Cakewalk vs Reason

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Post 06 Apr 2020

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Found a feature on Cakewalk recently that I've never heard of before called Snapshots. Do any other daw's have a similar feature?

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?p ... on.15.html
Me neither - my Cakewalk journey will start when Reason 12 drops.

But there are already a lot of features in Cakewalk that Reason doesn't have.


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Post 06 Apr 2020

Proboscis wrote:
06 Apr 2020
Creativemind wrote:
05 Apr 2020
Found a feature on Cakewalk recently that I've never heard of before called Snapshots. Do any other daw's have a similar feature?

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?p ... on.15.html
Me neither - my Cakewalk journey will start when Reason 12 drops.

But there are already a lot of features in Cakewalk that Reason doesn't have.


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They missed off Audio To Midi, Pitch Correction, Step Edit, Macros and Manual Parameter Inputs with Copy / Paste option or is that not the full list haha!

What site is that? I would like to see a comparison of Reaper and Cakewalk.
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Post 06 Apr 2020

Creativemind wrote:
05 Apr 2020
Found a feature on Cakewalk recently that I've never heard of before called Snapshots. Do any other daw's have a similar feature?

http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?p ... on.15.html
Snapshot automation was in early versions of Pro Tools IIRC (and maybe some MIDI sequencers before that?), so it's not a new feature (at least 20 if not 30 years old). :)
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Post 06 Apr 2020

No walking cakes for Mac users. No Logic for microsofters.

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Post 06 Apr 2020

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No walking cakes for Mac users. No Logic for microsofters.
Yeah I have a Windows computer and was really wanting to demo Logic using Virtual Box but apparently there's no Logic demo?
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Post 06 Apr 2020

Creativemind wrote:
06 Apr 2020
Yonatan wrote:
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No walking cakes for Mac users. No Logic for microsofters.
Yeah I have a Windows computer and was really wanting to demo Logic using Virtual Box but apparently there's no Logic demo?
Actually....

Logic Pro X has a 90 day demo lol. They just did this about a couple weeks ago?
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Kalm wrote:
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Yeah I have a Windows computer and was really wanting to demo Logic using Virtual Box but apparently there's no Logic demo?
Actually....

Logic Pro X has a 90 day demo lol. They just did this about a couple weeks ago?
Ahh interesting. I literally checked if there was a demo on the 21st March (I checked my download history on my computer as I did it the day after I downloaded Virtual Box). 16 Days ago lol!

All's I need now is a feature comparison list for Cakewalk, Logic and Reaper like the one above.
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Post 09 Sep 2021

As Reason 12 is unusable on my computer (every action is too slow), I am forced to find another DAW.
As I am on Windows, there is this free Cakewalk by bandlab.
I have tested it and I must admit that it's an amazing piece of software. And it looks great too. And very stable so far.
There is only one thing that annoy me, it's that there is a bug when you use the Reason Rack plugin within Cakewalk : you can't pass the keystrokes to the plugin, so you can't use Tab to flip the rack, or type something in the browser search field.
Don't know if it's Cakewalk or Reason fault, as it's OK in Cakewalk with other plugins, and it's OK in Reason in other DAWs.

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Post 09 Sep 2021

pquenin wrote:
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There is only one thing that annoy me, it's that there is a bug when you use the Reason Rack plugin within Cakewalk : you can't pass the keystrokes to the plugin, so you can't use Tab to flip the rack, or type something in the browser search field.
Don't know if it's Cakewalk or Reason fault, as it's OK in Cakewalk with other plugins, and it's OK in Reason in other DAWs.
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Post 09 Sep 2021

I don’t frequent the Bandlab forum, so am not sure if it’s a global issue (or a particular issue on your end only). Just looking now at a short forum post from September 2nd, nobody so far has identified it as an issue. But agreed, the disabled TAB key would be a small frustration. Still, there’s the ‘flip rack’ button.

Your post bump is a timely one. Upon the release of R12, I again revisited the DAW and installed a fresh version of Cakewalk. Still have the same problems of sample rate hijacking my PC’s settings, which makes it unusable for me at this time. To be clear though, this is a known issue on my end rather than a Cakewalk problem, as I have dramas with OBS as well. My studio computer is an ex-school end of lease device, and there are other things that are also locked down (like disabled camera settings)

In reviewing my feature comparison list from 18 months ago, has Reason 11 point updates or Reason 12 release added ANY of these features to date ?

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Post 09 Sep 2021

As a long term Cakewalk user who has come to Reason recently I would say that using Cakewalk and Reason Rack compliment each other so well that they end up being more than the sum of each part.
What Reason lacks Cakewalk covers and visa versa.
I was in despair when Cakewalk folded, but since Bandlab took over, Cakewalk is better than ever.
Adding Kushview Element into the mix so I can run my old Cakewalk legacy DXs and VSTs inside Reason was the third piece of the puzzle.

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Post 09 Sep 2021

More long time or short time Cakewalk users sharing their experience here would be cool.
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Post 10 Sep 2021

I used it for a short while, as I missed a linear sequencer (well sort of) in Live. Although it has one, I don't like it. So I used Cakewalk for a while, but switched to Reason 11 suite, which works better for me personally. I don't know 12, because I haven't got to beta it, although I signed up for it.......

But with computerparts rising in price, and my PC is getting old - I think I pass on 12 anyway. My PC is fitted with a i7-7700 and 16 Mb ram.
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Post 10 Sep 2021

orthodox wrote:
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pquenin wrote:
09 Sep 2021
There is only one thing that annoy me, it's that there is a bug when you use the Reason Rack plugin within Cakewalk : you can't pass the keystrokes to the plugin, so you can't use Tab to flip the rack, or type something in the browser search field.
Don't know if it's Cakewalk or Reason fault, as it's OK in Cakewalk with other plugins, and it's OK in Reason in other DAWs.
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Thanks, but I am aware of this button, but it has no effect with RRP... Does it works for you ?

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Post 10 Sep 2021

pquenin wrote:
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Thanks, but I am aware of this button, but it has no effect with RRP... Does it works for you ?
Indeed it does not work. Sorry, didn't check it.

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Post 10 Sep 2021

I don't see why this thread is "Cakewalk vs Reason" when it can and should be "Cakewalk + Reason" thanks to RS innovative approach of turning Reason into a VST plugin.

BTW, I love that Cakewalk is free! It's amazing that Bandlab bought the rights and brought it back... for free! Cakewalk was my first ever DAW and I loved it. I've downloaded the new Cakewalk but only seem to use it for beta testing purposes.. I just feel claustrophobic in DAWs other than Reason.
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Post 10 Sep 2021

hu! cakewalk is for free! now this is cool and f****** awesome!

i started my music journey with CakeWalk... like 30 years ago? hehe...
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Post 10 Sep 2021

challism wrote:
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I don't see why this thread is "Cakewalk vs Reason" when it can and should be "Cakewalk + Reason" thanks to RS innovative approach of turning Reason into a VST plugin.
why “should” it be both? if you want to compare features of the DAWs, it doesn’t make sense to just talk about the RRP. it’s a lovely sentiment, but meaningless in the context of the discussion.
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Post 10 Sep 2021

guitfnky wrote:
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challism wrote:
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I don't see why this thread is "Cakewalk vs Reason" when it can and should be "Cakewalk + Reason" thanks to RS innovative approach of turning Reason into a VST plugin.
why “should” it be both? if you want to compare features of the DAWs, it doesn’t make sense to just talk about the RRP. it’s a lovely sentiment, but meaningless in the context of the discussion.
It should be both because both is possible with the RRP. The sentiment of the OP is to "abandon" Reason as a DAW. But why not just take the RRP with you on your journey into Cakewalk? I said it "should" be, because there are obviously some things the OP likes about Reason and there really is no reason to give it up 100%. For all intents and purposes, this is a good thread about Calkwalk features, etc. I just thought the "vs" in the title would have better served with a "plus". My opinion, maybe not yours.
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Post 10 Sep 2021

challism wrote:
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why “should” it be both? if you want to compare features of the DAWs, it doesn’t make sense to just talk about the RRP. it’s a lovely sentiment, but meaningless in the context of the discussion.
It should be both because both is possible with the RRP. The sentiment of the OP is to "abandon" Reason as a DAW. But why not just take the RRP with you on your journey into Cakewalk? I said it "should" be, because there are obviously some things the OP likes about Reason and there really is no reason to give it up 100%. For all intents and purposes, this is a good thread about Calkwalk features, etc. I just thought the "vs" in the title would have better served with a "plus". My opinion, maybe not yours.
this assumes RRP is as good as Reason stand-alone. it’s not.

contrasted with stand-alone, RRP becomes just another plugin. sure, a really versatile one, but just a plugin. less than, or at best equal to the sum of its parts. Reason stand-alone, on the other hand, is greater than the sum of its parts—but that’s still not enough to make up for the relative wasteland of features compared to other DAWs.

so yes, the DAW vs. DAW question is very relevant.
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Post 11 Sep 2021

guitfnky wrote:
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challism wrote:
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It should be both because both is possible with the RRP. The sentiment of the OP is to "abandon" Reason as a DAW. But why not just take the RRP with you on your journey into Cakewalk? I said it "should" be, because there are obviously some things the OP likes about Reason and there really is no reason to give it up 100%. For all intents and purposes, this is a good thread about Calkwalk features, etc. I just thought the "vs" in the title would have better served with a "plus". My opinion, maybe not yours.
this assumes RRP is as good as Reason stand-alone. it’s not.

contrasted with stand-alone, RRP becomes just another plugin. sure, a really versatile one, but just a plugin. less than, or at best equal to the sum of its parts. Reason stand-alone, on the other hand, is greater than the sum of its parts—but that’s still not enough to make up for the relative wasteland of features compared to other DAWs.

so yes, the DAW vs. DAW question is very relevant.
It seems to me that some people approach the Internet with the sole purpose of arguing. How is that working out for you? Geeze. My whole point is that it's not an everything or nothing situation. I think I'm done responding.
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Post 11 Sep 2021

challism wrote:
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guitfnky wrote:
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this assumes RRP is as good as Reason stand-alone. it’s not.

contrasted with stand-alone, RRP becomes just another plugin. sure, a really versatile one, but just a plugin. less than, or at best equal to the sum of its parts. Reason stand-alone, on the other hand, is greater than the sum of its parts—but that’s still not enough to make up for the relative wasteland of features compared to other DAWs.

so yes, the DAW vs. DAW question is very relevant.
It seems to me that some people approach the Internet with the sole purpose of arguing. How is that working out for you? Geeze. My whole point is that it's not an everything or nothing situation. I think I'm done responding.
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and yet here you are…arguing…with the premise of the post…and with me…

come on, man, have a little self awareness.
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Post 11 Sep 2021

guitfnky wrote:
10 Sep 2021
this assumes RRP is as good as Reason stand-alone. it’s not.

contrasted with stand-alone, RRP becomes just another plugin. sure, a really versatile one, but just a plugin. less than, or at best equal to the sum of its parts. Reason stand-alone, on the other hand, is greater than the sum of its parts—but that’s still not enough to make up for the relative wasteland of features compared to other DAWs.

so yes, the DAW vs. DAW question is very relevant.
I find it's a bit of both.

Of course, Reason Standalone has more features than RRP.

But with RRP, you can have lots of self-contained racks. If we could get that in Reason, man, that would be the ultimate workflow boost.

Pretty sure someone tried RRP in Reason via a VST3 wrapper.
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Post 11 Sep 2021

i just tried CakeWalk for the first time after cca 25 years when i firstly tried CW and i must say i rocks!
cool peace of program. i shall study it till i will be able to do a complete song.
so far i just created some beat using patch/preset with default drum set and applied over some guitar distortion FX.
cool, nice.

anyway: i said in other thread something about CW that it is non intuitive with it's GUI. GUI is somehow a bit messy. i thikn so. but i'll learn it. because it is a great app as i can see - still good and so - and i got it for FREE. thanks goes to BandLab crew. // was CW free all this time or just now when they are celebrating 30 years of existence?
and i also told to my very good friend that he can grab CW for free. it was insta grab. hehe. he said it is cool. very nice.

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Post 12 Sep 2021

challism wrote:
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It seems to me that some people approach the Internet with the sole purpose of arguing. How is that working out for you?
How's it working out for you ?

Since this thread resurged, you've said what it 'should' be about. Twice !

What this thread is about is Reason DAW in comparison to Cakewalk DAW.

And the many, many shortcomings with the former. (even now, with the drop of Reason12/+)

What this thread is not about, is using Reason as a plugin.

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