12.5d29 Automation Recording bug

[summon.exe]

I submitted this bug to support, but I wanted to see if anyone else here has noticed this:

Ever since the last upgrade to 12.5d29, Reason has exhibited a strange bug during parameter automation recording. Namely, when I have a track set to record automation and the track is recording, a click to an automatable button will not record correctly.

As an example, say a button is off. When recording automation for this device, I click the button. It turns on and immediately off again, and the lime green automation track border appears, as though I've clicked Automation Override in the bottom right of the sequencer to reset it. Subsequent clicks will be recorded correctly, but the initial click is buggy.

I've verified this with two different input devices - a gaming mouse that doesn't exhibit this behavior in any other programs, and on a trackpad.

It's also definitely new behavior. I've been using Reason for 17 years.

This is a major part of my workflow, so I'd appreciate if you can fix this. I can record a demonstration of this if you can't reproduce it.

P.S. I'm also curious about the design decision to have pitch wheel automation automatically get cleaned up, erasing vast amounts of detail, whenever recording ceases... with no apparent way to prevent it. A checkbox would be nice to disable this behavior. I had to record the audio to capture the performance I wanted - not ideal.

[Pepin]

I'm also curious about the design decision to have pitch wheel automation automatically get cleaned up, erasing vast amounts of detail, whenever recording ceases... with no apparent way to prevent it. A checkbox would be nice to disable this behavior. I had to record the audio to capture the performance I wanted - not ideal.

Have you checked the "Automation Cleanup" setting under the General preferences tab?

For the other behavior you describe, I've also noticed it. Definitely seems like a bug.

[Arpeg]

I am also getting the same automation bug exactly described above in the latest update, never seen it before. Not tried automation cleanup..
Have not noticed the pitch wheel automation automatically cleanup but will try after work

[summon.exe]

I'm also curious about the design decision to have pitch wheel automation automatically get cleaned up, erasing vast amounts of detail, whenever recording ceases... with no apparent way to prevent it. A checkbox would be nice to disable this behavior. I had to record the audio to capture the performance I wanted - not ideal.

Have you checked the "Automation Cleanup" setting under the General preferences tab?

For the other behavior you describe, I've also noticed it. Definitely seems like a bug.

Thanks for the tip with the Automation Cleanup setting. I changed it from Maximum to Minimum and it's better now.

The automation recording bug is annoying, though.

[loui]

This is an unfortunate regression bug in 12.5 as a result of tweaking some automation code for our VST3 hosting.
We are working on a fix for this issue and it should hopefully be included in the next maintenance update.

Loui

[crimsonwarlock]

This is an unfortunate regression bug in 12.5 as a result of tweaking some automation code for our VST3 hosting.
We are working on a fix for this issue and it should hopefully be included in the next maintenance update.

Loui

Hopefully, that fix will also take care of the pattern automation bug when using players inside blocks, as that seems also to be a regression bug and probably related to this.

[summon.exe]

This is an unfortunate regression bug in 12.5 as a result of tweaking some automation code for our VST3 hosting.
We are working on a fix for this issue and it should hopefully be included in the next maintenance update.

Loui

Awesome!

[Arpeg]

Thank you for the update Loui. thanks for reporting this bug summon exe and pepin for advice, cheers.