Kushview Element - free open source VST3 to VST2 bridge for Reason

[diminished]

You can't get midi out of the plugin into Reason, you can pump it into other VST's inside of Elements.

From standalone you can get midi out and pump it into Reason via a controller.. You can also get midi from Reason via the EMI\Midi out device into standalone elements.

Thank you for the clarification. Loading RRP in Reason itself along with all other VST3s is a total game changer and will net me the results I'm looking for - a satisfying solution until we have native VST3 support and VST MIDI out.

(Now I'm even more convinced that not allowing transmission of VST MIDI out within Reason is just a move to protect the Player market.)

[Boombastix]

(Now I'm even more convinced that not allowing transmission of VST MIDI out within Reason is just a move to protect the Player market.)

Perhaps that is what they thought, but then there are no Player to compete with Scaler and several other of the Midi VST FX that are hugely popular, so they essentially lock themselves out of the market. To me this move (if that's what it is) would make as much sense as keeping Reason monophonic to protect the Subtractor market.

Could also be that it is a major engine re-write required to get free midi routing and multi-channel management, like the buffer size re-write debacle last year. The rack and the sequencer comes after all from two separate programs that were merged, and the Players only do midi stuff inside the rack, except the "send to track" function, but that one requires the sequencer to actually run and you have to sit and watch it do just that. So this may be a bigger SW issue than anyone on the outside has previously thought about.

[Carly(Poohbear)]

(Now I'm even more convinced that not allowing transmission of VST MIDI out within Reason is just a move to protect the Player market.)

Perhaps that is what they thought, but then there are no Player to compete with Scaler and several other of the Midi VST FX that are hugely popular, so they essentially lock themselves out of the market. To me this move (if that's what it is) would make as much sense as keeping Reason monophonic to protect the Subtractor market.

Could also be that it is a major engine re-write required to get free midi routing and multi-channel management, like the buffer size re-write debacle last year. The rack and the sequencer comes after all from two separate programs that were merged, and the Players only do midi stuff inside the rack, except the "send to track" function, but that one requires the sequencer to actually run and you have to sit and watch it do just that. So this may be a bigger SW issue than anyone on the outside has previously thought about.

I would say it's a major rewrite.

I did wonder if they could do a player VST interface purely for Midi only and yes I understand it would be omni but it's a start

[MrFigg]

Just got around to trying this again and...Kushview rocks.

[MrFigg]

Anybody know if Kushview can bridge 32bit plugins into Reason?

[Carly(Poohbear)]

Anybody know if Kushview can bridge 32bit plugins into Reason?

No it can't, 64 bit all the way...

[MrFigg]

Anybody know if Kushview can bridge 32bit plugins into Reason?

No it can't, 64 bit all the way...

Thanks

[avasopht]

Oh sweet ... now I can use Zenology in Reason!

[provinceofnowhere]

So happy someone made a cheaper alternative to Bluecat. However, I cannot for the life of me work out how to disconnect a routing once it's set up. I'm having to scrap a session and start all over again. Any ideas? @Carly

[mcatalao]

I also use Kushview Elements, it's stable and works great.

I only have 2 VST's that don't have VST2 versions, but it works great with both them (one of them being Melodyne 5 which dropped VST2 support in this version).

[Carly(Poohbear)]

So happy someone made a cheaper alternative to Bluecat. However, I cannot for the life of me work out how to disconnect a routing once it's set up. I'm having to scrap a session and start all over again. Any ideas? @Carly

You just click and hold on the connecting wire and move your mouse just slightly left or right and the release the mouse..

[Hashmoder]

I found kushview way too complicated for me. I found DDMF MetaPlugin to be more robust and way easier to use. MetaPlugin is not expensive at all and totally worth the money. Works flawlessly in Reason and other apps.

https://ddmf.eu/metaplugin-chainer-vst- ... x-wrapper/

[visheshl]

Thanks for the link. I used to use this plugin in Ableton Live on my Mac. Very useful if you want to use reason players with other vsts. Using this you can have a single track instead of one midi track and one instrument track in Ableton.
I just got a new pc, had forgotten about this plugin. Downloading it now

[bluesydude]

I'm still not getting sound from EZDrummer 3. Any suggestions?

Using Reason is a lot like being married in the sense that you love it but it can seriously get on your last nerve!

[Carly(Poohbear)]

I'm still not getting sound from EZDrummer 3. Any suggestions?

Using Reason is a lot like being married in the sense that you love it but it can seriously get on your last nerve!

Have you tried standalone?

When ever I have any funnies (yes that means I giggle a lot using Reason) break down your problem, in this case you can run Kushview standalone, so try and get EZDrummer working there first, then repeat that setup via the VST plugin etc.

I don't own EZDrummer however it should look something like this..

Basic Setup

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Each to it's own mix channel in Reason

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[bluesydude]

Thanks Carly!

EZDrummer 3 is working in Reason! I was missing the connection of the MIDI in to the VST.

Dolan

[Carly(Poohbear)]

Thanks Carly!

EZDrummer 3 is working in Reason! I was missing the connection of the MIDI in to the VST.

Dolan

Good to hear...

In this video I show how to get Midi out of a VST back into Reason using Kushview

[bluesydude]

Cool video even though I have no understanding of what you are doing.
Keep up the great work and I appreciate your support of this community.

[QVadis]

Kushview Elements is almost a Godsend for reason users

[EnochLight]

Kushview Elements is almost a Godsend for reason users

Oh? how so?

[Carly(Poohbear)]

Kushview Elements is almost a Godsend for reason users

Oh? how so?

I would say mainly on the Midi side of things, also yes for VST3 as well however that point will be mute for a lot of people soon, I will still need\use it as I just stated for the midi side of things.

[Billy+]

Oh? how so?

I would say mainly on the Midi side of things, also yes for VST3 as well however that point will be mute for a lot of people soon, I will still need\use it as I just stated for the midi side of things.

Even when vst3 gets implemented in Reason we are still going to have to rely on using 3rd party wrappers for certain vst's even vst3 devices as again midi support will be missing.

[drno]

I have get an error in Reason, if I open a midi port and assign a channel with Elements, and try to open the same midi port with Reason's Midi Out device on another channel it throws a midi port busy error. Does anyone have the same thing?

[dvdrtldg]

So if I've got this right, I can use Element to get Scaler 2 playing other instruments in Reason? Can someone explain how to set this up? I've been futzing around with it, but can't get it to work

[Carly(Poohbear)]

I have get an error in Reason, if I open a midi port and assign a channel with Elements, and try to open the same midi port with Reason's Midi Out device on another channel it throws a midi port busy error. Does anyone have the same thing?

Works for me, I think this is what you are doing? (I'm running 1.46.6)

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