Softube Console 1 as MIDI controller for the SSL mixer

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Ahornberg
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Post 17 Nov 2018

tobypearce wrote:
17 Nov 2018
I have a couple of questions about using Console 1 in Reason.

I have it, and it's really excellent to be able to mix hands on. So far I have only used it as intended: to control the vst insert effects on each channel. I can see the wider possibilities, so I'm wondering:

1. When you install console 1 as a control surface in Reason (i.e. with the custom mapping in this thread), can you still use as an insert effect in the intended way? How does it switch between the two?

I'm looking forward to diving into this but I don't want to break anything and cause trouble for the way console 1 is working right now!!

2. I'm wondering whether a simplified version of the custom mapping might be possible, for example:
Keep most things within console one but have console 1 control volume and pan on Reason's mixer?
There is no simple switch between using the Console 1 hardware as a MIDI controller and as a dedicated hardware for the Console 1 VST. I'm on WIndows and there's an app called "Console 1 Screen Display" provided by Softube that usually loads at Windows startup and turns the hardware controller in VST mode. I set this app to start manually and so by default I'm in MIDI mode to control Reason's mixer. And by starting the app and unplugging/re-plugging the hardware I can go in VST mode if I like. Switching back to MIDI mode is done by killing the app in the Windows task manager and unplugging/re-plugging the hardware. I didn't find a way to use the hardware for both Reason's mixer and Softube's Console 1 VST at the same time. Only Softube could make that happen by updating their software but they told me they are not interested in this feature. Feel free to contact Softube to show them there's one more user who wants a better DAW integration for Reason.

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Post 18 Nov 2018

Thanks Ahomberg.

It sounds like it's kind of an either or situation - not possible to switch back and forwards multiple times easily.

I'm really enjoying using the console as is so I think I'll stick with that.

And on the subject, I can't believe what a difference it made even to my first mix down using Console1. Whether it's the sound of the emulation itself, the focus created by just using the console and working just in mixing mode with a small number of options available (no trying one compressor, almost immediately imagining that another would be better and swapping to that), or using hands rather than a mouse pointer, or maybe a combination of all these - something's making a big difference and I'm so happy with my first real mix with this thing.

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Post 14 Mar 2019

My Console 1 will be here tomorrow, so I thought I'd join the thread here. I also registered with PH as a Remote dev in order to try and piece some codec(s) together. I honestly can't see the sense in hardware manufacturers *not* putting out a codec for as many DAWs as they can - even if they're somewhat basic. Make it as usable as your hardware + each DAW will allow for, and state clearly what it can & cannot do. Soooooo many controllers out there that are just... "floating" around in codec purgatory. :cry:

Anyhow, anything I can contribute, I'll post here.

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Post 14 Mar 2019

alexsandor wrote:
14 Mar 2019
My Console 1 will be here tomorrow, so I thought I'd join the thread here. I also registered with PH as a Remote dev in order to try and piece some codec(s) together. I honestly can't see the sense in hardware manufacturers *not* putting out a codec for as many DAWs as they can - even if they're somewhat basic. Make it as usable as your hardware + each DAW will allow for, and state clearly what it can & cannot do. Soooooo many controllers out there that are just... "floating" around in codec purgatory. :cry:

Anyhow, anything I can contribute, I'll post here.
Fine to hear that. I often thought of extending my Remote script for other devices but the Reason mixer channel strip but I never found the time to do it.

Three years ago I mailed Softube and aked about making a Codec or a DAW integration into Reason and the answer was just the following one-liner:

"Currently there are no such plans. Thank you for your interest!"

Then I started writing my own codec.

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Post 15 Mar 2019

I hear you! I've gotten pretty much the same canned replies to any emails I've sent to manufacturers about codecs. I've acquired a decent number of controllers along the way, on my search for something at least halfway usable - a Nektar P6, Presonus Faderport, Behringer X-Touch Mini, and now the Console 1. I do have to say, though - I really don't know where Propellerhead's head is at, sometimes. I've been using their software since version 4, and their MCU codec is so broken, I honestly can't blame manufacturers from steering clear of even bothering with Reason support. I still use Reason for some of the initial bits of the creative process, but then it's Rewired straight into Studio One 4, where I can actually use my controllers.. 🤨

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Post 16 Mar 2019

alexsandor wrote:
15 Mar 2019
[...] I still use Reason for some of the initial bits of the creative process, but then it's Rewired straight into Studio One 4, where I can actually use my controllers.. 🤨
If Rewire works fine for you, just stay on your workflow. Console 1 integrates well into Studio One.

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Post 16 Mar 2019

It's not ideal, but it's the best solution I've come across, thus far.

Wow, I really like this Console 1. I just saw that you've been working on bridging it with Reason, as well - looking forward to giving it a spin! All my whining may end up having been for naught! 😭😂

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