Nektar Panorama

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Despondo
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Post 18 Sep 2021

Here's a Combinator I made for use with my Nektar Panorama P4. No controls are mapped to anything. It's basically a skin. I will probably tweak the design a bit and hopefully Reason Studios will add more button, knob and slider styles in the future.

Sharing it here for all the other Panorama owners.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zVqhSR ... sp=sharing

Here's the Extended version with all 10 Faders, 16 Knobs, 10 LED Buttons and 11 Function Keys.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CE2MoQ ... sp=sharing
Last edited by Despondo on 25 Sep 2021, edited 1 time in total.

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nemesjs
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Post 22 Sep 2021

This is nicely done and I'm only sorry I don't own a Panorama to try it!

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Despondo
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Post 22 Sep 2021

nemesjs wrote:
22 Sep 2021
This is nicely done and I'm only sorry I don't own a Panorama to try it!
Thanks. All done parametrically in Photoshop with Blending options on Layers. makes it easy to adjust. Only weird thing is that the labels look horrible on the faders with a background, so I turned them all off. The panorama itself has minimal labels anyway. I'm going to update with the motorized fader and the extra fader control, plus some more mappable buttons.

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Despondo
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Post 22 Sep 2021

Here's the Extended version with all 10 Faders, 16 Knobs, 10 LED Buttons and 11 Function Keys.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CE2MoQ ... sp=sharing

Onkel Paul
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Post 23 Sep 2021

WHY?
I am happy to have the hardware to touch.
Back to the mouse seems silly.

And who doesn't have the Panorama cannot benefit from this either.

What do I miss here?

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Ottostrom
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Post 23 Sep 2021

Onkel Paul wrote:
23 Sep 2021
And who doesn't have the Panorama cannot benefit from this either.

What do I miss here?
We can't start limiting the sharing of combinator patches to only be for stock stuff that everyone has..
Instead of criticizing what other people make for their specific workflow you could just make something yourself.

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Post 23 Sep 2021

I was thinking of sharing something related to the Minilogue XD, but I will wait until everyone have it :P
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Despondo
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Post 23 Sep 2021

Onkel Paul wrote:
23 Sep 2021
WHY?
I am happy to have the hardware to touch.
Back to the mouse seems silly.

And who doesn't have the Panorama cannot benefit from this either.

What do I miss here?
Don't forget to complain about these as well:

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Onkel Paul
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Post 23 Sep 2021

I do not complain, I am just asking if I do miss something.
I cannot see the benefit, but I might be too stupid.

Anyhow, nice graphics, a lot of work well done. If this is a proof of concept as its sole purpose it is still ok.

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Despondo
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Post 23 Sep 2021

Onkel Paul wrote:
23 Sep 2021
I do not complain, I am just asking if I do miss something.
I cannot see the benefit, but I might be too stupid.

Anyhow, nice graphics, a lot of work well done. If this is a proof of concept as its sole purpose it is still ok.
Thanks. I wasn't trying to be mean. I just saw others doing these and thought I'd do one for MY controller of choice. ;-)

Anyway, when you DO map the Nektar controller to this Combinator, it will give you visual feedback on the screen.
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Onkel Paul
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Post 23 Sep 2021

I see. Thank you for this explanation.
I wish you the best for getting it work with the faders as well.

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Despondo
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Post 23 Sep 2021

Onkel Paul wrote:
23 Sep 2021
I see. Thank you for this explanation.
I wish you the best for getting it work with the faders as well.
I got it to work. Just needed to change to Instrument vs Mixer mode. The motorized fader does not work though. :-(

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Post 24 Sep 2021

Onkel Paul wrote:
23 Sep 2021
WHY?
I am happy to have the hardware to touch.
Back to the mouse seems silly.

And who doesn't have the Panorama cannot benefit from this either.

What do I miss here?
For me it's a bridge between my MIDI controller and Reason, which makes hardware control of software parameters much more closely interlocked. So I create a Combi2 patch for my MIDI controller (in my case an Arturia Minilab 2). I make it part of my default Reason song then it's good to go every time I open Reason. I add devices to the Combi, map device parameters to the Combi2 controls (that are mapped to my MIDI controller's controls) label the Combi2 parameters appropriately. It's sublime. The nice backdrop is just the cherry on the cake. But what not have your cake ...... and eat it :thumbup:

Carrere
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Post 01 Oct 2021

Nice work. Excited to try it, but not sure how to do the mapping on the nektar end. Currently the rotary knobs on the right side of the physical device are moving the faders in your combi. Any hints on how to correctly map the physical controls to the correct controls on your combi?

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Post 01 Oct 2021

Excellent! You have a flair for elegant design.
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Post 02 Oct 2021

Carrere wrote:
01 Oct 2021
Nice work. Excited to try it, but not sure how to do the mapping on the nektar end. Currently the rotary knobs on the right side of the physical device are moving the faders in your combi. Any hints on how to correctly map the physical controls to the correct controls on your combi?
What I do is make sure I am in "Instrument" mode on the Panorama. Then I right click on a control and select "Edit Remote Override Mapping...". I then select "Nektar Panorama" as the control surface. I then browse to the control in the LOOOOOONNNNGGGG list until I get to the correct one. For example, if you want Fader number 3 on the combi to map to the Fader 3 on the Panorama, you need to select "Fader 3" in the pulldown list.

I'm trying to find a way to have this work more automatically, but need more time (and help?) to get it automapping to the controls. I guess with some kind of Remote Mapping.

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Despondo
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Post 02 Oct 2021

wendylou wrote:
01 Oct 2021
Excellent! You have a flair for elegant design.
Thank you! I enjoy a good Photoshop challenge. All of mine so far are very parametric and done with creative blending options on Layers.

Carrere
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Post 02 Oct 2021

Despondo wrote:
02 Oct 2021

What I do is make sure I am in "Instrument" mode on the Panorama. Then I right click on a control and select "Edit Remote Override Mapping...". I then select "Nektar Panorama" as the control surface. I then browse to the control in the LOOOOOONNNNGGGG list until I get to the correct one. For example, if you want Fader number 3 on the combi to map to the Fader 3 on the Panorama, you need to select "Fader 3" in the pulldown list.

I'm trying to find a way to have this work more automatically, but need more time (and help?) to get it automapping to the controls. I guess with some kind of Remote Mapping.
Thanks! I got it to work that way. Eventually someone will update the Nektar remote map file, which might make it a bit easier. Appreciate your work on this. Will make it easier to use the P4 for more flexible and creative controls in the new combinator.

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Post 04 Oct 2021

Nicely done! Very detailed work and much appreciated.

Years ago I created one for my Akai MPK 49. You've inspired me to revisit that combinator skin.
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Carrere
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Post 08 Oct 2021

In case anyone is interested, I built a reason map script that works with this skin.

Scope Propellerheads Combinator
Define Group Mode Instrument Mixer Transport Channel
// Control Surface Item Key Remotable Item Scale Mode

Define Group fadknob_view knob_view fad_view
Define Group force_patch_Feedback Patch 1 Patch 2
Define Group Env_Focus Env_view_1 Env_view_2

Map Mixer Mode Mode=Mixer
Map Instrument Mode Mode=Instrument
Map Transport Mode Mode=Transport
Map Channel Mode Mode=Channel

Map Device Name "_Combinator" INST
Map Patch Name Device Name Instrument

Map Patch Name Patch Name Instrument Patch 1
Map Patch Name Patch Name Instrument Patch 2
Map Force_patch_change force_patch_Feedback=Patch 1 Instrument Patch 2
Map Force_patch_change force_patch_Feedback=Patch 2 Instrument Patch 1

Map Display Default 0 Mixer
Map Encoder Select Up Env_Focus=Env_view_1 FADER_VIEW Instrument

Map Page Name "Faders" Instrument fad_view
Map Page Name "Knobs" Instrument knob_view
Map X1_Labeli "Faders" Instrument
Map X1 fadknob_view=fad_view FADERS Instrument knob_view
Map X2_Labeli "Knobs" Instrument
Map X2 fadknob_view=knob_view INST Instrument fad_view
Map X3_Labeli "Random" Instrument
Map X3 0 RANDOMIZE Instrument

Map Ctrl 1 Rotary 1
Map Ctrl 2 Rotary 2
Map Ctrl 3 Rotary 3
Map Ctrl 4 Rotary 4
Map Ctrl 5 Rotary 5
Map Ctrl 6 Rotary 6
Map Ctrl 7 Rotary 7
Map Ctrl 8 Rotary 8
Map Ctrl 9 Rotary 9
Map Ctrl 10 Rotary 10
Map Ctrl 11 Rotary 11
Map Ctrl 12 Rotary 12
Map Ctrl 13 Rotary 13
Map Ctrl 14 Rotary 14
Map Ctrl 15 Rotary 15
Map Ctrl 16 Rotary 16
Map Ctrl 17 Rotary 17
Map Ctrl 18 Rotary 18
Map Ctrl 19 Rotary 19
Map Ctrl 20 Rotary 20
Map Ctrl 21 Rotary 21
Map Ctrl 22 Rotary 22
Map Ctrl 23 Rotary 23
Map Ctrl 24 Rotary 24
Map Ctrl 25 Rotary 25
Map Ctrl 26 Rotary 26
Map Ctrl 27 Rotary 27
Map Ctrl 28 Rotary 28
Map Ctrl 29 Rotary 29
Map Ctrl 30 Rotary 30
Map Ctrl 31 Rotary 31
Map Ctrl 32 Rotary 32
Map Ctrl 33 Button 1
Map Ctrl 34 Button 2
Map Ctrl 35 Button 3
Map Ctrl 36 Button 4
Map Ctrl 37 Button 5
Map Ctrl 38 Button 6
Map Ctrl 39 Button 7
Map Ctrl 40 Button 8
Map Ctrl 41 Button 9
Map Ctrl 42 Button 10
Map Ctrl 43 Button 11
Map Ctrl 44 Button 12
Map Ctrl 45 Button 13
Map Ctrl 46 Button 14
Map Ctrl 47 Button 15
Map Ctrl 48 Button 16
Map Ctrl 49 Button 17
Map Ctrl 50 Button 18
Map Ctrl 51 Button 19
Map Ctrl 52 Button 20
Map Ctrl 53 Button 21
Map Ctrl 54 Button 22
Map Ctrl 55 Button 23
Map Ctrl 56 Button 24
Map Ctrl 57 Button 25
Map Ctrl 58 Button 26
Map Ctrl 59 Button 27
Map Ctrl 60 Button 28
Map Ctrl 61 Button 29
Map Ctrl 62 Button 30
Map Ctrl 63 Button 31
Map Ctrl 64 Button 32

Map Name Element 1 "R01" Instrument
Map Name Element 2 "R02" Instrument
Map Name Element 3 "R03" Instrument
Map Name Element 4 "R04" Instrument
Map Name Element 5 "R05" Instrument
Map Name Element 6 "R06" Instrument
Map Name Element 7 "R07" Instrument
Map Name Element 8 "R08" Instrument

Map Ch Knob 1 19 Name Instrument
Map Ch Knob 2 21 Name Instrument
Map Ch Knob 3 23 Name Instrument
Map Ch Knob 4 25 Name Instrument
Map Ch Knob 5 20 Name Instrument
Map Ch Knob 6 22 Name Instrument
Map Ch Knob 7 24 Name Instrument
Map Ch Knob 8 26 Name Instrument

Map Button 1 33 Instrument
Map Button 2 34 Instrument
Map Button 3 35 Instrument
Map Button 4 36 Instrument
Map Button 5 37 Instrument
Map Button 6 38 Instrument
Map Button 7 39 Instrument
Map Button 8 40 Instrument

Map Fader Name Element 1 "F1" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 2 "F2" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 3 "F3" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 4 "F4" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 5 "F5" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 6 "F6" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 7 "F7" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 8 "F8" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 9 "F9" FADERS Instrument

Map Fader 1 1 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 2 2 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 3 3 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 4 4 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 5 5 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 6 6 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 7 7 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 8 8 NAME Instrument
Map Fader 9 9 NAME Instrument

Map Fader Name Element 5e "" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 6e "" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 7e "" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 8e "" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 13e "" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 14e "" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 15e "" FADERS Instrument
Map Fader Name Element 16e "" FADERS Instrument

Map Knob 1 11 NAME Instrument
Map Knob 2 12 NAME Instrument
Map Knob 3 13 NAME Instrument
Map Knob 4 14 NAME Instrument
Map Knob 5 15 NAME Instrument
Map Knob 6 16 NAME Instrument
Map Knob 7 17 NAME Instrument
Map Knob 8 18 NAME Instrument

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Despondo
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Post 09 Oct 2021

Carrere wrote:
08 Oct 2021
In case anyone is interested, I built a reason map script that works with this skin.
Thanks! I'm more of a graphics person, so wasn't able to get to the remote map, so glad to see you did this. Will try it out. :-)

switchCase
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Post 05 Dec 2021

Thanks for this! Can someone school me on how to install / load that remote map file?

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Nick@NMHindman.com
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Post 05 Dec 2021

Faastwalker wrote:
24 Sep 2021
Onkel Paul wrote:
23 Sep 2021
WHY?
I am happy to have the hardware to touch.
Back to the mouse seems silly.

And who doesn't have the Panorama cannot benefit from this either.

What do I miss here?
For me it's a bridge between my MIDI controller and Reason, which makes hardware control of software parameters much more closely interlocked. So I create a Combi2 patch for my MIDI controller (in my case an Arturia Minilab 2). I make it part of my default Reason song then it's good to go every time I open Reason. I add devices to the Combi, map device parameters to the Combi2 controls (that are mapped to my MIDI controller's controls) label the Combi2 parameters appropriately. It's sublime. The nice backdrop is just the cherry on the cake. But what not have your cake ...... and eat it :thumbup:
I was thinking the same... I don't have a P4 (wish I did) but seems like a great way to create/save/load 'patches' for the P4, say to control a particular synth. Even if you never touch the combi controls, seems a useful too for setting up/saving routings. And then there's automation of the combi... Have to think outside the box on these things ;-)

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