VK-1 just got a (paid) update

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hurricane
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14 Jun 2018

I REALLY miss the old skin, Blam. :wave:

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Blamsoft
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14 Jun 2018

2012, the good old days, I have fond memories of that year. ;)

VK-1 was released Novemeber 28, 2012 to be exact.
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fieldframe
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14 Jun 2018

esselfortium wrote:
14 Jun 2018
The lack of a backwards-compatibility switch for old songs is a really bad idea. You say it's not worth having because it's "an overall worse mode" but you also say that it sounds different enough to affect existing songs. The sacrifice there doesn't make any sense to me.

There's a good reason why, for instance, the 14:2 mixer had a Compatible/Improved toggle added to its back panel when it was upgraded: the new (default) mode sounds different, and it would break existing songs without that compat switch.
I kind of have to agree on this. I appreciate that Blamsoft didn't make any continuity-breaking changes until this paid upgrade, but honestly, if I had a lot of fully-mixed song projects that used VK-1, this would completely put me off upgrading.

I also understand that feature flags are a big overhead in software development, and that keeping both engines in the codebase may have been judged too high a development cost for a $15 upgrade. Trade-offs, I guess.
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raymondh
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15 Jun 2018

It's nice that we've been made aware of the differences.
People can always bounce to audio on their 'old' VK1 tracks if they want to preserve that sound, before upgrading.

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raymondh
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15 Jun 2018

chimp_spanner wrote:
14 Jun 2018
Unfortunately I don't have much to show apart from this awfully derivative 80s/synthwave thing I'm doing for work. The bass and main melody are VK-1. I'd say it just has more presence, and power than it used to. Always lacked a bit of impact to my ear, which is why I'd end up using VK-2 with its way sharper, more aggressive filter envelopes or Legend with its rounder bottom end. Now I think I can use VK-1 for a lot more stuff!



More than anything I'd say it's super playable. Especially the Synthwave patches. The sound isn't so radically different as to be unusable. Like I recognise the old patches. They just sound...better.
Very cool!!!

EdGrip
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15 Jun 2018

How about someone with an old VK-1 track upgrades, and exports the same track with new VK-1 so we can hear how different it is?
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Blamsoft
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15 Jun 2018

Sorry for an EDM demo, but I had this one bounced. I think the old version is thin in comparison. It is also a little harsher.


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miscend
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15 Jun 2018

How about you redo the shoot out with the Moog Voyager?

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Blamsoft
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15 Jun 2018

miscend wrote:
15 Jun 2018
How about you redo the shoot out with the Moog Voyager?
Haven't had time to do that.

lowpryo
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15 Jun 2018

Blamsoft wrote:
15 Jun 2018
Sorry for an EDM demo, but I had this one bounced. I think the old version is thin in comparison. It is also a little harsher.

dang, comparing at 1:30 it's like turning a light switch on in the track. definitely an improvement! it's funny how particular some people can be about the backwards compatability thing. it's not a drastic enough change where you lose the identity of your track or anything IMO!

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Blamsoft
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15 Jun 2018

These demos feature the new Synthwave patches.


jlgrimes
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17 Jun 2018

Blamsoft wrote:
15 Jun 2018
These demos feature the new Synthwave patches.

Bought.

Sounds "sweeter" and puts it more in line with the newer Moog emulations.

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