because without you, the X-touch mini with Reason will be useless to me. Have a nice day.

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Post 07 Nov 2023

gullum wrote:
06 Nov 2019
List of devices that are mapped


Reason Devices and RE's

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Reason Studio	Combinator
Reason Studio	Acoustic Guitarist
Reason Studio Radical Piano
Reason Studio	Polar
Reason Studio Scream 4 Distortion
Reason Studio Channel Dynamics 
Reason Studio Channel EQ
Reason Studio Master Compressor
Reason Studio  A List Studio Drummer
Reason Studio Audiomatic 
Reason Studio	RV7000 Advanced Reverb
Reason Studio	MClass Equalizer
Reason Studio	MClass Compressr
Reason Studio	MClass Maximizer
Reason Studio	MClass Stereo Imager
Reason Studio Pulsar
Reason Studio Line Mixer 6:2 
Reason Studio	RV-7 Digital Reverb
Reason Studio	DDL-1 Digital Delay Line
Reason Studio	D-11 Foldback Distortion
Reason Studio	ECF-42 Envelope Controlled Filter
Reason Studio	CF-101 Chorus/Flanger
Reason Studio	PH-90 Phaser
Reason Studio	UN-16 Unison
Reason Studio	COMP-01 Compressor/Limiter
Reason Studio	PEQ-2 Two Band Parametric EQ
RE's mapped

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Kuassa EVE AT1
Kuassa EVE AT4
Kuassa EVE MP5
Kuassa Efektor Silencer
Kuassa Kratos 2 Maximizer
Kuassa Efektor CP3603
Kuassa  Efektor CH3604
Kuassa Efektor DS3603
Kuassa Efektor FZ3603
Kuassa Efektor OD3603
Kuassa Delay Efektor DL3606
Kuassa Amplifikation Vermilion
Kuassa Amplifikation Creme
Kuassa Amplifikation Caliburn
Kuassa Amplifikation Matchlock
Kuassa Cerberus Bass Amp
kiloHearts 3BandEQ
kiloHearts Chorus
kiloHearts Delay
kiloHearts Gain
kiloHearts Limiter
kiloHearts Reverser
kiloHearts Stereo
kiloHearts TransientShaper
Synapse Audio Software Chorus
Synapse Audio Software Filter
Synapse Audio Software Phaser
Synapse Audio Software Reverb
Synapse Audio Software Ring Modulation
Synapse Audio Software Vintage EQ
Synapse Audio GQ7
Synapse Audio Ninety
Softube TubeTechCC
Softube Reason Bass Amp
Softube Reason Amp
Softube FET Compressor
Softube Dynamite(Valley People 
Softube Tridemt A-Range EQ
Softube Saturation Knob
Flower Audio Loudness Meter
Selig Audi Leveler
Selig Audio Gain
Selig Audio DeEsser
Quadelectra StereoSplitter
Ochen K Carve EQ Ducker
iZotope Inc Ozone Maximizer
pongasoft ABSwitch
Unfiltered Audio G8 Dynamic Gate
Unfiltered Audio Yoko Band-Spliter
ThatMusicCompany T2 Phaser
ThatMusicCompany Distort Chain
ThatMusicCompany Mr Over Drive
MSDSP Moo Tube Compresso
McDSP Moo Q Equalizer
McDSP C670 Compressor
McDSP E670 Equalizer
McDSP FRG-EEE Equalizer
McDSP FRG-4RE Compressor
Bassment DSP SA16 Chorus
DLD Technology	Revolution
Devoloop DYNARAGE
Rob Papen RPSpec 
Cakewalk RE2A
fxpansion DCAM Envolute Shaper
Reasonistas	CORE
fxpansion DCAM Bus COmpresser
LAB ONE Buttonings ReQ 131
Audiorealism Abl2
Audiorealism ReDominator
IOx Audioware Titan 410x Precision Maximizer
IOx Audioware Onyx Onyx 430i Tube Limiter
Red Rock Sound	Multi Band Compressor
Red Rock Sound	Multi Band Limiter 
Red Rock Sound C1-Alpha
Red Rock Sound C1L1
Red Rock Sound C1-Sigma
Red Rock Sound Re 60 Spectrum Analyzer
Red Rock Sound Re 202
Red Rock Sound Re 200
Red Rock Sound Re 302
Red Rock Sound. Orchesteral Hall Reverb


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Post 07 Nov 2023

I'm starting to add synthesizers. I added to the file from gullium.
Dr.REX Loop Player
Redrum Drum Computer
NN-XT Advanced Sampler
NN19 Digital Sampler
SubTractor Analog Synthesizer
Malstrom Graintable Synthesizer
BV512 Digital Vocoder
Combo B3 Tonewheels Organ
THOR Polysonic Synthesizer


I expanded the Combinator to 16 Rotarry and 16 Button.
And I've reworked the aster section as much as possible to mix 8 channels and switch to another 8 channels, but only the basics are there, like panorama, individual channel volume and master volume. Work with the .zip file exactly as instructed by gullium above. I recommend to save the codec as well, as I have redesigned it a bit compared to gullium - I used the Layer buttons in all mappings to overlap patches, which is a shame to lose.
Since all of these tools are mapping intensive, I was thinking how to make it as user friendly as possible, but I still had to use the X touch extensions. For example:
Using Rottary buttons, which are buttons below the rotary encoders. Pressing this button will open another layer of mapping. E.g. in Dr Rex_Map Master Fader Mod Wheel
Map Rotary Button 5 Section=Osc
Map Rotary Button 2 Section=Main
Map Rotary Button 3 Section=Main1
Map Rotary Button 4 Section=Main2
Map Rotary Button 1 Run

I recommend in Reason - Options menu - Remote Override Edit Mod - then just click on the synth in the return, just like when you want to connect it to midi and you'll see yellow circles where it's mapped with X-Touch. Then when you press some Rotttary Button on the X-Touch, the wheels will change depending on the mapping.
For example, Redrun is mapped as a mixing console first - the first five Rottary Buttons - Level/ Solo function. If you press these buttons, the next menu will expand directly to the current Redrun slot. When you want to return to the Mix, press Rottary 6 to return to the Mix. When you want the next 5 channels, press Rottary 8, and press Rottary 8 again to return to channels 1-5. Press Rotary Button 7 to enter step editing mode, the keys flash according to the beat as Redrum plays.

B3 Tonewheels - Rottary buttons 1-3 to toggle the individual button sections and Rottary b.4 to switch to the individual Draw Bar settings. But the mapping has to be done for each Draw Bar preset separately, so you have to switch between the individual Rottary presets b. 8 and the button below it at the same time, i.e. button 8. If you have everything correct, you can see when you change the Draw Bar by turning any Rottary on the screen. If the preset is not synchronized with the Draw Bars, nothing moves. Here I've adjusted the Led lighting around the Rottars in the codec that they rotate against, so update your codec as well. And one more note, Because there are 9 Draw Bars, I had to use the Master Fader as the 9 Draw Bar, which I normally avoid and assign the Mod Wheel function to, because it doesn't show the current position like the Led Lighting Rottaryes do, and I have this function as a joystick on my master keyboard, which is not convenient for me.

If you are interested, I will also explain the other machines or remake them. And I will map further, I still have a lot in stock.

Download .zip
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Post 07 Nov 2023

Wow, very good work, thank you. Do I remove gullum's original maps/codecs.. to be honest I rarely use them anyhow as I have a Nektar but I am interested in your update for sure.

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Post 22 Nov 2023

Hey gullum and arpegiator1,
Thank you very much for the effort to create the codec and the maps. Everything works wonderfully with my x-touch mini :clap: :thumbup:

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Post 26 Nov 2023

Since last time, I've expanded RemoteMap to include the players I have. Full list of devices in Zip file. I may add help in the future, as some maps use multiple layers and switching between them, and it's a shame not to know all the options.

Propellerhead Software Parsec
Jiggery Pokery Combo B3 Tonewheels Organ
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Players
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Propellerhead Software QuadNoteGenerator
Propellerhead Software PolyStepSequencer
Propellerhead Software Bassline
Propellerhead Software Arpeggio
Propellerhead Software ChordSequencer
Propellerhead Software Mutator
Propellerhead Software NoteEcho
Propellerhead Software DrumSeq
Propellerhead Software ScalesAndChords
Propellerhead Software BeatMap

Static Cling ChordDetector
Lectric Panda LLC CV Player
Selig Audio NoteView
Robotic Bean EuclidPlayer
Tonicmint Negate


Download .zip

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Post 26 Nov 2023

Reason Devices and RE's
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Reason Studio	Combinator
Reason Studio	Acoustic Guitarist
Reason Studio Radical Piano
Reason Studio	Polar
Reason Studio Scream 4 Distortion
Reason Studio Channel Dynamics 
Reason Studio Channel EQ
Reason Studio Master Compressor
Reason Studio  A List Studio Drummer
Reason Studio Audiomatic 
Reason Studio	RV7000 Advanced Reverb
Reason Studio	MClass Equalizer
Reason Studio	MClass Compressr
Reason Studio	MClass Maximizer
Reason Studio	MClass Stereo Imager
Reason Studio Pulsar
Reason Studio Line Mixer 6:2 
Reason Studio	RV-7 Digital Reverb
Reason Studio	DDL-1 Digital Delay Line
Reason Studio	D-11 Foldback Distortion
Reason Studio	ECF-42 Envelope Controlled Filter
Reason Studio	CF-101 Chorus/Flanger
Reason Studio	PH-90 Phaser
Reason Studio	UN-16 Unison
Reason Studio	COMP-01 Compressor/Limiter
Reason Studio	PEQ-2 Two Band Parametric EQ
Reason Studio   Dr.REX Loop Player
Reason Studio   Redrum Drum Computer
Reason Studio   NN-XT Advanced Sampler
Reason Studio   NN19 Digital Sampler
Reason Studio   SubTractor Analog Synthesizer
Reason Studio   Malstrom Graintable Synthesizer
Reason Studio   BV512 Digital Vocoder
Reason Studio   THOR Polysonic Synthesizer
Propellerhead Software	Parsec
Jiggery Pokery  Combo B3 Tonewheels Organ
========================================================================================

Players
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Propellerhead Software	 QuadNoteGenerator
Propellerhead Software	 PolyStepSequencer
Propellerhead Software	 Bassline
Propellerhead Software	 Arpeggio
Propellerhead Software	 ChordSequencer
Propellerhead Software	 Mutator
Propellerhead Software	 NoteEcho
Propellerhead Software	 DrumSeq
Propellerhead Software	 ScalesAndChords
Propellerhead Software	 BeatMap

Static Cling	    ChordDetector
Lectric Panda LLC   CV Player
Selig Audio	    NoteView
Robotic Bean	    EuclidPlayer 
Tonicmint	    Negate





RE's mapped 
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Kuassa EVE AT1
Kuassa EVE AT4
Kuassa EVE MP5
Kuassa Efektor Silencer
Kuassa Kratos 2 Maximizer
Kuassa Efektor CP3603
Kuassa  Efektor CH3604
Kuassa Efektor DS3603
Kuassa Efektor FZ3603
Kuassa Efektor OD3603
Kuassa Delay Efektor DL3606
Kuassa Amplifikation Vermilion
Kuassa Amplifikation Creme
Kuassa Amplifikation Caliburn
Kuassa Amplifikation Matchlock
Kuassa Cerberus Bass Amp
kiloHearts 3BandEQ
kiloHearts Chorus
kiloHearts Delay
kiloHearts Gain
kiloHearts Limiter
kiloHearts Reverser
kiloHearts Stereo
kiloHearts TransientShaper
Synapse Audio Software Chorus
Synapse Audio Software Filter
Synapse Audio Software Phaser
Synapse Audio Software Reverb
Synapse Audio Software Ring Modulation
Synapse Audio Software Vintage EQ
Synapse Audio GQ7
Synapse Audio Ninety
Softube TubeTechCC
Softube Reason Bass Amp
Softube Reason Amp
Softube FET Compressor
Softube Dynamite(Valley People 
Softube Tridemt A-Range EQ
Softube Saturation Knob
Flower Audio Loudness Meter
Selig Audi Leveler
Selig Audio Gain
Selig Audio DeEsser
Quadelectra StereoSplitter
Ochen K Carve EQ Ducker
iZotope Inc Ozone Maximizer
pongasoft ABSwitch
Unfiltered Audio G8 Dynamic Gate
Unfiltered Audio Yoko Band-Spliter
ThatMusicCompany T2 Phaser
ThatMusicCompany Distort Chain
ThatMusicCompany Mr Over Drive
MSDSP Moo Tube Compresso
McDSP Moo Q Equalizer
McDSP C670 Compressor
McDSP E670 Equalizer
McDSP FRG-EEE Equalizer
McDSP FRG-4RE Compressor
Bassment DSP SA16 Chorus
DLD Technology	Revolution
Devoloop DYNARAGE
Rob Papen RPSpec 
Cakewalk RE2A
fxpansion DCAM Envolute Shaper
Reasonistas	CORE
fxpansion DCAM Bus COmpresser
LAB ONE Buttonings ReQ 131
Audiorealism Abl2
Audiorealism ReDominator
IOx Audioware Titan 410x Precision Maximizer
IOx Audioware Onyx Onyx 430i Tube Limiter
Red Rock Sound	Multi Band Compressor
Red Rock Sound	Multi Band Limiter 
Red Rock Sound C1-Alpha
Red Rock Sound C1L1
Red Rock Sound C1-Sigma
Red Rock Sound Re 60 Spectrum Analyzer
Red Rock Sound Re 202
Red Rock Sound Re 200
Red Rock Sound Re 302
Red Rock Sound. Orchesteral Hall Reverb


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Post 26 Nov 2023

yeah, nice. :thumbup:

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Post 05 Dec 2023

And I'm adding another 40 Effects maps that I have. And I still have a lot of Instruments and Utilities to go. So Merry Christmas everyone, it will probably be after the new year. For the Sweeper and Quartet effects I used the new effect switching. For Quartet, you press the first Rottary button for the first effect, i.e. for the chorus, several times until the first effect is red - active. If you want to edit the second, i.e. BBD, you press the second Rottary until the red jumps to BBD. Do the same with the third, or any other. With Sweeper it's similar, only on the first button is the main menu and only from the second button onwards are the effects, which again you can control by pressing several times. I recommend to first press in Reason Menu - Options - Remote Override Edit mode (with Operation_Manual. Page 599) and tap on Effect, there you will see the buttons mapped in that layer and when you press Some rottary buton the yellow characters will move to other buttons.

The list is at the Remote file, so I don't bother the Forum here....Thanks
Currently 175 maps in total

Download .zip

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Post 06 Dec 2023

So this mapping is really cool. You have done a great job here. I have 2 Mini's so just used OctoRex with them and the mapping is nice to use with many options and layers.

Now I've just tried REdrum and pressing Rotary Button 7 doesn't enter Step Edit Mode for me but Rotary Button 8 does and it looks great on two Mini's. So with 1 Mini only 8 steps can be viewed until I press RB 8 again to view the next 8 steps but with 2 Mini's I see all 16.. This is excellent.

Plus, with my Impact lx49+.. I got a lot of devices covered now.. So thank you very much

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Post 07 Dec 2023

With ReDrum, the mode under Rottary Button 7 is mixer mode, meaning you have 8+8 channels , but only level and pan, When I map all my furnishings, I'm thinking of mapping the devices you request. I can actually download the trial version , map it and delete it in peace and it will help you. But for now, I have many synthesizers in front of me...

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Post 19 Dec 2023

And another 20 Utilities including Mixer 14:2.The list is in the file. And now I just need to map my instruments, but I have more of them, so it will take longer.
Download .zip

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Post 23 Dec 2023

arpegiator1 wrote:
19 Dec 2023
looks like it's coming along really well, I'm happy to see what I started can br of use to more people and grate work on improving the mappings

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Post 24 Dec 2023

gullum wrote:
23 Dec 2023
arpegiator1 wrote:
19 Dec 2023
looks like it's coming along really well, I'm happy to see what I started can br of use to more people and grate work on improving the mappings
Indeed, thanks for your work and starting this. Having the ReDrum sequencer now play out across the bottom row of buttons and able to input with the top row is excellent.
Great Work all programmers, very much appreciated.

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