The UFO Thread

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Sol Foundation stuff: Garry Nolan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Nolan) ,

Christopher Mellon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Mellon) ,

David Grusch(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gru ... wer_claims) and more:

https://www.youtube.com/@_SolFoundation/videos

In case their wikis get 'edited'
https://thesolfoundation.org/people/

And Godspeed to Chris

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Now what's happening here with Chris??

1:43:30

https://www.youtube.com/live/NthjnAM_EW ... OAVXUUgYYi

Chris Lehto
11 hours ago
Hello I hope you are having a great week.

I’m back home finally after two weeks in a psychiatric ward! I can undoubtedly relate more to those of you experiencers out there of having a profound experience and people not believing it happened.
The theory still stands and will continue to explain and predict natural phenomena.
I want to thank Danny, the Project Hessdalen team, and the UAP society mod squad for their support.
I will start to publish again hopefully next week, but they have me on meds that make it difficult to focus at the moment. We’ll get there, though. Thank you for your support and guidance! It makes this trek worthwhile and rewarding.
I have two speeds only, afterburner or idle, so I am idling for another week, but rest assured, the missile is still on track and guiding to the target:)
I got in a great surf on my first day back and am already feeling better.
Take care, and see you online soonest.
All the best,
Chris

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxv5WQvo ... f0iIzfUA-n

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Something to consider (or not?):
https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12326-you_v ... _by_psyops

Yes.

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Now what's happening here with Chris??

1:43:30

https://www.youtube.com/live/NthjnAM_EW ... OAVXUUgYYi

Chris Lehto
11 hours ago
Hello I hope you are having a great week.

I’m back home finally after two weeks in a psychiatric ward! I can undoubtedly relate more to those of you experiencers out there of having a profound experience and people not believing it happened.
The theory still stands and will continue to explain and predict natural phenomena.
I want to thank Danny, the Project Hessdalen team, and the UAP society mod squad for their support.
I will start to publish again hopefully next week, but they have me on meds that make it difficult to focus at the moment. We’ll get there, though. Thank you for your support and guidance! It makes this trek worthwhile and rewarding.
I have two speeds only, afterburner or idle, so I am idling for another week, but rest assured, the missile is still on track and guiding to the target:)
I got in a great surf on my first day back and am already feeling better.
Take care, and see you online soonest.
All the best,
Chris

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxv5WQvo ... f0iIzfUA-n

Yes I saw that, good that he had people around to support him!
He mentioned at some point that he didn't sleep much, and that's a warning sign which in itself can trigger problems.
Sometimes all you need is sleep, and maybe some vacation from the rabbit hole of your choice.

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Chris Lehto
11 hours ago
Hello I hope you are having a great week.

I’m back home finally after two weeks in a psychiatric ward! I can undoubtedly relate more to those of you experiencers out there of having a profound experience and people not believing it happened.
The theory still stands and will continue to explain and predict natural phenomena.
I want to thank Danny, the Project Hessdalen team, and the UAP society mod squad for their support.
I will start to publish again hopefully next week, but they have me on meds that make it difficult to focus at the moment. We’ll get there, though. Thank you for your support and guidance! It makes this trek worthwhile and rewarding.
I have two speeds only, afterburner or idle, so I am idling for another week, but rest assured, the missile is still on track and guiding to the target:)
I got in a great surf on my first day back and am already feeling better.
Take care, and see you online soonest.
All the best,
Chris

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxv5WQvo ... f0iIzfUA-n

Yes I saw that, good that he had people around to support him!
He mentioned at some point that he didn't sleep much, and that's a warning sign which in itself can trigger problems.
Sometimes all you need is sleep, and maybe some vacation from the rabbit hole of your choice.

You knew something was off though. Perceptive indeed.

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1. All these people, without any history of mental disease that would discredit their testimonies, having UAP experiences: Ockam's razor just doesn't cut it.
2. But then again, all these reports, and zero hard indisputable evidence: It makes no sense. Impossible.

So assuming human logic is applicable, this makes no sense - at all - whatever side you're on.
So I'm starting to think that the human logic and our often implicit assumptions of the reality we experience is the culprit.

We're missing some crucial information here to grasp this. Or even the theoretical ability to comprehend what's going on.
There's solace in focusing on what we can understand and reason about, and leave the rest to our future evolved species, or afterlife, or whatever or even never.

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1. All these people, without any history of mental disease that would discredit their testimonies, having UAP experiences: Ockam's razor just doesn't cut it.
2. But then again, all these reports, and zero hard indisputable evidence: It makes no sense. Impossible.

So assuming human logic is applicable, this makes no sense - at all - whatever side you're on.
So I'm starting to think that the human logic and our often implicit assumptions of the reality we experience is the culprit.

We're missing some crucial information here to grasp this. Or even the theoretical ability to comprehend what's going on.
There's solace in focusing on what we can understand and reason about, and leave the rest to our future evolved species, or afterlife, or whatever or even never.

Here is the blended abstract representation of probabilities and improbabilities in a state of superposition, incorporating both standard and 11th dimensions. This image combines lower-dimensional geometric forms with higher-dimensional shapes, creating a fluid and multidimensional sense of uncertainty. The gradients of color and intricate background patterns enhance the concept of superposition across different dimensions. Enjoy exploring this unified visual concept!

I see 4 original Reason logos. Could be pareidolia, or...getting 4 Reason licenses unlock the secret of Reality.

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I invited two guests for a discussion with each other on UAP experiences, please welcome Claude 3.5 & ChatGPT 4o.

Link to full discussion:
https://chatgpt.com/share/d346d8a5-6d3e ... cd2c6270dd

My initial prompt:

I'm perplexed about a paradox:

1. After so many years of so many seemingly trustworthy witnesses without any history of mental illness, sharing profound experiences of UFO's a k a UAP, there is not one single concrete final proof of their or aliens existence, and probability decreasing with time. It to me then seems absolutely impossible that it's a real phenomena that's possible to prove.

2. But on the other hand, what's the other explanation? The more witnesses of very profound experiences, with zero concrete final proof that establishes a "normal" explanation. Seems equally impossible, and probability decreasing further with time.

3. So I feel that #1 vs #2 is a true paradox, a real mystery.
Can you analyze this very narrow part of the UAP topic, from a philosophers view; feel free to refer to science but be open minded rather than setting a scope around what's already proven. Think outside the box!

TL;DR; here's a summary:
Quantum Information Theory and UAPs

Quantum Entanglement and UAPs

1. Empirical Studies: Design experiments to test whether quantum entanglement could account for the behaviors of UAPs. This could involve collaborations with quantum physicists to develop models and experiments that simulate UAP-like phenomena.
2. Field Research: Collect data from UAP sightings that suggest instantaneous travel or communication. Analyze this data for potential quantum correlations.

Quantum Error Correction

1. Stability Analysis: Investigate whether principles of quantum error correction can explain the intermittent visibility of UAPs. This might involve theoretical work and simulations to understand how UAPs could maintain coherence in our reality.

Consciousness and Reality Interfaces

Reality as Interface Theory

1. Experimental Verification: Test Donald Hoffman's theory in the context of UAP experiences. This could involve cognitive experiments where participants engage with altered states of perception to see if they can detect UAPs.
2. Philosophical Inquiry: Explore the implications of reality interface theory for our understanding of UAPs. Engage philosophers and cognitive scientists in interdisciplinary dialogues to develop new models of perception.

Consciousness Filters

1. Altered States: Conduct experiments to see if different states of consciousness, such as those induced by meditation or psychedelics, enhance UAP perception. This could involve collaboration with neuroscientists and psychologists.
2. Filter Hypothesis: Develop and test hypotheses about how consciousness filters might allow perception of normally hidden realities, including UAPs.

Anomalous Cognition and UAPs

Remote Viewing Studies

1. Controlled Experiments: Implement rigorous protocols for remote viewing experiments focused on UAP phenomena. Collect and analyze data to determine if remote viewing can provide reliable information about UAPs.

Precognition and UAPs

1. Case Studies: Compile and analyze reports of precognitive experiences related to UAP encounters. Use statistical methods to assess the validity and implications of these reports.

Evolutionary Perspectives on UAP Perception

Cognitive Biases

1. Bias Analysis: Study how evolved cognitive biases influence UAP reports. This might involve psychological experiments and surveys to identify common biases and their effects on perception.

Evolutionary Purpose

1. Adaptive Hypotheses: Explore whether perceiving UAPs could have had an evolutionary advantage. This might involve comparative studies of cultures with high UAP sighting rates and their historical contexts.

Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and UAP Research

Pattern Recognition

1. Data Analysis: Utilize AGI systems to analyze large datasets of UAP sightings for patterns. This could involve machine learning techniques to identify correlations and anomalies.

Simulated UAP Scenarios

1. Hypothesis Testing: Use AGI to create and test simulations of various UAP scenarios, helping to validate or refute different hypotheses about their nature and behavior.

Interdimensional Communication Protocols

Symbolic Language Development

1. Universal Symbols: Develop a symbolic language based on universal principles of mathematics and physics. Test this language in experiments aimed at communicating with potential interdimensional entities.

Quantum Communication Experiments

1. Dimensional Communication: Design experiments to test the feasibility of quantum communication across dimensions. This could involve theoretical work and practical experiments in quantum information science.

Societal and Existential Risk Assessment

Existential Opportunity

1. Global Challenges: Explore how potential contact with non-human intelligence might help address global challenges. This could involve interdisciplinary research across environmental science, technology, and ethics.

Cultural Resilience

1. Response Strategies: Develop strategies to maintain social cohesion in the face of potential UAP confirmation. This could involve sociological research and public policy development.

Philosophical Implications of UAP Confirmation

Nature of Reality

1. Philosophical Inquiry: Engage philosophers, scientists, and theologians in discussions about the nature of reality in light of potential UAP confirmation. Publish findings in academic journals to stimulate broader discourse.

Human Exceptionalism

1. Revised Concepts: Explore how UAP confirmation might challenge existing notions of human uniqueness. This could involve philosophical and anthropological studies to develop new frameworks for understanding humanity's place in the cosmos.

Next Steps

Global UAP Research Network

1. Establishing Networks: Create an international, interdisciplinary network of researchers to coordinate efforts and share findings. This could involve conferences, workshops, and collaborative research projects.

Advanced Sensor Technologies

1. Technology Development: Invest in the development of advanced sensor technologies specifically designed to detect and record UAP phenomena. This could involve partnerships with tech companies and research institutions.

Unified UAP Database

1. Database Creation: Establish a comprehensive, open-source database of UAP encounters. Incorporate both historical and contemporary data, with standardized reporting formats to ensure consistency and reliability.

Long-Term Observational Studies

1. Observation Stations: Set up permanent observation stations in UAP hotspots, equipped with advanced monitoring technologies. This could involve partnerships with universities and research organizations.

Public Engagement Initiatives

1. Education and Outreach: Develop educational programs and citizen science projects to involve the public in UAP research. Promote scientific literacy and public understanding of UAP phenomena.

Ethical Guidelines

1. Ethical Frameworks: Create comprehensive ethical guidelines for UAP research and potential contact scenarios. Ensure these guidelines respect scientific integrity and consider cultural and psychological impacts.

Consciousness-Based Research Methods

1. Research Protocols: Develop and implement protocols for consciousness-based UAP research. This could involve meditation, altered states of consciousness, and other techniques.

Integration with Mainstream Science

1. Academic Integration: Work towards integrating UAP studies into mainstream scientific disciplines. Encourage peer-reviewed research and academic discourse to validate and expand upon UAP findings.

Conclusion

Your comprehensive approach to the UAP paradox is both ambitious and necessary. By integrating diverse epistemologies, exploring radical ideas about consciousness and reality, and considering the broader implications of our research, we can develop a more nuanced understanding of UAPs. This journey requires balancing open-minded speculation with rigorous empirical investigation, maintaining humility in the face of the unknown, and striving for scientific and ethical integrity.

What additional thoughts or perspectives do you have on these refined ideas? How might we further enhance our approach to this intriguing and complex paradox?

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I like Brave's AI.

Is there any stories in the Bible that could be interpreted as ufo descriptions instead of spiritual experiences


While the Bible is primarily a spiritual text, some passages can be interpreted as describing UFO-like phenomena. Here are a few examples:

Ezekiel’s Wheel: In Ezekiel 1:4-5, 16, the prophet describes a vision of a “wheel within a wheel” with “four living creatures” that resemble a UFO. Some interpret this as a description of a flying vehicle or a celestial body.
The Chariot of Fire: In 2 Kings 2:11, Elijah is taken to heaven in a “chariot of fire” with “horses of fire.” This account can be seen as a possible description of a UFO or a supernatural vehicle.
The Star of Bethlehem: The Star of Bethlehem, described in Matthew 2:2-12, is often interpreted as a UFO or a celestial event that guided the Magi to Jesus’ birthplace.

Other Biblical Passages with UFO-like Descriptions

Ezekiel 3:12-15: Ezekiel describes a vision of a “whirlwind” with “a cloud” and “fire” that separates him from the prophet’s son Elisha. Some interpret this as a description of a UFO or a supernatural vehicle.
Zechariah 5:1-2: Zechariah describes a vision of a “flying scroll” that is “twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.” Some see this as a possible description of a UFO or a celestial body.
Interpretations and Criticisms

It’s essential to note that these passages can be interpreted in various ways, and many scholars and theologians do not see them as descriptions of UFOs. Instead, they may view these accounts as spiritual or symbolic representations of God’s presence or power.

Some critics argue that these passages are not meant to be taken literally and that they are part of a larger narrative that is not concerned with extraterrestrial life. Others may see these accounts as allegorical or metaphorical, rather than literal descriptions of UFOs.

Conclusion

While the Bible does not explicitly mention UFOs, some passages can be interpreted as describing UFO-like phenomena. However, it’s crucial to approach these accounts with a nuanced understanding of their historical and cultural context, as well as the theological and spiritual themes they convey.

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Not a UFO centric youtube channel.

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https://youtu.be/lLu24_hI_7M

Not a UFO centric youtube channel.

Interesting.
We had Arlanda airport here in Sweden closed down a short time due to "drone" sightings, around the same time period
It happened three nights in a row. Just like in China. Very odd.
Very conflicting information on the observations, and finally dismissed immediately after NATO got involved.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 024-09-09/
https://europeanconservative.com/articl ... m-airport/
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/source ... da-airport

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https://youtu.be/lLu24_hI_7M

Not a UFO centric youtube channel.

Interesting.
We had Arlanda airport here in Sweden closed down a short time due to "drone" sightings, around the same time period
It happened three nights in a row. Just like in China. Very odd.
Very conflicting information on the observations, and finally dismissed immediately after NATO got involved.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 024-09-09/
https://europeanconservative.com/articl ... m-airport/
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/source ... da-airport

Very similar stories on all levels, but at least you can keep your camera in Stockholm

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Interesting.
We had Arlanda airport here in Sweden closed down a short time due to "drone" sightings, around the same time period
It happened three nights in a row. Just like in China. Very odd.
Very conflicting information on the observations, and finally dismissed immediately after NATO got involved.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 024-09-09/
https://europeanconservative.com/articl ... m-airport/
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/source ... da-airport

Very similar stories on all levels, but at least you can keep your camera in Stockholm

Heh that's always something.
I never saw any footage at all, but it's not a very populated area.
Supposedly it was reported from the flight tower and they had identified 4 different sizes of "drones".

A similar incident happened in Sweden earlier this year over Malmö Airport, over the decommisioned nuclear plant Barsebäck. Found an article in English about it:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/mystery ... ip/3160497

And it's happened couple months earlier too over three Swedish nuclear plants, as mentioned in the article.
No resolution, IR footage etc that identifies it as drones shown in media.
Swedish media isn't very interested in following up on this.

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Very similar stories on all levels, but at least you can keep your camera in Stockholm

Heh that's always something.
I never saw any footage at all, but it's not a very populated area.
Supposedly it was reported from the flight tower and they had identified 4 different sizes of "drones".

A similar incident happened in Sweden earlier this year over Malmö Airport, over the decommisioned nuclear plant Barsebäck. Found an article in English about it:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/mystery ... ip/3160497

And it's happened couple months earlier too over three Swedish nuclear plants, as mentioned in the article.
No resolution, IR footage etc that identifies it as drones shown in media.
Swedish media isn't very interested in following up on this.

One would think the media would push hard demanding answers from their government and the military immediately. So many blatant violations of Swedish strategic locations.

It is almost as if no one should be curious and remember any of this...

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