Reveal Sound ReSpire in the shop x $59 !!

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09 May 2017

O1B wrote:Ill try the synth when it's working properly.
I mean, There are bugs.... and, then there's this $59 "bargain"
I'll wait. Sorry, you didn't. But, I'm sure you have 'no regrets, and would do it again.'

'Enemy behind every corner.....'. Remove to the tin foil hat, my good man.
chk071 wrote:No idea what you mean. But if you don't like no-brainers, your loss. :P Maybe you want to chime in here instead, and believe the enemy is behind every corner: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=7500540
How is a avoiding a broken, mistuned synth a loss? You must make interesting music.
What i don't get is why you think i wanted to "mug" someone. That's everything. I just happen to like the synth, very much. I have no idea how the RE is though. I only know the VST. Claiming i wanted to "mug" someone is sort of like saying i am a shill. Believe me, i am not. $59 is such a no-brainer price for this synth, that i just wanted to express that not getting it for that price is crazy, because it surely will be much more expensive aftert he introduction. It's $189 for the VST. Just saying.
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09 May 2017

Anyone heard when this thing may be back in the shop?

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09 May 2017

miscend wrote:Anyone heard when this thing may be back in the shop?
Well hopefully not too long from now. They didn't have me agree to an NDA of any sort, so I'll just mention that the current test build they finally sent me is running rock solid and seems to have addressed many of the initial issues that plagued the version that hit the shop.

That said, the statement "hopefully not too long" generally means "I have no freak'n clue" in this case. :redface:
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09 May 2017

i'm still using the "broken" build *shrugs* works fine

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09 May 2017

EnochLight wrote:
miscend wrote:Anyone heard when this thing may be back in the shop?
Well hopefully not too long from now. They didn't have me agree to an NDA of any sort, so I'll just mention that the current test build they finally sent me is running rock solid and seems to have addressed many of the initial issues that plagued the version that hit the shop.

That said, the statement "hopefully not too long" generally means "I have no freak'n clue" in this case. :redface:
Can you make sure they address the concerns about the modulation menus and the CV stuff.

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09 May 2017

I have spent about 2 hours with the VST demo and now my Reason rack won't feel complete until I get the RE.

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miscend wrote:Can you make sure they address the concerns about the modulation menus and the CV stuff.
Absolutely, though they may consider those "feature requests" as opposed to "must-fix bugs in order to release in the shop". But I will absolutely go to bat for ya'all! ;)
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09 May 2017

Well I hope they re-release again with a few of these features missing! That way we can hopefully get the discounted $59 price!

If we push our luck and ask for the all singing and dancing Rolls Royce version we may ende up paying top dollar on release and then there'll be even more complaints!... We're never happy lol!

(I'd like to think they'd stay true to their word and keep the intro price until end of May which is what they said on Facebook!).

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Iggster wrote:(I'd like to think they'd stay true to their word and keep the intro price until end of May which is what they said on Facebook!).
I hope they finish fixing enough bugs to release it before the end of May! ;)
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09 May 2017

It'll kill me if I have to wait until then!... I had things on this weekend so didn't even get the trial downloaded never mind bought it!

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09 May 2017

It's all good, Dude. I just saw the
'buy or you're a "****"' and felt I should retort. You do get that rushing to buy something completely broken can't be very helpful? - unless youre an antique collector.

This was a very surreal release.
chk071 wrote:
O1B wrote:Ill try the synth when it's working properly.
I mean, There are bugs.... and, then there's this $59 "bargain"
I'll wait. Sorry, you didn't. But, I'm sure you have 'no regrets, and would do it again.'

'Enemy behind every corner.....'. Remove to the tin foil hat, my good man.
chk071 wrote:No idea what you mean. But if you don't like no-brainers, your loss. :P Maybe you want to chime in here instead, and believe the enemy is behind every corner: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=7500540
How is a avoiding a broken, mistuned synth a loss? You must make interesting music.
What i don't get is why you think i wanted to "mug" someone. That's everything. I just happen to like the synth, very much. I have no idea how the RE is though. I only know the VST. Claiming i wanted to "mug" someone is sort of like saying i am a shill. Believe me, i am not. $59 is such a no-brainer price for this synth, that i just wanted to express that not getting it for that price is crazy, because it surely will be much more expensive aftert he introduction. It's $189 for the VST. Just saying.
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09 May 2017

Hi All from RS dev team,

we use SDK 2.2.0_35 and test ReSpire under 8.2. Because of some limitaions in SDK some lists are not so user friendly as we want, be migration to the next version will require Reson 9. So, we try to implement all VST GUI functionality using SDK 2.2.0 capabilities.
Currently we are working on CPU usage optimisation and adding more CV sockets.
Because of some critical issue, found after announcing, we were removed from Reason store, but we hope version with fixes will appear soon!

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reveal_sound wrote:Hi All from RS dev team,

we use SDK 2.2.0_35 and test ReSpire under 8.2. Because of some limitaions in SDK some lists are not so user friendly as we want, be migration to the next version will require Reson 9. So, we try to implement all VST GUI functionality using SDK 2.2.0 capabilities.
Currently we are working on CPU usage optimisation and adding more CV sockets.
Because of some critical issue, found after announcing, we were removed from Reason store, but we hope version with fixes will appear soon!
Greeting RS dev team,

Thanks for chiming in to your official thread! ;) Good to know Spire RE was made on SDK 2.2.0_35, but strongly suggest you consider moving to SDK 2.5 (in the future) to utilize nested menus and a variety of other improvements (including changeable panels). It might be helpful to know that (according to forum polls) 75% of users are on Reason 9.x these days, so making this for Reason 7.x-8.x users doesn't have many advantages, IMHO (especially seeing as how 9.5 may convince more to upgrade to 9 anyway). Just a thought!

Source: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7499417
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reveal_sound wrote:Hi All from RS dev team,
we are working on CPU usage optimisation and adding more CV sockets.

Take your time, Mr. reveal_sound

there is no doubt that this synth will be a a must have RE

I still try the preview version and it sounds great

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09 May 2017

Sounds good to me. Definitely looking forward to trying it.
reveal_sound wrote:Hi All from RS dev team,

we use SDK 2.2.0_35 and test ReSpire under 8.2. Because of some limitaions in SDK some lists are not so user friendly as we want, be migration to the next version will require Reson 9. So, we try to implement all VST GUI functionality using SDK 2.2.0 capabilities.
Currently we are working on CPU usage optimisation and adding more CV sockets.
Because of some critical issue, found after announcing, we were removed from Reason store, but we hope version with fixes will appear soon!

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EnochLight wrote:
Greeting RS dev team,
It might be helpful to know that (according to forum polls) 75% of users are on Reason 9.x these days, so making this for Reason 7.x-8.x users doesn't have many advantages,
then again some % of that have not upgraded because of lack of money and therefore wont be buying RE's that cost around the same as an upgrade :question:

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reveal_sound wrote:Hi All from RS dev team,

we use SDK 2.2.0_35 and test ReSpire under 8.2. Because of some limitaions in SDK some lists are not so user friendly as we want, be migration to the next version will require Reson 9. So, we try to implement all VST GUI functionality using SDK 2.2.0 capabilities.
Currently we are working on CPU usage optimisation and adding more CV sockets.
Because of some critical issue, found after announcing, we were removed from Reason store, but we hope version with fixes will appear soon!
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09 May 2017

reveal_sound wrote:Hi All from RS dev team,

we use SDK 2.2.0_35 and test ReSpire under 8.2. Because of some limitaions in SDK some lists are not so user friendly as we want, be migration to the next version will require Reson 9. So, we try to implement all VST GUI functionality using SDK 2.2.0 capabilities.
Currently we are working on CPU usage optimisation and adding more CV sockets.
Because of some critical issue, found after announcing, we were removed from Reason store, but we hope version with fixes will appear soon!
Keep up the awesome work Reveal Sound! You're doing a stellar job! SDK 2.5 is definitely the way to go! Thanks for getting Spire into Reason

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10 May 2017

selig wrote:
stratatonic wrote:
selig wrote:
ReasonUser wrote:I thought the props have a meticulous approval process?

Perhaps more than one company dropped the ball here...
If the Props had a magic bug fixer, they would be using it for sure. But all they can check for is to be sure you're following the rules they set. :)
I'm sure that I have read posts from devs saying that they submitted their device and were now waiting for approval by Propellerhead. Don't they do a real world check of product before launch? The ReSpire muckup sounds like it could have been detected by the Props secretary in the front office.
Doesn't anyone have the time to run through a few probable scenarios that users would likely be doing? It's not like there are a couple hundred devices launched each day! A couple a week at most.

But they simply cannot run a beta test for a month on every device before releasing it ...
...- there's often a wait in the approval process as it is, and I'm not sure anyone here is ready to advocate for a LONGER approval process for ALL REs just to catch the occasional bad bug that escapes a developer.
:)
Ok, but in this case, problems were discovered in minutes by forum members and the RE was pulled in a couple of hours. That's what I mean about doing a run through doing common things. They have standards to uphold. It just looks bad. It could have easily been avoided.

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14 May 2017

Torn between waiting for Spire or buying Expanse whilst its on sale. I guess that means if Spire doesn't come back up in the shop by May 20 then Ill go for Expanse.

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14 May 2017

I own the VST version but would like to get the RE version, not least to show continued support for the RE format, and for Reason itself.
I hope the sale price continues once the fixed version arrives back in the shop.
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Hello Reveal Sound, my only GUI implementation I would like is that dark theme, maybe even by the 2.5 SDK update.
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