You really don’t. They’re so bad that props removed them from the shop after a whole load of people bought them in a sale and then complained about how crap they were.Chi-Individual wrote: ↑05 May 2022I have both Heavyocity REs and I don’t think I’ve played more than 10patches from each before deleting them. I need to revisit those.
Which of your REs have you (pretty much) never used?
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Thank you for saving me the trouble and disc space. I didn't know most thought they were crap like I did.MrFigg wrote: ↑05 May 2022You really don’t. They’re so bad that props removed them from the shop after a whole load of people bought them in a sale and then complained about how crap they were.Chi-Individual wrote: ↑05 May 2022I have both Heavyocity REs and I don’t think I’ve played more than 10patches from each before deleting them. I need to revisit those.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7507062&hilit=AeonChi-Individual wrote: ↑05 May 2022Thank you for saving me the trouble and disc space. I didn't know most thought they were crap like I did.
Here’s the thread.
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Oh my god, the drama queenery going on in that thread
I get that they're badly designed, and overpriced, and flat out don't work properly. But people taking offence at their very existence in the shop is ridiculous. To anyone like me who owns them and is inclined to regret the purchase, here are two helpful tips:
1. Resolve from now on to trial all RE purchases before buying, and be grateful for the lesson
2. The best way to soothe your anguish is to find a use for them. It's not that hard - the Organic one has some decent pluck sounds, the Synth one can do a nasty fat bass, the Punish knob on both of them can bring things to life, the inbuilt sequencer is fun. They're useless for pads because the samples don't loop? Fine, don't use them for pads. This patch has a muddy low end? Dry your eyes, you quite possibly have an EQ in your FX collection, it might help. Find out what they *can* do, get freaky with them, abuse them, layer them with other instruments. Do this and I promise you, you'll eventually emerge from the Abyss of Trauma and rediscover a reason for living. Just take it one day at a time
I don’t think RS made the decision to immediately remove them from the shop based on the “drama queenery” of a small handful of users on a forum.dvdrtldg wrote: ↑05 May 2022Oh my god, the drama queenery going on in that thread
I get that they're badly designed, and overpriced, and flat out don't work properly. But people taking offence at their very existence in the shop is ridiculous. To anyone like me who owns them and is inclined to regret the purchase, here are two helpful tips:
1. Resolve from now on to trial all RE purchases before buying, and be grateful for the lesson
2. The best way to soothe your anguish is to find a use for them. It's not that hard - the Organic one has some decent pluck sounds, the Synth one can do a nasty fat bass, the Punish knob on both of them can bring things to life, the inbuilt sequencer is fun. They're useless for pads because the samples don't loop? Fine, don't use them for pads. This patch has a muddy low end? Dry your eyes, you quite possibly have an EQ in your FX collection, it might help. Find out what they *can* do, get freaky with them, abuse them, layer them with other instruments. Do this and I promise you, you'll eventually emerge from the Abyss of Trauma and rediscover a reason for living. Just take it one day at a time
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Holy moly… I have 146 RE’s, and I swear I don’t use that many of them. Better to say which ones I DO use quite often:
Blamsoft Polymodular Audio Merger
Jiggery Pokery TMA-x Commentators
Kilohearts Delay
Kilohearts Trance Gate
Kilohearts Haas
Presteign Sound Labs Macro
Primal Audio PMS-20
Reason Drum Sequencer
Reason B*VX
Reason Pulsar
Reason Algoritm
RB Sequences
RB CV-I & CV-O
Synapse Obsession
Tonic Mint CV Pistons
Ouch… I may need to rethink how many RE’s I buy…
Blamsoft Polymodular Audio Merger
Jiggery Pokery TMA-x Commentators
Kilohearts Delay
Kilohearts Trance Gate
Kilohearts Haas
Presteign Sound Labs Macro
Primal Audio PMS-20
Reason Drum Sequencer
Reason B*VX
Reason Pulsar
Reason Algoritm
RB Sequences
RB CV-I & CV-O
Synapse Obsession
Tonic Mint CV Pistons
Ouch… I may need to rethink how many RE’s I buy…
I agree, radical keys with rotor is very fun and sound awesome too me.
(tbh, friktion with a guitar and a bit of distortion and rotor is fun too).
Bitwig and RRP fanboy...
Haha, I think I quite agree with your point...dvdrtldg wrote: ↑05 May 2022Oh my god, the drama queenery going on in that thread
I get that they're badly designed, and overpriced, and flat out don't work properly. But people taking offence at their very existence in the shop is ridiculous. To anyone like me who owns them and is inclined to regret the purchase, here are two helpful tips:
1. Resolve from now on to trial all RE purchases before buying, and be grateful for the lesson
2. The best way to soothe your anguish is to find a use for them. It's not that hard - the Organic one has some decent pluck sounds, the Synth one can do a nasty fat bass, the Punish knob on both of them can bring things to life, the inbuilt sequencer is fun. They're useless for pads because the samples don't loop? Fine, don't use them for pads. This patch has a muddy low end? Dry your eyes, you quite possibly have an EQ in your FX collection, it might help. Find out what they *can* do, get freaky with them, abuse them, layer them with other instruments. Do this and I promise you, you'll eventually emerge from the Abyss of Trauma and rediscover a reason for living. Just take it one day at a time
Bitwig and RRP fanboy...
I think there aren't many Re's that pass thought that unless i found a better replacement in a new Re or VST.
Probably best examples, are:
Predator replaced by Predator 3 in new projects.
Ozone maximizer by the Ozone plugin
Softube Dynamite was used a lot for de-essing, and now i use Selig's de-esser.
Red Queen was either replaced by selig's eq or also Izotope eq's (not that it's worse but i changed the workflow a bit)
I almost stopped using PX7 for new patches, use it a lot for older stuff, but for creating new stuff, i use Algorithm.
I don't think there are many Re's i've bought and never used.
Probably best examples, are:
Predator replaced by Predator 3 in new projects.
Ozone maximizer by the Ozone plugin
Softube Dynamite was used a lot for de-essing, and now i use Selig's de-esser.
Red Queen was either replaced by selig's eq or also Izotope eq's (not that it's worse but i changed the workflow a bit)
I almost stopped using PX7 for new patches, use it a lot for older stuff, but for creating new stuff, i use Algorithm.
I don't think there are many Re's i've bought and never used.
I used to use Softube Dynamite for de-essing but now I use FabFilter Pro-DS. I still use the Dynamite a lot but now for creating bolstering sounds - really squashing something so that it sits so well in the mix it can't be heard normally until you mute the channel and then you immediately hear what's not there any more - if that makes sense
I truely recommend checking out DCAM EnvShaper. I use it on bascially every drumrelated track, even if it´s simply to cut off a reverb tail.
Lowering the attack of an otherwise too agressive sound, rounding it off, is what I use it even more for.
Btw are there any other transient designers available as RE besides the FXpansion and the Kilohearts one?
KH´s transient shaper looks quite good, especially with the sidechain input and the pump. Havent trialed it yet and would like to do so in a quieter moment for testing, exploring, saying I would like to keep the trial for now.
Anyone got deeper experience with it? ´
Lowering the attack of an otherwise too agressive sound, rounding it off, is what I use it even more for.
Btw are there any other transient designers available as RE besides the FXpansion and the Kilohearts one?
KH´s transient shaper looks quite good, especially with the sidechain input and the pump. Havent trialed it yet and would like to do so in a quieter moment for testing, exploring, saying I would like to keep the trial for now.
Anyone got deeper experience with it? ´
TritoneAddiction wrote: ↑02 May 2022For me there's a long list of things I've hardly ever used. I might have included some of them in one song right after purchase and then forgotten about them.
Hydronexius
ES-01 Analog Synthesizer
Omega Trimmer
Omega Mastering Clipper
DCAM EnvShaper
Psychedelic Haas Sample Slice Unit
PCM2612 Retro Decimator Unit
RYM2612 Iconic FM Synthesizer
kHs Reverb
Tape Cassette Deck
Efektor TR3604 Tremolo
EVE-MP5 Program Equalizer
Efektor WF3607 Wah Filter
Vibro Wavetable Synthesizer
Complex-1 Modular Synthesizer
Pattern Mutator
Processed Pianos
RPDistort Effect
PunchBDRE Instrument
Selig Leveler
Nautilus Bass Synthesizer
Iridium Distortion Synth
SoedeSoft SidMaster
Delta MIDI Computer
Spring 905 Reverberation Effect
Isolate-X Frequency Isolator/Remover
Some of the Noise Engineering stuff I'm sure. Honestly I reach for them occasionally but I afterwards I have no idea which one I have and haven't used since they all look the same.
From this list I could see myself going back to revisit a few and dive a little deeper. Psychedelic Haas Sample Slice Unit, Vibro Wavetable Synthesizer, Pattern Mutator, Delta MIDI Computer.
Really I should make an entire EP just using my long list of REs above as inspiration.
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That will be hard if you don't have it already, as it is no longer available in the shop.
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Analog tape ⇒ ESQ1 sequencer board ⇒ Atari/Steinberg Pro24 ⇒ Atari/Cubase ⇒ Cakewalk Sonar ⇒ Orion Pro/Platinum ⇒ Reaper ⇒ Reason DAW.
Analog tape ⇒ ESQ1 sequencer board ⇒ Atari/Steinberg Pro24 ⇒ Atari/Cubase ⇒ Cakewalk Sonar ⇒ Orion Pro/Platinum ⇒ Reaper ⇒ Reason DAW.
This review pretty much nails it imo https://www.reasontalk.com/2017/02/revi ... nt-shaper/ - it's a simple but effective plugin, very fast to dial in what you need, and amazingly artefact-free, even when pushed to extremes. I also agree with the review that it could use a wet/dry knob
If you hurry you can get KHs Snapheap VST for free. That way you’ll got all the KHs plugins in VST format for free as well and then you can mess about with them all at your leisure before deciding whether you want the RE or not.
https://kilohearts.com/products/kilohearts_essentials
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Woooh, thank you very much
MrFigg wrote: ↑28 May 2022If you hurry you can get KHs Snapheap VST for free. That way you’ll got all the KHs plugins in VST format for free as well and then you can mess about with them all at your leisure before deciding whether you want the RE or not.
https://kilohearts.com/products/kilohearts_essentials
Simply gonna test it in VST or build a Combinator thatfor where I could implement a dry/wet aswell.
Thank you anyway.
Thank you anyway.
dvdrtldg wrote: ↑28 May 2022This review pretty much nails it imo https://www.reasontalk.com/2017/02/revi ... nt-shaper/ - it's a simple but effective plugin, very fast to dial in what you need, and amazingly artefact-free, even when pushed to extremes. I also agree with the review that it could use a wet/dry knob
It´s in Tritone´s list, reason I mentiioned it
crimsonwarlock wrote: ↑28 May 2022That will be hard if you don't have it already, as it is no longer available in the shop.
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Aah, I missed thatmoofi wrote: ↑29 May 2022It´s in Tritone´s list, reason I mentiioned it
crimsonwarlock wrote: ↑28 May 2022
That will be hard if you don't have it already, as it is no longer available in the shop.
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Analog tape ⇒ ESQ1 sequencer board ⇒ Atari/Steinberg Pro24 ⇒ Atari/Cubase ⇒ Cakewalk Sonar ⇒ Orion Pro/Platinum ⇒ Reaper ⇒ Reason DAW.
Analog tape ⇒ ESQ1 sequencer board ⇒ Atari/Steinberg Pro24 ⇒ Atari/Cubase ⇒ Cakewalk Sonar ⇒ Orion Pro/Platinum ⇒ Reaper ⇒ Reason DAW.
I guess it's not strictly an RE, but I never, ever use Note Echo, and I can't figure out why anyone would
It's just one of those devices that I have a huge mental block with. I understand how it works, I've read the manual and watched YouTube videos. It just doesn't gel with me at all
It's just one of those devices that I have a huge mental block with. I understand how it works, I've read the manual and watched YouTube videos. It just doesn't gel with me at all
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