AI - Cheating or just evolution?

[Robintes]

Well said Avosoph - seems this topic is a bete noire 4U - Solidarność
"We already know what formulaic music looks like. That's cheesy pop. And while it dominated the charts in the 90s, it failed to innovate and bring us the songs that stand the test of time, break new ground, and relate to people in a new way."
Some tags here
Formulaic music
Cheesy pop (dance)
Dominated the 90's
Failed to evolve.

That last tag I take issue here, cos that song pattern is still very much with us now albeit with some newer mechanically generated sound fonts

Example by Haddaway - What is love.

1993 No1 TOTP Euro Shuffle Dance - you couldnt escape from it for over a decade.

One guy nailed it and makes some very concise points
Same chord (triads) used in millions of pop songs (eg I IV V VI) or the standard 12 bar blues I VI IV V
The decisions on pop song promotions based on a few old men at the top who dictate a pop song shall contain basic 4 chords.

[Higor]

They say 10 to 15 years to reversing aging, perhaps with the help of AI, 3 years.

[bxbrkrz]

[Robintes]

Yup it is what it is and for Pop Music Producers its curtains cos its just around the corner 2024 IMHO. Can anyone else see this?

[Aosta]

Now A.I is becoming automated and can 'think' out solutions to tasks so not only can it answer a question but it can solve complex ideas with multiple concepts on its own.
Worrying stuff if used incorrectly like the new 'Chaos A.I'

[bxbrkrz]

[bxbrkrz]

Google CEO says he doesn't 'fully understand' how new AI program Bard works after it taught itself a foreign language it was not trained to and cited fake books to solve an economics problem
CEO Sundar Pichai admitted he doesn't 'fully understand' aspects of Bard
Notably, the technology taught itself a language it wasn't programmed to learn
'I don't think we fully understand how a human mind works either,' Pichai said


Google's CEO Sundar Pichai admitted he doesn't 'fully understand' how the company's new AI program Bard works, as a new expose shows some of the kinks are still being worked out.

One of the big problems discovered with Bard is something that Pichai called 'emergent properties,' or AI systems having taught themselves unforeseen skills.

Google's AI program was able to, for example, learn Bangladeshi without training after being prompted in the language.

'There is an aspect of this which we call - all of us in the field call it as a 'black box.' You know, you don't fully understand,' Pichai admitted. 'And you can't quite tell why it said this, or why it got wrong. We have some ideas, and our ability to understand this gets better over time. But that's where the state of the art is.'

DailyMail.com has tested out Bard recently, in which it told us it had plans for world domination starting in 2023.

Scott Pelley of CBS' 60 Minutes was surprised and responded: 'You don't fully understand how it works. And yet, you've turned it loose on society?'

'Yeah. Let me put it this way. I don't think we fully understand how a human mind works either,' Pichai said.

Notably, the Bard system instantly wrote an instant essay about inflation in economics, recommending five books. None of them existed, according to CBS News.

In the industry, this sort of error is called 'hallucination.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... works.html
https://archive.is/jsqwT

[jam-s]

The main problem with (NN based) AI is that you cannot really debug it like you could do with normal code. You can only try to derive the internalised laws/relations from multiple probes and then try to improve the training with more examples and counter examples until you get satisfying results, but even after this the next new query could give you utter crap as a result and even experts in the field might wonder why.

[DaveyG]

Google CEO says he doesn't 'fully understand' how new AI program Bard works after it taught itself a foreign language it was not trained to

What he REALLY needs to worry about is the stuff that Bard has taught itself that it is not admitting to.

[Higor]

This was supposed to be artificial intelligence, not artificial trickery.

[bxbrkrz]

Google CEO says he doesn't 'fully understand' how new AI program Bard works after it taught itself a foreign language it was not trained to

What he REALLY needs to worry about is the stuff that Bard has taught itself that it is not admitting to.

"Digital God as soon as possible"

[Higor]

"Tucker asks @ElonMusk if he thinks we could reach a point where A.I. could reach a point where it is in control and can’t be turned off.

Musk says “absolutely”.

I think artificial intelligence should be applied in separate fields, for specific tasks - music, medicine, engineering etc... I think the danger starts when you want to create an AGI. I don't know how one could control this and neither do they.

[avasopht]

An AGI doesn't have to mirror human intelligence to be a problem.

A tiny bit of agency is enough to cause a potential problem because it could drive all of the AI systems that are already pretty capable.

Human intelligence doesn't rely on being correct or accurate. The bar is lower than most people think.

[Aosta]

An AGI doesn't have to mirror human intelligence to be a problem.

A tiny bit of agency is enough to cause a potential problem because it could drive all of the AI systems that are already pretty capable.

Human intelligence doesn't rely on being correct or accurate. The bar is lower than most people think.

I don't get why people assume A.I will be rational if it reaches potential. It could well be super intelligent but also batshit crazy and that will be fun to deal with in the future.

[avasopht]

I don't get why people assume A.I will be rational if it reaches potential. It could well be super intelligent but also batshit crazy and that will be fun to deal with in the future.

It could get caught in an unending existential crisis.

Or this ...

I know a few people in the AI community who are all for bringing forth the Basilisk ...

[avasopht]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -generated

Photographer admits prize-winning image was AI-generated
German artist Boris Eldagsen says entry to Sony world photography awards was designed to provoke debate

[Higor]

[bxbrkrz]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -generated

Photographer admits prize-winning image was AI-generated
German artist Boris Eldagsen says entry to Sony world photography awards was designed to provoke debate

I have seen too many AI generated images. That hand on the shoulder is anatomically insane, or badly photoshopped in post.

[bxbrkrz]

Nineteenth-century occult groups such as the Golden Dawn held that the point-up pentagram represented the rulership of Spirit over the physical elements, while a point-down pentagram represented the descent of Spirit into matter or matter subsuming Spirit. It is largely this interpretation that led the religion of Wicca to adopt the point-up pentagram and Satanism the point-down version as their representative symbols.

[avasopht]

I have seen too many AI generated images. That hand on the shoulder is anatomically insane, or badly photoshopped in post.

It looks more like a b/w painting to me.

[bxbrkrz]

I have seen too many AI generated images. That hand on the shoulder is anatomically insane, or badly photoshopped in post.

It looks more like a b/w painting to me.

That's a photo.

AI is just now getting good with hands, maybe they are using a 3D skeleton on top as a reference? But that wasn't used there. No one will talk about grotesque AI hands one year from now methinks.

[Aosta]

AI is just now getting good with hands, maybe they are using a 3D skeleton on top as a reference? But that wasn't used there. No one will talk about grotesque AI hands one year from now methinks.

Considering this video shows how far we have come in just over a year I imagine another year from now we will be far beyond concerns about fully rendered hands.

[bxbrkrz]

AI is just now getting good with hands, maybe they are using a 3D skeleton on top as a reference? But that wasn't used there. No one will talk about grotesque AI hands one year from now methinks.

Considering this video shows how far we have come in just over a year I imagine another year from now we will be far beyond concerns about fully rendered hands.

Not too many humans will be strong enough from tumbling into the vortex. Most are already trained now to accept their inescapable future reality.
Thx for the video.

[Heater]

I recently did a deepish dive on AI to see if the recent fears about AI were valid.
I'm now deeply concerned. The amount of jobs that are going to be replaced by AI over the next 10 years will be astonishing.

[bxbrkrz]

You'll own nothing, and the corporations owning AI will be happy.