Nobara41, Reason, and the old RE Authorizer...

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Re8et
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Hi all. This is a general question I've been wondering about for a while...

I have installed Nobara41, which is a KDE Linux port, highly customized in order to run PC games and .exe windows
programs in general... it uses a system wide Wine preconfig that take care of downloading and installing the required
windows patches line .NET or DirectX for .exe to work...

other advantages Linux has, it can use Firewire interfaces from the Stone Age without problems, and all USB class compliants interfaces also... no need to update drivers or sign them like in windows and Mac OS...

I recently re-installed Win XP 32 bit on my old laptop and I had to hack the hell out of everything to make it work...
If Reason was made to work with Linux back then, today we could use the same version without zero hassle to go through... We just need ONE Reason version coded to work with Linux...
My Mac OS is already locked in to Ventura or else 90% of the softwares and drivers will stop working...

Now Reason...
I Believe Reason 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10... should work without many problems...

Reason 11 and 12... already has massive changes and have more complicated libraries and dependancies to go through, but still uses the old Rack Extension .exe that has now been cutoff and replaced...

So the problem to make Reason 10 work with a fresh install, and update it with all the latest RE in your library, is at the very least, a shared problem for both Window users, and Linux-wine users...

Reason 13 could work out of the box on Nobara41?
Nobara doesn't blocks some third party loggers by default, it's just that... they are not built to work on Linux...
And here it comes the new Reason 13 online updater in play....
I haven't tried to install it, but it's a thing, as I don't like windows 11, and Windows 10 is pushing updates
even if my W10 PC has no WI-FI and the Ethernet cable is disconnected... :shock:
Nobara41 works so well I am using it nowmore than Win 10 and Mac OS Ventura combined...
The day of mass migration from windows is coming closer for many...

PS: GloriousEggroll Discord Channel is very Anti-piracy focused. Have a chat there to find out...

This ultimately comes to the Devs...
Even as an experiment, having Reason working stable in a Linux environment could be a massive
incentive in moving past Windows... We already have Reason as a plug in.... and tons of free Linux DAWS....
like Carla, LMMS, and Bitwig (not free).

Will we see a EuroPi running Europa plug-in in the near future???

I know I updated to Reason 13 recently, but I still have Reason 10 installed offline on my main live-laptop...
and have no desire to ever update it... and even if I wanted, I could not because the old RE updater has been discontinued... What If I needed to reinstall it fresh bc my main SSD died???
I think we should be eligible for a complete re-install and update to its last working state...

I'd like to experiment and install Reason 10 fresh on Nobara41, with the old RE updater/Authorizer.
How do I do that???? :re: :reason: :refill: :puf_unhappy:

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Well, Reason kind of works with wine: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... &iId=42495

Sadly there are still some long standing bugs in wine like the menu not working properly, that had a patch available some years ago, but which was never merged (see bug 10845).

But as Reason should be mostly on a LLVM toolchain by now, creating a linux port would not be as much work for RS today in comparison to a few years ago.

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jam-s wrote:
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Well, Reason kind of works with wine: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... &iId=42495

Sadly there are still some long standing bugs in wine like the menu not working properly, that had a patch available some years ago, but which was never merged (see bug 10845).

But as Reason should be mostly on a LLVM toolchain by now, creating a linux port would not be as much work for RS today in comparison to a few years ago.
Nobara41 has also some problems with old windows texts inside apps. Application menu not working correctly from Reason 5.0 to 13.0 is quite alarming... there is a possibility that however the way Nobara41 uses the Wayland video interface, could solve the issue.
For contrast is harder to run a Win 32bit XP App than an up to date x64. Way harder. All old 32bit apps used massively text based messages, preferences, etc. So default Wine doesn't always work OotBox. Switch Wayland and some things now works.
It has been a hit and miss, and Nobara devs also try to find specific fixes for specific applications so even old DOS games can be played without issues. Nobara41 is quite exceptionally way different from any other standard Linux Disthros...
Wine can work system wide by default, but apps can also be installed inside a container (Lutris is for games in theory) that create a complete Win-Wine system dir, tailored for that one App/game/whatever.exe :thumbup: but it's not easier than using the default System wide Wine. You'll have to reconfigure it manually...

The Wine HQ link doesn't have Cardinal Disthro under Music players, and also does not have https://kx.studio/Repositories and only a generic Nobara... so there are chances, it hasn't been tested in the latest Nobara41 environment... :puf_smile:

Hopefully RS likes to game sometime also ;)

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There should come a linux distro, special made for DAW's. And every DAW should work with this distro, so we are free from Microsoft and Apple!

Since it is not here yet, I changed platform: nowadays I make 99% of my music with the Akai Force..... LInux based by the way......
Greetings from Miyaru.
Akai Force, Reason12, Live Suit 10, Push2, Presonus Eris E8 and Monitor Station V2, Lexicon MPX1,
Korg N1, Yamaha RM1x :thumbup:

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