Reason Studios updates their roadmap (November 17, 2021)

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Aquila
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Post 28 Dec 2021

Oh damn. I was hoping for a more practical fix :cry:

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Post 28 Dec 2021

Yes still no sequencer updates, even not one. I am already looking for other DAWs or Hardware.. :(
I just can't understand this business strategy.

So If i really switch then I will use Reason as a VST Plugin, but I do not think I will update it ever again, as I did all the years with the Reason DAW.

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Post 28 Dec 2021

Aquila wrote:
28 Dec 2021
joeyluck wrote:
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It was fixed in 12.2.1
How so? I've got 12.2.3 and I still can't get my original maps to work.
Remote maps should work. If they don't, be sure to report it. As mentioned, the maps forward to the first four knobs and four buttons of the first Combinator. It's a similar concept to how the automation from previous projects carries over.

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Post 28 Dec 2021

Aquila wrote:
28 Dec 2021
I remember in the V12 launch thread there was talk about RS working on a fix for their questionable obliteration of the mixer's insert controls.

Yeah. How's that going?
That fix has been out for a while now. Try your controller on the inserts.

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Post 29 Dec 2021

Hmmm I've been trying and the mapping for my BCF2000 controller just refuses to work - even after editing the map manually.

The only solution is to get an additional supported controller and attempt to lock it directly to the new embedded combinator, but since the Combi 2's midi implementation is so woeful there's no guarantee I can control beyond the first 4 buttons and knobs.

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Post 13 Jan 2022

So...when was it they "not promised" to have VST3 support? Can't remember. Also...they did say that the browser not collapsing bug would be fixed on the first update and I think we're already on the third right? Hmmm. Radio silence.
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Post 13 Jan 2022

MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022
So...whens was it they "not promised" to have VST3 support? Can't remember. Also...they did say that the browser not collapsing bug would be fixed on the first update and I think we're already on the third right? Hmmm. Radio silence.
I think vst3 was planned for same time as M1 around May 2022. No idea about the collapsing bug.

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Post 13 Jan 2022

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It should have been this month for completion but it was a plan not a promise
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Post 13 Jan 2022

MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022
So...when was it they "not promised" to have VST3 support? Can't remember. Also...they did say that the browser not collapsing bug would be fixed on the first update and I think we're already on the third right? Hmmm. Radio silence.
You can't really estimate bug fixes.

A bug can take hours, days, weeks or months to track down - and you won't know which one it is until you identify the cause. Some can even take years (but that's usually with much more complex systems).

Simple bugs caused by simply not implementing a feature can be estimated, as it doesn't involve hunting to find a cause.

The rendering bugs might have pushed everything back as that was a highly elusive and intermittent bug that didn't happen on every machine. They may have had to purchase or borrow various machine configurations and try to create different configuration states on each of those machines to isolate the problem (as you might find two people with the same hardware getting different results).
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Post 13 Jan 2022

Billy+ wrote:
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It should have been this month for completion but it was a plan not a promise
Ah I see. I thought the ceo had put this back in his roadmap update.

Ps. That deadline gif is hilarious

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Post 13 Jan 2022

avasopht wrote:
13 Jan 2022
MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022
So...when was it they "not promised" to have VST3 support? Can't remember. Also...they did say that the browser not collapsing bug would be fixed on the first update and I think we're already on the third right? Hmmm. Radio silence.
You can't really estimate bug fixes.

A bug can take hours, days, weeks or months to track down - and you won't know which one it is until you identify the cause. Some can even take years (but that's usually with much more complex systems).

Simple bugs caused by simply not implementing a feature can be estimated, as it doesn't involve hunting to find a cause.

The rendering bugs might have pushed everything back as that was a highly elusive and intermittent bug that didn't happen on every machine. They may have had to purchase or borrow various machine configurations and try to create different configuration states on each of those machines to isolate the problem (as you might find two people with the same hardware getting different results).
They actually told me it’d be working in the 2nd update. Who cares there’s bigger problems they need to fix.
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Post 13 Jan 2022

Popey wrote:
13 Jan 2022
Ah I see. I thought the ceo had put this back in his roadmap update.

Ps. That deadline gif is hilarious
Yeah I couldn't resist the gif, I was going to post it in the loading time thread but went for a image of my first computer (amstrad cpc 464)

As for the roadmap stuff I have no skin in the rack, I'm very much old school and won't be buying anything until I know what it includes for sure not what it might have at some point in the future possibly :lol:

Disappointed that I won't be testing the demo this month but it was inevitable especially given how well hidpi went/still is given that it was the major point for the rewrite and still isn't working properly I would be fine if it took another year to fully realise the roadmap

I say take your time and get it right I want a stable version that includes the features I'm paying.
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Post 13 Jan 2022

Why can't they implement in the meantime some sequencer updates like markers, record update or track folders....just as a little "snack" or nice gesture to calm down the situation. Is it really that much work? Other software did stuff like this years ago in point updates.

@ CEO:
Please new CEO, just do something to provide us users some small workflow features.

:thumbup:

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Post 13 Jan 2022

Eddi-16 wrote:
13 Jan 2022
Why can't they implement in the meantime some sequencer updates like markers, record update or track folders....just as a little "snack" or nice gesture to calm down the situation. Is it really that much work? Other software did stuff like this years ago in point updates.

@ CEO:
Please new CEO, just do something to provide us users some small workflow features.

:thumbup:
They need a stable codebase to iron out those bugs. Introducing new features now would only make the ongoing fixes more difficult.

But yeah, that roadmap is shot to hell.

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Post 13 Jan 2022

Arrant wrote:
13 Jan 2022
Eddi-16 wrote:
13 Jan 2022
Why can't they implement in the meantime some sequencer updates like markers, record update or track folders....just as a little "snack" or nice gesture to calm down the situation. Is it really that much work? Other software did stuff like this years ago in point updates.

@ CEO:
Please new CEO, just do something to provide us users some small workflow features.

:thumbup:
They need a stable codebase to iron out those bugs. Introducing new features now would only make the ongoing fixes more difficult.

But yeah, that roadmap is shot to hell.
Introducing new features now would only make the ongoing fixes more difficult.

Are you shure?

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MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022
They actually told me it’d be working in the 2nd update. Who cares there’s bigger problems they need to fix.
Everyone else with the bigger problems??
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Post 13 Jan 2022

Eddi-16 wrote:
13 Jan 2022
Are you shure?
Yes. We’re sure.
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Post 13 Jan 2022

avasopht wrote:
13 Jan 2022
MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022
They actually told me it’d be working in the 2nd update. Who cares there’s bigger problems they need to fix.
Everyone else with the bigger problems??
My biggest problem just now is that my Jazzmaster Ultra arrived today and there’s an earth problem with it. Sending it back tomorrow and I am sad.
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MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022
avasopht wrote:
13 Jan 2022


Everyone else with the bigger problems??
My biggest problem just now is that my Jazzmaster Ultra arrived today and there’s an earth problem with it. Sending it back tomorrow and I am sad.
Without the ability to play on Mars or on the ISS, I guess an "earth problem" is unavoidable. :lol: jk

Grounding issues always suck - sorry to hear your Jazzmaster Ultra was a bum unit. When you spend that kind of money and it's defective, that's maddening.
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Post 13 Jan 2022

EnochLight wrote:
13 Jan 2022
MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022


My biggest problem just now is that my Jazzmaster Ultra arrived today and there’s an earth problem with it. Sending it back tomorrow and I am sad.
Without the ability to play on Mars or on the ISS, I guess an "earth problem" is unavoidable. :lol: jk

Grounding issues always suck - sorry to hear your Jazzmaster Ultra was a bum unit. When you spend that kind of money and it's defective, that's maddening.
Sounds like someone's got Figger problems now :lol:
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Billy+ wrote:
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Sounds like someone's got Figger problems now :lol:
I approve of this dad joke. :lol:
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Post 13 Jan 2022

EnochLight wrote:
13 Jan 2022
MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022


My biggest problem just now is that my Jazzmaster Ultra arrived today and there’s an earth problem with it. Sending it back tomorrow and I am sad.
Without the ability to play on Mars or on the ISS, I guess an "earth problem" is unavoidable. :lol: jk

Grounding issues always suck - sorry to hear your Jazzmaster Ultra was a bum unit. When you spend that kind of money and it's defective, that's maddening.
Here’s the thing. They said they could fix and and give me some money back on it. Or they could give me a full refund. It’s uncertain when they’ll have more in stock as I think I just had luck that they got this one. So I don’t know what to do really.
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MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022
EnochLight wrote:
13 Jan 2022


Without the ability to play on Mars or on the ISS, I guess an "earth problem" is unavoidable. :lol: jk

Grounding issues always suck - sorry to hear your Jazzmaster Ultra was a bum unit. When you spend that kind of money and it's defective, that's maddening.
Here’s the thing. They said they could fix and and give me some money back on it. Or they could give me a full refund. It’s uncertain when they’ll have more in stock as I think I just had luck that they got this one. So I don’t know what to do really.
What colour did you get in the end?
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Post 13 Jan 2022

Billy+ wrote:
13 Jan 2022
MrFigg wrote:
13 Jan 2022


Here’s the thing. They said they could fix and and give me some money back on it. Or they could give me a full refund. It’s uncertain when they’ll have more in stock as I think I just had luck that they got this one. So I don’t know what to do really.
What colour did you get in the end?
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