
Anyone else ever try to export a large song file? I have 500 GB of room available on this drive and the scratch disc, so an ~8 GB wav file should be fine!






No, WAV an AIFF files have that limit due to 32bit addressing in the header. Reason's own file format hasn't, neither has CAF or MP3 for that matter.
Hah, yeah thats true. I guess the usual "whose fault is it?" spirit of the ReasonTalk forum overcame me - I was just thinking about where the actual reason for this issue lies
Thanks for explaining, Normen!normen wrote: ↑10 May 2018Hah, yeah thats true. I guess the usual "whose fault is it?" spirit of the ReasonTalk forum overcame me - I was just thinking about where the actual reason for this issue liesBut yeah, unless you consider copy-pasting into another Reason project an "export" theres no other option really I guess.
Edit: I don't know if this is true for Reason but I think the formats have both been "hacked" to support larger files - if the app supports it. So I don't know if we're beating dead horses anyway here. I mean it's a string of assumptions by now as far as I can see? Enoch can't export -> WAV / AIFF have that 4GB limit -> Reason can only export WAV and AIFF -> Reason can only export 4GB files.
It is in this day and age when you can even buy 512GB micro SD cards. Memory is not an issue anymore and as far as I'm aware there is no limit to file sizes in NTFS drives. Maybe it's just a legacy limit thing for users still on FAT32 drives or might be another reason but I've come across this problem before too when I wanted to export a very long wav file.
As I said it's a file format issue, not a file system issue. Both WAV an AIFF use a 32 bit value in their header to map samples in the file. "Extended" versions of the file format use previously reserved bits in the header to map more samples. So you sometimes get the situation where you have a 10GB AIFF and the app only recognizes the first 4GB of data in it.Aosta wrote: ↑11 May 2018It is in this day and age when you can even buy 512GB micro SD cards. Memory is not an issue anymore and as far as I'm aware there is no limit to file sizes in NTFS drives. Maybe it's just a legacy limit thing for users still on FAT32 drives or might be another reason but I've come across this problem before too when I wanted to export a very long wav file.
I hear ya' (and I'm certain Audition uses W64 for larger files). But to be honest, on the scale of "important things that need to happen to Reason fast", at least for me this ranks at the bottom. As I said earlier, this is the first time in 17-18 years I've even tried to do this in Reason.madmacman wrote: ↑11 May 2018@EnochLight: That would be a proper feature request. In fact there ARE file formats that can handle it. See Wikipedia (section „Limitations“) for more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV?wprov=sfti1
Props would need to implement a dedicated new file format such as W64 or RF64.
EDIT: And while we are at it: I‘d love to see the support of BWF (broadcast WAV) along with RF64. BWF contains lots of metadata for easy audio exchange, most notably timestamps: When importing BWAV, then the clip is immediately placed at the correct position in the timeline.
Indeed, it's not my top priority, either.EnochLight wrote: ↑11 May 2018But to be honest, on the scale of "important things that need to happen to Reason fast", at least for me this ranks at the bottom.
There is a file format in Nuendo/Cubase called Wave64 that allows terabyte-sizes files.normen wrote: ↑10 May 2018Hah, yeah thats true. I guess the usual "whose fault is it?" spirit of the ReasonTalk forum overcame me - I was just thinking about where the actual reason for this issue liesBut yeah, unless you consider copy-pasting into another Reason project an "export" theres no other option really I guess.
Edit: I don't know if this is true for Reason but I think the formats have both been "hacked" to support larger files - if the app supports it. So I don't know if we're beating dead horses anyway here. I mean it's a string of assumptions by now as far as I can see? Enoch can't export -> WAV / AIFF have that 4GB limit -> Reason can only export WAV and AIFF -> Reason can only export 4GB files.
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