Or not, if they didn’t say it would be…

Devs can't be forced to keep the existing products in the shop legally, that would be ex post facto. But even if they remove it from the shop, RS will still be providing downloads to those who purchased it.joeyluck wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022If we're talking about forcing devs to keep their products in the shop forever, I definitely do not support that. Of course devs should have the freedom to manage their products. The future proofing of products is about having the products you have purchased continue to work in future versions of Reason.
Distribution Agreement wrote: Reason Studios is entitled to allow End Users to access and re-access copies of the RSPPs. If these Terms terminates for any reason, the Developer grants Reason Studios an eternal, non-exclusive, non-revocable, non-transferable license to store the RSPP and to provide End Users, that have already purchased, rented-to-own or subscribed to the RSPP, access and re-access to copies of the RSPP ...
I understand that some REs are discontinued, but not how that applies to ‘future proof’. I guess it depends on how you define ‘future proof’. If you have an RE, you have it into the (foreseeable) future, so it is future proof in as much as anything is future proof, right?rootwheel wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022The whole future proofing of this compatibility does fall apart when REs are able to disappear for some but not for others. It's actually worse than what happened to ReFills - at least you could sometimes find a copy of those floating around the internet. With REs you have no way of getting discontinued ones at all.
seriously boys is just that hard to understand that nothing can be trully shared if other peoples can't get access to the RE included in a combi patch?
You’re still talking about it though.
I think any confusion is coming from conflating “sharing” with “future proof”, which has a different meaning.
It's future proof to the extent that your rack extensions will always be supported in future versions of Reason and that the developer does not have to do anything to support a different CPU architecture or operating system.dakta wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022"Future-proofing is the process of anticipating the future and developing methods of minimizing the effects of shocks and stresses of future events."
My interpretation therefore is that if you own it, and it is futureproofed you will still be able to use it without impact in the coming years. It might for example, be the fact the RE can survive Reason turning 13 without starting to squawk like a parrot - You have to bear in mind there might be realistic limits to this, for example if RS went bust. (In the same way lifetime warranties are a bit... you know)
A good way of futureproofing existing users from RS going bust would be to allow logins without internet authorisation - just throwing that out there.
Now that I've said my piece, I am terminating this discussion![]()
They had some seriously unrealistic expectations of the RE market.
I guess you could write to the dev and ask if they'd be wiling to put a license on your account. Don't think AirRaid are reachable any more though.
Unfortunately, REs aren't transferable. Not sure how this works legally as EU consumer law prohibits this sort of limitation.
Most definitely. I’ve got a few plugins that aren’t even ready for Monterey yet, much less M1/M2 native. I’ve slowed WAY down in recent years on spending money on software/plugins, focusing more on RE’s and hardware synths.
McDSP still exist as a company although last time I looked their site made no mention of Reason or REs. Try emailing them.sublunar wrote: ↑14 Jan 2023I want to take this opportunity to call out McDSP's RE's which are known to have bugs and which they are not fixing. That really grinds my gears.
Because of my experience with McDSP, I've basically abandoned RE's in general, especially now that Arturia's FX collection exists.
Allowing RE's into your ecosystem that contain bugs that won't ever be fixed is a huge stain on Reason's walled garden stability/integrity. Seems like Reason could withold royalties or whatever to said RE developers until the bugs are worked out, but they don't. There was a time where I was determined to use only RE's and not mess around with third party plugins (except for Superior Drummer) because I thought they were vetted and stable. That ship has sailed.
If I was one of the more reputable RE devs like Jiggery Pokery or Selig, I would be pretty miffed about the bad apples and the impact it has on the rest of the RE market.
I did. They literally told me they had no plans to fix the known issues with their RE's. Which are still for sale in the shop. What better reason can one have for abandoning the RE ecosystem? I say that as a former true believer.DaveyG wrote: ↑14 Jan 2023McDSP still exist as a company although last time I looked their site made no mention of Reason or REs. Try emailing them.sublunar wrote: ↑14 Jan 2023I want to take this opportunity to call out McDSP's RE's which are known to have bugs and which they are not fixing. That really grinds my gears.
Because of my experience with McDSP, I've basically abandoned RE's in general, especially now that Arturia's FX collection exists.
Allowing RE's into your ecosystem that contain bugs that won't ever be fixed is a huge stain on Reason's walled garden stability/integrity. Seems like Reason could withold royalties or whatever to said RE developers until the bugs are worked out, but they don't. There was a time where I was determined to use only RE's and not mess around with third party plugins (except for Superior Drummer) because I thought they were vetted and stable. That ship has sailed.
If I was one of the more reputable RE devs like Jiggery Pokery or Selig, I would be pretty miffed about the bad apples and the impact it has on the rest of the RE market.
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