Apple REFUSED to Fix our iMac Pro

[bxbrkrz]

[Jmax]

Ah, as an IT guy, I can't resist a good Mac vs PC debate.

As I said, I'm in IT. I've worked on just about everything. I used to own a macbook and even an apple server. *Used to*.

I can attest to the fact that if you are technical and get under the hood, you're going to run into just as many stupid annoying issues/hassles on a mac as a PC. They're not immune to installation errors and other nonsensical problems. Not in the slightest. I even dual booted my macbook with windows. That was fun.

The macbook I owned was damn near exactly the same specs as my Lenovo but the Lenovo ran circles around it. It did everything faster. Photoshop, lightroom, etc. And the Lenovo had a tablet screen with a stylus. Additionally, the macbook had such a horrendously glossy screen, that you had to work in near pitch black to see any finer details in photos or graphic design. Which I thought was odd, since most artsy types love to talk about how great Macs are for artsy stuff. It's kind of difficult to edit photos or do graphic design when you're trying to look through a mirror.

I can appreciate a finely designed machine. I don't dislike Mac laptops. But I expect too much from my equipment. And I can custom build a better machine for far less money all day long.

I had a friend in high school who’s older brother put a Chevy engine in his Porsche 911. TOTALLY rocked! I would only need such a custom build if a) I had built it myself and had the tools and knowhow to fix it when it breaks down and b) if I actually needed that level of power.

Most of us are travelers who need to get from point A to point B, and don’t have the time or skill set to build our own custom vehicle, no matter how well it outperforms what we can get at our local car dealer.

That’s how I choose my vehicles, and that’s how I choose all of my tools! But I can totally appreciate those who have the skills to ‘roll their own’, whether it be a vehicle or a computer!


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That does make sense. I have a good friend that builds mine for me. He has built two or three over the years and all from scratch we go buy the parts together. He always tells me how simple it is and just takes a bit of time to learn. However, I must admit, I just don't get how it all fits together or am a bit worried I"ll break something. That being said, I see deals all the time for PC's that have been custom built at the main Comp shops. Price wise these are about half the price for the same power as a Mac. I"d most likely just buy one of those instead if I didn't have the help.
Going back to the cars.. I have two insured a 2011 Nissan Versa, and a 2010 Kia Forte. I mostly drive the Versa because I get the most bang for the buck fuel wise. The Kia is all about the look and sleekness. How I ended up with two is a different story.

Hey in the end, it doesn't matter what kind of computer you use to make music. The important thing is you enjoy making sound. I have a friend that bought a 3k mac system. Focal monitors, a 600 dollar Presonus interface. Hasn't made a track in 3yrs. It ain't about what you use.

[Jmax]

I do believe a bit part of the problem is not so much Mac as it is Reason. The graphics need to be updated, period. It seems the graphic configuration just doesn't gel with Macs these days. I'm going to guess that once the graphic issues are resolved in Reason, things will become more stable for the long run. That being said, it should really be the other way around. Windows (the less stable system) should be having all the issues. Where as Mac should be rock solid, always. Very strange.

[joeyluck]

This sounds like BS. And he's a third party repair technician...he's probably screwed over more people
If PCs are so serviceable, why is there even a market for repair technicians? Other than taking advantage of the vulnerable? Why would a repair technician complain about anything that is difficult for the consumer to update and repair? Hmmm...

That's my last computer in the beginning of the video! I had it from 2008 until last year
See my account earlier in this thread. Funny, because actually when my sound card failed, the Apple technician filed it as an NVIDIA recall issue and had the whole logic board replaced for free. And the graphics card was fine and my screen was turning on. Yet they still made it happen. So I have a hard time believing anybody with the actual issue wouldn't receive the repair under the recall.

My most recent experience with Apple was a couple months ago when the company I work for returned a MacBook Pro we bought in Virginia to the Apple store in California where we were working. We found the Air we had already purchased for the project was powerful enough and the Pro wasn't needed. So I took it in to return it and they didn't even open the box to check to see that computer was in it! I actually thought that was odd. We had told them we opened it and installed our software and they just said, "No big deal." Anybody else return something to the Apple Store before?

Maybe the customer service at Apple is inconsistent? Maybe I just consistently get lucky? Maybe the point of this guy's video should be that there are in fact people who have good experiences with any given company, and that's how you get people who will defend it? Versus the way he attempts to make it sound...falsely tying the people who have bad experiences to the ones who defend that company. Or maybe what it comes down to, as is the case in many situations, is the attitude of the customer. I'd go with that.

[bxbrkrz]

I do believe a bit part of the problem is not so much Mac as it is Reason. The graphics need to be updated, period. It seems the graphic configuration just doesn't gel with Macs these days. I'm going to guess that once the graphic issues are resolved in Reason, things will become more stable for the long run. That being said, it should really be the other way around. Windows (the less stable system) should be having all the issues. Where as Mac should be rock solid, always. Very strange.

In this thread's context, Reason is not in the picture. Linus (the context of the thread) is not known to be a Reason user, just based on his youtube videos at least.

"Windows (the less stable system) should be having all the issues". First time I hear about that.

[bxbrkrz]

This sounds like BS. And he's a third party repair technician...he's probably screwed over more people
If PCs are so serviceable, why is there even a market for repair technicians? Other than taking advantage of the vulnerable? Why would a repair technician complain about anything that is difficult for the consumer to update and repair? Hmmm...

That's my last computer in the beginning of the video! I had it from 2008 until last year
See my account earlier in this thread. Funny, because actually when my sound card failed, the Apple technician filed it as an NVIDIA recall issue and had the whole logic board replaced for free. And the graphics card was fine and my screen was turning on. Yet they still made it happen. So I have a hard time believing anybody with the actual issue wouldn't receive the repair under the recall.

My most recent experience with Apple was a couple months ago when the company I work for returned a MacBook Pro we bought in Virginia to the Apple store in California where we were working. We found the Air we had already purchased for the project was powerful enough and the Pro wasn't needed. So I took it in to return it and they didn't even open the box to check to see that computer was in it! I actually thought that was odd. We had told them we opened it and installed our software and they just said, "No big deal." Anybody else return something to the Apple Store before?

Maybe the customer service at Apple is inconsistent? Maybe I just consistently get lucky? Maybe the point of this guy's video should be that there are in fact people who have good experiences with any given company, and that's how you get people who will defend it? Versus the way he attempts to make it sound...falsely tying the people who have bad experiences to the ones who defend that company. Or maybe what it comes down to, as is the case in many situations, is the attitude of the customer. I'd go with that.

And he's a third party repair technician...he's probably screwed over more people

A great and enlighten attitude.

How do you know that? Corporations never lie, but small business do? Your experience was positive. His experience was described in the video. They, the less fortunate Apple believers come to him, after Apple would not fix their machine, or was too expensive for them. I'll assume you did not watch the video. That attitude was also described perfectly well at the beginning of the video.

How does that make him a liar and a cheat, screwing more people than a $900B corporation that makes it impossible to recycle its old tech? Can't give a new life in the hands of less fortunate people. They were born on the wrong continent, on the wrong side of San Fran. "Screw them, probably".

Gimme a A!
Gimme a P!

[joeyluck]

This sounds like BS. And he's a third party repair technician...he's probably screwed over more people
If PCs are so serviceable, why is there even a market for repair technicians? Other than taking advantage of the vulnerable? Why would a repair technician complain about anything that is difficult for the consumer to update and repair? Hmmm...

That's my last computer in the beginning of the video! I had it from 2008 until last year
See my account earlier in this thread. Funny, because actually when my sound card failed, the Apple technician filed it as an NVIDIA recall issue and had the whole logic board replaced for free. And the graphics card was fine and my screen was turning on. Yet they still made it happen. So I have a hard time believing anybody with the actual issue wouldn't receive the repair under the recall.

My most recent experience with Apple was a couple months ago when the company I work for returned a MacBook Pro we bought in Virginia to the Apple store in California where we were working. We found the Air we had already purchased for the project was powerful enough and the Pro wasn't needed. So I took it in to return it and they didn't even open the box to check to see that computer was in it! I actually thought that was odd. We had told them we opened it and installed our software and they just said, "No big deal." Anybody else return something to the Apple Store before?

Maybe the customer service at Apple is inconsistent? Maybe I just consistently get lucky? Maybe the point of this guy's video should be that there are in fact people who have good experiences with any given company, and that's how you get people who will defend it? Versus the way he attempts to make it sound...falsely tying the people who have bad experiences to the ones who defend that company. Or maybe what it comes down to, as is the case in many situations, is the attitude of the customer. I'd go with that.

And he's a third party repair technician...he's probably screwed over more people

A great and enlighten attitude.

How do you know that? Corporations never lie, but small business do? Your experience was positive. His experience was described in the video. They, the less fortunate Apple believers come to him, after Apple would not fix their machine, or was too expensive for them. I'll assume you did not watch the video. That attitude was also described perfectly well at the beginning of the video.

How does that make him a liar and a cheat, screwing more people than a $900B corporation that makes it impossible to recycle its old tech? Can't give a new life in the hands of less fortunate people. They were born on the wrong continent, on the wrong side of San Fran. "Screw them, probably".

Gimme a A!
Gimme a P!

It was actually the beginning of the video...where he claims that those who are screwed over are the ones who defend the company. And then goes on about a recall issue regarding a product I owned which the company used that recall to repair something unrelated in my computer. He just sounds bitter and he's the one putting negative energy into making a video about his biases. I did watch the video and his attempt to convince me Apple is getting away with murder (in his words).

I was more over just joking since everyone isn't really screwed over anywhere until the repair stage...mechanic, doctor, computer, etc. lol But based on his attitude, I'll stick with my guess. But again, if one of the arguments is for easily serviceable products, why the need for a repair technician?

[bxbrkrz]

Are we really in the age of total trust of a corporation producing phones, and Chinese workers killing themselves? if you get that triggered by the start of the video, or being remembered they had to install nets around factories to catches jumpers while making your next ultra retina phones, fast forward a bit and watch the whole thing next time. Until the very end, if you can or want to.

Nah. You won't.

[joeyluck]

Are we really in the age of total trust of a corporation producing phones, and Chinese workers killing themselves? if you get that triggered by the start of the video, or being remembered they had to install nets around factories to catches jumpers while making your next ultra retina phones, fast forward a bit and watch the whole thing next time. Until the very end, if you can or want to.

Nah. You won't.

Not at all. Again, this has to do with the premise of this video; claiming that those who are screwed over and over by a company are the ones who will defend it. If he wants to make an anti-Apple video, he could do a better job of just talking about the cons of the company rather than attempting to make the claims he makes about its customers.

[bxbrkrz]

Are we really in the age of total trust of a corporation producing phones, and Chinese workers killing themselves? if you get that triggered by the start of the video, or being remembered they had to install nets around factories to catches jumpers while making your next ultra retina phones, fast forward a bit and watch the whole thing next time. Until the very end, if you can or want to.

Nah. You won't.

Not at all. Again, this has to do with the premise of this video; claiming that those who are screwed over and over by a company are the ones who will defend it. If he wants to make an anti-Apple video, he could do a better job of just talking about the cons of the company rather than attempting to make the claims he makes about its customers.

But, that's 100% true. PC users are not the ones defending Apple. When he fixes an apple machine, they leave happy with their apple machine.
Will you watch the whole video until the end one day? It does not have to be today or tomorrow. Until the end (hint: until.the.end.) it will reduce the amount of replies.
I used to own multiple Apple product. My 2012 iPad is still working and there is nothing wrong with it, based on my experience. It will be sad if I call anyone with a bad iPad experience liars and frauds.

[joeyluck]

Not at all. Again, this has to do with the premise of this video; claiming that those who are screwed over and over by a company are the ones who will defend it. If he wants to make an anti-Apple video, he could do a better job of just talking about the cons of the company rather than attempting to make the claims he makes about its customers.

But, that's 100% true. PC users are not the ones defending Apple. When he fixes an apple machine, they leave happy with their apple machine.
Will you watch the whole video until the end one day? It does not have to be today or tomorrow. Until the end (hint: until.the.end.) it will reduce the amount of replies.
I used to own multiple Apple product. My 2012 iPad is still working and there is nothing wrong with it, based on my experience. It will be sad if I call anyone with a bad iPad experience liars and frauds.

I did. And nobody is calling anybody with bad experiences frauds. But this guy is making blanket statements and claims about Apple customers in his attempt to persuade people with alternatives simply because he doesn't like Apple. Watch his other videos. I watched this one plus more. He's pretty decided and biased and bitter.

I've only owned three Apple products: The 2001 G4 Cube, 2008 MacBook Pro, and 2017 MacBook Air. I haven't owned any iOS devices, but my employers have iPads that I use here and there. I'm not big into any Apple iPhone hype and yeah I find it annoying when my Facebook news feed is cluttered with friends talking about getting the new iPhone, when they just got the last version.

I'm certainly not an Apple vs. Windows PC type person. I say use what works for you. What I don't like about Windows, somebody else likes and vice versa. People just need to decide for themselves to move on if you have been let down or feel mistreated. I trust people to do that. I'll show you what I like about Macs and macOS, but trying to persuade you away from Windows by citing examples you haven't experienced? Pointless. I don't know anybody, when faced with bad experiences, hasn't given up on iPhone or their Android phone or Windows phone (or most any product) and made the switch. And just because I don't like Windows, and I've had bad experiences, I'm not making videos claiming that anybody using Windows must like being tortured because of my perception...and the millions of things I could cite from online sources, having to go back 10 years and more, to compile a 25 minute video.

[bxbrkrz]

But, that's 100% true. PC users are not the ones defending Apple. When he fixes an apple machine, they leave happy with their apple machine.
Will you watch the whole video until the end one day? It does not have to be today or tomorrow. Until the end (hint: until.the.end.) it will reduce the amount of replies.
I used to own multiple Apple product. My 2012 iPad is still working and there is nothing wrong with it, based on my experience. It will be sad if I call anyone with a bad iPad experience liars and frauds.

I did. And nobody is calling anybody with bad experiences frauds. But this guy is making blanket statements and claims about Apple customers in his attempt to persuade people with alternatives simply because he doesn't like Apple. Watch his other videos. I watched this one plus more. He's pretty decided and biased and bitter.

I've only owned three Apple products: The 2001 G4 Cube, 2008 MacBook Pro, and 2017 MacBook Air. I haven't owned any iOS devices, but my employers have iPads that I use here and there. I'm not big into any Apple iPhone hype and yeah I find it annoying when my Facebook news feed is cluttered with friends talking about getting the new iPhone, when they just got the last version.

I'm certainly not an Apple vs. Windows PC type person. I say use what works for you. What I don't like about Windows, somebody else likes and vice versa. People just need to decide for themselves to move on if you have been let down or feel mistreated. I trust people to do that. I'll show you what I like about Macs and macOS, but trying to persuade you away from Windows by citing examples you haven't experienced? Pointless. I don't know anybody, when faced with bad experiences, hasn't given up on iPhone or their Android phone or Windows phone (or most any product) and made the switch. And just because I don't like Windows, and I've had bad experiences, I'm not making videos claiming that anybody using Windows must like being tortured because of my perception...and the millions of things I could cite from online sources, having to go back 10 years and more, to compile a 25 minute video.

Is he really screwing up his clients in purpose? Yes or no?
So do it. Do the video. 25 minutes you said..
He does. All the time, sometime live repair (pc, mac, whatever) on youtube. Pretty amazing. Open. He explains everything. Check his channel.

I use the product that use less deaths from overworking poor people killing themselves. Cute retina screen. Only 11 suicides. Yeah!.

He is a good man, from the perspective of a great tech who started at the Power Station (NY). He's not just an Apple bashing pctroll..

[joeyluck]

I'm not making videos claiming that anybody using Windows must like being tortured because of my perception...and the millions of things I could cite from online sources, having to go back 10 years and more, to compile a 25 minute video.

So do it. Do the video. 25 minutes you said..

The point was that I wouldn't do that. The Internet is full of bad customer experiences for just about every product. Maybe make a general video of, "Hey you, if you personally have any bad experience as a customer of any company, weigh the options and maybe consider alternatives?"

You think if I made a video easily citing bad customer experiences of Microsoft/Windows over the past couple decades to persuade people away from Microsoft and say that those with bad experiences seem to be loyal to the company and like getting screwed and here are some other options... You think that would come across as me just looking out for everyone? You don't think that would come across as Microsoft bashing? You don't think that would be perceived as Apple vs. Windows?

[bxbrkrz]

Microsoft is not a religion nor a culture. We (PC users) never had to "love" a father figure. Bill Gates is not a sexy character. There was never a TV spot with images of "1984" against IBM, the "enemy", the "Them" against "Us" mentality. The machines (PC) were never sexy, the graphics looks like shit and you were on your own dealing with IRQs and other nightmares from the pre dawn of World PC Domination. This made us, PC users, much better and smarter computer consumers. The Wild Wild West helps us build a better immune system from blocking cheap propaganda. Choices. Freedom. How long before Google turns a smart phone into a contact lens? Apple Car? Apple Hololens? Apple's innovations died with Steve Jobs.

Your mindset always resets to an Apple Vs Windows world. PC user do not care about Apple. Windows 7, VS W8, W10. Microsoft spying on your machine. 10000s of PC users bashing Windows all the time on youtube, reddit, etc. Where have you been? There is a world beyond the Apple bubble. PC users are not afraid of Microsoft. We are happy to use Linux if our favorite GPUs, games, apps etc run on it. Drivers not ready yet? No one cares about Vulkan yet? OK so we use Microsoft right now. We are not in love with Windows, but we love our PC. Anyone in the world can afford a PC, from Haiti to Zimbabwe. You can build it when you have the money, piece by piece. The PC is the most democratic hardware platform in the world. Apple is a Social Club for the Kale Eating Prius Driving Bourgeoisie.

Now you call a good man (yes, he is) a liar and screwing with his customers, probably. How do you know that again?

[selig]

Microsoft is not a religion nor a culture. We (PC users) never had to "love" a father figure. Bill Gates is not a sexy character. There was never a TV spot with images of "1984" against IBM, the "enemy", the "Them" against "Us" mentality. The machines (PC) were never sexy, the graphics looks like shit and you were on your own dealing with IRQs and other nightmares from the pre dawn of World PC Domination. This made us, PC users, much better and smarter computer consumers. The Wild Wild West helps us build a better immune system from blocking cheap propaganda. Choices. Freedom. How long before Google turns a smart phone into a contact lens? Apple Car? Apple Hololens? Apple's innovations died with Steve Jobs.

Your mindset always resets to an Apple Vs Windows world. PC user do not care about Apple. Windows 7, VS W8, W10. Microsoft spying on your machine. 10000s of PC users bashing Windows all the time on youtube, reddit, etc. Where have you been? There is a world beyond the Apple bubble. PC users are not afraid of Microsoft. We are happy to use Linux if our favorite GPUs, games, apps etc run on it. Drivers not ready yet? No one cares about Vulkan yet? OK so we use Microsoft right now. We are not in love with Windows, but we love our PC. Anyone in the world can afford a PC, from Haiti to Zimbabwe. You can build it when you have the money, piece by piece. The PC is the most democratic hardware platform in the world. Apple is a Social Club for the Kale Eating Prius Driving Bourgeoisie.

Now you call a good man (yes, he is) a liar and screwing with his customers, probably. How do you know that again?

Come on guys, this is getting silly. I’m an Apple user and I don’t identify with any of your view of apple users. Neither can I identify with your view of PC users. We use the tools we choose, and we all get our work done.

As for the video in question: If you know this man personally, and have a close relationship with him, then you may well have a point (and the high ground). If you don’t, then let’s all move on and leave the name calling out of this forum. I’m guessing neither of you two know this man personally, so I can’t for the life of me figure out what’s motivating the conversation at this point.

Maybe time for a thread lock? Anyone else feeling that way?


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[Jmax]

Apologies for going over board with this Mac PC business.

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[bxbrkrz]

Microsoft is not a religion nor a culture. We (PC users) never had to "love" a father figure. Bill Gates is not a sexy character. There was never a TV spot with images of "1984" against IBM, the "enemy", the "Them" against "Us" mentality. The machines (PC) were never sexy, the graphics looks like shit and you were on your own dealing with IRQs and other nightmares from the pre dawn of World PC Domination. This made us, PC users, much better and smarter computer consumers. The Wild Wild West helps us build a better immune system from blocking cheap propaganda. Choices. Freedom. How long before Google turns a smart phone into a contact lens? Apple Car? Apple Hololens? Apple's innovations died with Steve Jobs.

Your mindset always resets to an Apple Vs Windows world. PC user do not care about Apple. Windows 7, VS W8, W10. Microsoft spying on your machine. 10000s of PC users bashing Windows all the time on youtube, reddit, etc. Where have you been? There is a world beyond the Apple bubble. PC users are not afraid of Microsoft. We are happy to use Linux if our favorite GPUs, games, apps etc run on it. Drivers not ready yet? No one cares about Vulkan yet? OK so we use Microsoft right now. We are not in love with Windows, but we love our PC. Anyone in the world can afford a PC, from Haiti to Zimbabwe. You can build it when you have the money, piece by piece. The PC is the most democratic hardware platform in the world. Apple is a Social Club for the Kale Eating Prius Driving Bourgeoisie.

Now you call a good man (yes, he is) a liar and screwing with his customers, probably. How do you know that again?

Come on guys, this is getting silly. I’m an Apple user and I don’t identify with any of your view of apple users. Neither can I identify with your view of PC users. We use the tools we choose, and we all get our work done.

As for the video in question: If you know this man personally, and have a close relationship with him, then you may well have a point (and the high ground). If you don’t, then let’s all move on and leave the name calling out of this forum. I’m guessing neither of you two know this man personally, so I can’t for the life of me figure out what’s motivating the conversation at this point.

Maybe time for a thread lock? Anyone else feeling that way?


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I do not have to know someone personally to defend his or her character on a forum. Youtube dude is a cool and talented guy who started at the Power Station as a tech when he was young. He represents a bit of what tekserve used to be https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/nyre ... years.html
They saved my friends a couple of times back in the days.
If you feel locking the thread is an emergency because adults can't have a simple back and forth, it is up to you. I was respectful and the admin in question was also very respectful to me. We don't have the same culture so I have to learn what is or not admissible in this sphere. There was zero personal attacks. I exchanged with him in the past and will in the future. Why should he or anyone else be offended?

I adapt to you (your forum, your culture). You are the law.

[esselfortium]

Come to think of it I don't know macs at all. Question I got are:
Do macs run on AMD?
Can you build macs?
Can you use a different mobo or repair it yourself if you use a mac?
All these I do not know, when it comes to macs.

It’s not officially supported or condoned, but you can build a Mac! The basic hardware isn’t as proprietary as it used to be decades ago, and there are communities online dedicated to cataloguing what parts are compatible and creating patches where needed to make them work. Setting it up and maintaining it (i.e. running OS updates) is a more technical and involved process than on prebuilt Macs or on Windows machines, but I’ve been using a custom-built Mac since 2015 and it’s been stable and quite fast.

In the past, Apple has sold official Macs with swappable hardware, and I believe they’re planning on doing that again within the next year for an upcoming Mac Pro. I’m happy about that, as the no-internal-expansion nonsense was a really crummy trend.

[Oquasec]

Oh. Didn't do much research since my build doesn't even support that architecture.

[O1B]

There's been an obvious agenda since the OP.
Any dissent is met with passive-aggressive banter.

... and now we're on page three.
BY^E%HT%Y hates Apple. I get it.
( No - i dont hate apple - blah blah blah)

This serves no purpose except to form some circle jerk with Feldman and a bunch of PCs.

[selig]

I do not have to know someone personally to defend his or her character on a forum. Youtube dude is a cool and talented guy who started at the Power Station as a tech when he was young. He represents a bit of what tekserve used to be https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/nyre ... years.html
They saved my friends a couple of times back in the days.
If you feel locking the thread is an emergency because adults can't have a simple back and forth, it is up to you. I was respectful and the admin in question was also very respectful to me. We don't have the same culture so I have to learn what is or not admissible in this sphere. There was zero personal attacks. I exchanged with him in the past and will in the future. Why should he or anyone else be offended?

I adapt to you (your forum, your culture). You are the law.

Sure,another nuclear Mac vs PC thread is going to end well...
Your “us against them” rant, criticizing a “them against us” mentality is ironic.
Your claim to “know” someone from the internet while dismissing someone else’s ability to do the same is disingenuous.
Calling Apple users (myself included) “Kale Eating Prius Driving Bourgeoisie” is literal name calling, and I can only assume it was intended as an insult?

It’s not about anyone being offended, I’m asking if others see value in this thread continuing in this direction. Not laying down law, trying to either get things back on track or explore other options. If everyone here want’s more of this, then so be it - let it roll.



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[bxbrkrz]

I do not have to know someone personally to defend his or her character on a forum. Youtube dude is a cool and talented guy who started at the Power Station as a tech when he was young. He represents a bit of what tekserve used to be https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/nyre ... years.html
They saved my friends a couple of times back in the days.
If you feel locking the thread is an emergency because adults can't have a simple back and forth, it is up to you. I was respectful and the admin in question was also very respectful to me. We don't have the same culture so I have to learn what is or not admissible in this sphere. There was zero personal attacks. I exchanged with him in the past and will in the future. Why should he or anyone else be offended?

I adapt to you (your forum, your culture). You are the law.

Sure,another nuclear Mac vs PC thread is going to end well...
Your “us against them” rant, criticizing a “them against us” mentality is ironic.
Your claim to “know” someone from the internet while dismissing someone else’s ability to do the same is disingenuous.
Calling Apple users (myself included) “Kale Eating Prius Driving Bourgeoisie” is literal name calling, and I can only assume it was intended as an insult?

It’s not about anyone being offended, I’m asking if others see value in this thread continuing in this direction. Not laying down law, trying to either get things back on track or explore other options. If everyone here want’s more of this, then so be it - let it roll.



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I just hope I can reply to you without the drama.

No irony.
That was what the "1984" commercial was about, what I was describing. It was about "Them" Vs "Us". It was a genius commercial. Made me buy a couple of Powerbooks and my lovely Mac Classic back then. It was about class warfare, first, but most people thought it was about Big Brother (Big Blue is IBM's nickname). It was about breaking the conditioning.

Disingenuous.
I don't have the power of mind reading. I am not a medium. I only go by proof of work. He presented himself. I watched his videos. He has always been the same. The lawyers from a company adored across the world scared him a couple times to make him stop. So I do not pretend to know somebody on the internet, but I KNOW he is not screwing up his customers. Saying that someone is purposely screwing up his customers on an open forum... Isn't this slanderous?
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Kale Eating Prius Driving Bourgeoisie
I am a black bourgeois. I know people who love their Prius. Kale (and my Blendtec Classic) helped me lose lots of weight.

[joeyluck]

I had made a joke in response to that guy making a false claim about Apple products and customers. About a repair technician whose purpose should be to repair things that the end user can't repair themselves. But watch his videos. Just search his channel for "customer" and that might give you enough. And watch how much time he spends ranting and how much disrespect he has for so many of his customers; recounting stories, mocking them, calling them retards. No, this is not someone who I would trust to bring my computer to. And sure has heck not an Apple computer.

I've had customers in many different fields and I have respect and appreciation for them all.

I think the conversation here has been fine. I haven't seen a problem. I thought the last comments about Apple customers was a bit much. I would like to know what happens with Linus' iMac Pro.

[O1B]

Me, too.

Its a nightmare situation, indeed.

I thought the last comments about Apple customers was a bit much. I would like to know what happens with Linus' iMac Pro.

No 'Unite the Right against Apple' Movement needed.

[bxbrkrz]

I am glad the conversation, the right to repair, can go on.