ln fact, the video is just as much about how he uses Reason to make beats
While some are saying you can't make music in Reason, others are making a living from it.
I've stopped using Kong myself, but maybe you aren't aware that if you drag a sample directly to the NN-Nano, rather than on the pad itself, the Kong routing stays the same. Remember Kong is also a synth (not just a sampler) so anything you drag onto the pad is effectively a preset therefore changing the routing.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022With all due respect I question the sanity of the users who work solely in Reason. I mean the mentality of the user that readjust panning, output channel, level you get the picture a total reset every time they load a sample in Kong is the definition of madness. I
QVprod wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022I've stopped using Kong myself, but maybe you aren't aware that if you drag a sample directly to the NN-Nano, rather than on the pad itself, the Kong routing stays the same. Remember Kong is also a synth (not just a sampler) so anything you drag onto the pad is effectively a preset therefore changing the routing.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022With all due respect I question the sanity of the users who work solely in Reason. I mean the mentality of the user that readjust panning, output channel, level you get the picture a total reset every time they load a sample in Kong is the definition of madness. I
raises hand That fits with me as many have noticedadfielding wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022I'm not going to lie, I've always kind of liked that outsider perception of Reason as something used by weirdos haha!
An excavator that's a little rusty and broken but with lots of power and wires.
QVprod wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022I've stopped using Kong myself, but maybe you aren't aware that if you drag a sample directly to the NN-Nano, rather than on the pad itself, the Kong routing stays the same. Remember Kong is also a synth (not just a sampler) so anything you drag onto the pad is effectively a preset therefore changing the routing.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑11 Jan 2022With all due respect I question the sanity of the users who work solely in Reason. I mean the mentality of the user that readjust panning, output channel, level you get the picture a total reset every time they load a sample in Kong is the definition of madness. I
Yeah it would be nice if you could lock the routing while switching presets. On the Rex chops though, you could always save a preset with all the chunk trigs set up. Then it'd be less tedious.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022Yeah but scrolling through patches resets again so you can't really test patches against while beat is playing. I can't go back to Kong I'm way too happy in Studio One Impact where I can drag Rex files on pad 1 and it will auto chop each sound on pads 1-16 or go to another bank. In Reason you have to choose Nurse Rex then choose one by one Chunk trig for each 16 pads to chop a Rex file. I like to work smart not hard, time is money I work I'm not a kid who lives with his parents. They can keep that spoon.
QVprod wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022
I've stopped using Kong myself, but maybe you aren't aware that if you drag a sample directly to the NN-Nano, rather than on the pad itself, the Kong routing stays the same. Remember Kong is also a synth (not just a sampler) so anything you drag onto the pad is effectively a preset therefore changing the routing.
QVprod wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022Yeah it would be nice if you could lock the routing while switching presets. On the Rex chops though, you could always save a preset with all the chunk trigs set up. Then it'd be less tedious.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022Yeah but scrolling through patches resets again so you can't really test patches against while beat is playing. I can't go back to Kong I'm way too happy in Studio One Impact where I can drag Rex files on pad 1 and it will auto chop each sound on pads 1-16 or go to another bank. In Reason you have to choose Nurse Rex then choose one by one Chunk trig for each 16 pads to chop a Rex file. I like to work smart not hard, time is money I work I'm not a kid who lives with his parents. They can keep that spoon.
But I'm not advocating for Kong. It used to be my favorite as it beat most things for sample layering. Then Battery took my attention and now I'm on Machine. Never got on with Impact and it was too late by the time the XT version came out.
adfielding wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022All I'm going to say is - if someone can't write and produce a good song using Reason, Reason isn't the problem.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022Reason is far behind other DAWs yes you can make music with it but you’re working harder than other DAW users it’s not even debatable. It’s like two men trying to dig a ditch and one is using a shovel and the other a spoon. Yes both will dig but the guy using a spoon is a fool. I’m not calling Reason uses fools but I do scratch my head at the rigorous workflow y’all choose to make music in.
Exactly.lowtom wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022This is very true. So many great records, from different genres, were made before whole DAW boom.ProfessaKaos wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022A lot of the best Hip Hop and RnB ever made to this date was made with technology that is completely inferior to what we have today. Again I'll say it, no one cares what you use or used, you could use a toaster or an anal bead to make a song, if people vibe to it and it draws emotion from them, then it's a winner. Music is not a contest.
Today we have obsession over tools and not music itself. Most DAW complaints are from folks who praise shitty techniques like layering 150 tracks to make a kick drum or call every sub bass sine wave an 808.
Another aspect of making music in a band is that you can respond to each other in realtime when creating a track, so you're able to quickly cover ground you probably wouldn't have arrived at alone.ProfessaKaos wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022At the end of the day music is music, tools like computers just made it easier one person to make a song by themselves and not need multiple people which is what use to happen. Probably why older songs have more vibe/soul/feeling, because it is the vibe/soul and feeling of multiple/group of people coming together.
Better is subjective to the end listener. No one makes better music than anyone, if you love what you make then that is all that counts. The whole purpose of making music is making something that you love and enjoy doing, not who is better, or I make better beats or songs than you, F that mindset, that mindset is for insecure people like children. Music is about collaborating with people in something you and the others around you love to do, which creates amazing memories and bonds with people that will last a life time.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑12 Jan 2022The difference between a MPC user is they know the workflow on a 2000XL is outdated and none of them will argue about it. The problem with a lot Reason people is that they’re in denial about how trash the workflow is and how most things in the DAW is half arse. If someone say they make better music than me on that raggedy DAW ima say good for you at least they are honest
Absolutely. Multiple minds are always better than one. Team work makes the dream workavasopht wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022Another aspect of making music in a band is that you can respond to each other in realtime when creating a track, so you're able to quickly cover ground you probably wouldn't have arrived at alone.ProfessaKaos wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022At the end of the day music is music, tools like computers just made it easier one person to make a song by themselves and not need multiple people which is what use to happen. Probably why older songs have more vibe/soul/feeling, because it is the vibe/soul and feeling of multiple/group of people coming together.
Those lacking the opportunity to work in a team can go schizo and create a team in their head.ProfessaKaos wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022Absolutely. Multiple minds are always better than one. Team work makes the dream work
Mhm and each band member has a different idea and perception about the song, and everyone pulls their wayProfessaKaos wrote: ↑13 Jan 2022Absolutely. Multiple minds are always better than one. Team work makes the dream work
And that's why I talk to myself all day long. So I can have cool dreams too.
Chi-Individual wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022
This is hilarious. The reaction is at 2:09 if the video is acting up. But it seems that some of the youngins feel like Reason is something ol' school like an MPC 2000XL or ASR10 or something. Perception with the youth as far as Reason being a modern, up-to-date DAW is def an issue. But I have no idea how that can be changed.
I'm not here to get overly defensive but Reason producers won 3 Grammy's in the hip hop genre this year... so I'm not sure we're as behind and not appealing to young beatmakers as you think But yes, FL does very well in that market for sure.Goriila Texas wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022Young people aren't dumb anybody with common sense and with a general understanding of how music software works will come to that conclusion. The look of confusion on her face when dude said "Reason" speaks volumes of the perception young producers have of Reason. It's just facts that Reason is behind the competition and not appealing to the youth of Trap producers which is a billion dollar genre. Many do both hip hop and Trap and don't touch Reason! RS or PH throughout since Reason inception has continued to ignore this genre of music makers and their growth has been stagnant at best. I'm 49 I bet there are a gazillion young trap producers from 15 yrs old to 25 alone providing enough money to Image line that they give free updates for life. I'm a hating azz old head but the youth are the future and if they don't think you're cool you're dead as a company.
Chi-Individual wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022
This is hilarious. The reaction is at 2:09 if the video is acting up. But it seems that some of the youngins feel like Reason is something ol' school like an MPC 2000XL or ASR10 or something. Perception with the youth as far as Reason being a modern, up-to-date DAW is def an issue. But I have no idea how that can be changed.
It wouldn't surprise me if (young) producers that use Reason are less vocal about it, and maybe even see it as their 'secret weapon'.jamespember wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022I'm not here to get overly defensive but Reason producers won 3 Grammy's in the hip hop genre this year... so I'm not sure we're as behind and not appealing to young beatmakers as you think
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