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Post 01 Jul 2021

A faithful one accuses a doubter of a lack of scientific competence.

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A faithful one accuses a doubter of a lack of scientific competence.
Hard to tell who's who.
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Post 01 Jul 2021

bxbrkrz wrote:
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orthodox wrote:
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A faithful one accuses a doubter of a lack of scientific competence.
Hard to tell who's who.
The narrator seems to be seeking for mystery and miracles, but some bad men burst the bubble. They must be hiding something for sure. It's a religion with no chance to prove or disprove anything. It's been over 100 years since people started fantasizing about aliens, yet no progress has ever been made. Except for vast amounts of fiction works.
People don't want the truth, they want some mystery.

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Post 01 Jul 2021

orthodox wrote:
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bxbrkrz wrote:
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Hard to tell who's who.
The narrator seems to be seeking for mystery and miracles, but some bad men burst the bubble. They must be hiding something for sure. It's a religion with no chance to prove or disprove anything. It's been over 100 years since people started fantasizing about aliens, yet no progress has ever been made. Except for vast amounts of fiction works.
People don't want the truth, they want some mystery.
I believe the narrator agrees with Neil deGrasse Tyson. See Eye Eh man is there for support and comfort, but to whom, the narrator or Neil? It's confusing, but FUD was part of his old job.
Angels are way more popular than Aliens, and for more than 100 years. Maybe you've heard of Our Lady of Kibeho? You should find videos about the girls on YT.
A miracle is what was before the Big Band. We should not question it :puf_smile:
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Post 01 Jul 2021

bxbrkrz wrote:
01 Jul 2021
orthodox wrote:
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The narrator seems to be seeking for mystery and miracles, but some bad men burst the bubble. They must be hiding something for sure. It's a religion with no chance to prove or disprove anything. It's been over 100 years since people started fantasizing about aliens, yet no progress has ever been made. Except for vast amounts of fiction works.
People don't want the truth, they want some mystery.
I believe the narrator agrees with Neil deGrasse Tyson. See Eye Eh man is there for support and comfort, but to whom, the narrator or Neil? It's confusing, but FUD was part of his old job.
Angels are way more popular than Aliens, and for more than 100 years. Maybe you've heard of Our Lady of Kibeho? You should find videos about the girls on YT.
A miracle is what was before the Big Band. We should not question it :puf_smile:
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt versus Mysterium Tremendum et Fascinans (a mystery, terrifying and fascinating). Between the two I'd choose the former, because mystery is certainly a delusion. Everything must go wrongly and tediously, so nobody could get proud of themselves, so they felt sad and confused.

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Post 01 Jul 2021

orthodox wrote:
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I believe the narrator agrees with Neil deGrasse Tyson. See Eye Eh man is there for support and comfort, but to whom, the narrator or Neil? It's confusing, but FUD was part of his old job.
Angels are way more popular than Aliens, and for more than 100 years. Maybe you've heard of Our Lady of Kibeho? You should find videos about the girls on YT.
A miracle is what was before the Big Band. We should not question it :puf_smile:
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt versus Mysterium Tremendum et Fascinans (a mystery, terrifying and fascinating). Between the two I'd choose the former, because mystery is certainly a delusion. Everything must go wrongly and tediously, so nobody could get proud of themselves, so they felt sad and confused.
Manufactured mysteries and manufactured fascination are fine with me. It's fun, like producing music. Strange lights in the skies (for 1000s of years) never hurt anyone.

Manufacturing terror? Not a big fan.
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bxbrkrz wrote:
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Strange lights in the skies (for 1000s of years) never hurt anyone.
Didn't they? I heard many broke through to the other side and ended up in a mental institution.
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Manufacturing terror? Not a big fan.
That's even more insane.

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orthodox wrote:
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bxbrkrz wrote:
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Strange lights in the skies (for 1000s of years) never hurt anyone.
Didn't they? I heard many broke through to the other side and ended up in a mental institution.
bxbrkrz wrote:
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Manufacturing terror? Not a big fan.
That's even more insane.
If someone ends up in a mental institution, because of a made up story of lights in the skies, you can't blame it on something that does not scientifically exist.
Thus strange lights in the skies (for 1000s of years) never hurt anyone :puf_smile:

You should check the story of Barney and Betty Hill one day. For fun.
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bxbrkrz wrote:
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If someone ends up in a mental institution, because of a made up story of lights in the skies, you can't blame it on something that does not scientifically exist.
Thus strange lights in the skies (for 1000s of years) never hurt anyone :puf_smile:
I don't blame things, I'm just speaking out against obsession with mystery or fear, or anything. If the UFO thing was the theme of a song, I must have missed the irony and overreacted.
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You should check the story of Barney and Betty Hill one day. For fun.
Some day maybe.

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orthodox wrote:
01 Jul 2021
bxbrkrz wrote:
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If someone ends up in a mental institution, because of a made up story of lights in the skies, you can't blame it on something that does not scientifically exist.
Thus strange lights in the skies (for 1000s of years) never hurt anyone :puf_smile:
I don't blame things, I'm just speaking out against obsession with mystery or fear, or anything. If the UFO thing was the theme of a song, I must have missed the irony and overreacted.
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You should check the story of Barney and Betty Hill one day. For fun.
Some day maybe.
I don't see the connection between fear and UFO. Fear, and control by fear, was around way before the strange lights in the sky. Maybe some people need fear in their lives, doesn't matter UFO, or anything else.
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I don't see the connection between fear and UFO. Fear, and control by fear, was around way before the strange lights in the sky. Maybe some people need fear in their lives, doesn't matter UFO, or anything else.
I didn't say UFOs cause fear, fear relates to that bomb clip. UFO is rather about thrill, fascination of meeting with the unknown. I don't mind watching movies exploiting either feeling. It just seems weird when people take those extremes for real, not just as a metaphor.

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Post 02 Jul 2021

orthodox wrote:
01 Jul 2021
bxbrkrz wrote:
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I don't see the connection between fear and UFO. Fear, and control by fear, was around way before the strange lights in the sky. Maybe some people need fear in their lives, doesn't matter UFO, or anything else.
I didn't say UFOs cause fear, fear relates to that bomb clip. UFO is rather about thrill, fascination of meeting with the unknown. I don't mind watching movies exploiting either feeling. It just seems weird when people take those extremes for real, not just as a metaphor.
Is it weird when governments do it?
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bxbrkrz wrote:
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orthodox wrote:
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I didn't say UFOs cause fear, fear relates to that bomb clip. UFO is rather about thrill, fascination of meeting with the unknown. I don't mind watching movies exploiting either feeling. It just seems weird when people take those extremes for real, not just as a metaphor.
Is it weird when governments do it?
Do what? Take it seriously? No, it's not.
Governments just reflect the state of mind of the people when the delusion starts to be a significant factor. Either they see it as a new political opportunity and use it, or they see it as a threat to public health and order and suppress it.

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orthodox wrote:
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bxbrkrz wrote:
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Is it weird when governments do it?
Do what? Take it seriously? No, it's not.
Governments just reflect the state of mind of the people when the delusion starts to be a significant factor. Either they see it as a new political opportunity and use it, or they see it as a threat to public health and order and suppress it.
This is true for any belief a government sees as a threat, not just UFO believers.
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bxbrkrz wrote:
02 Jul 2021
orthodox wrote:
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Do what? Take it seriously? No, it's not.
Governments just reflect the state of mind of the people when the delusion starts to be a significant factor. Either they see it as a new political opportunity and use it, or they see it as a threat to public health and order and suppress it.
This is true for any belief a government sees as a threat, not just UFO believers.
Guess governments may occasionally be right.

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orthodox wrote:
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bxbrkrz wrote:
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This is true for any belief a government sees as a threat, not just UFO believers.
Guess governments may occasionally be right.
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Post 03 Jul 2021

orthodox wrote:
01 Jul 2021
bxbrkrz wrote:
01 Jul 2021
I don't see the connection between fear and UFO. Fear, and control by fear, was around way before the strange lights in the sky. Maybe some people need fear in their lives, doesn't matter UFO, or anything else.
I didn't say UFOs cause fear, fear relates to that bomb clip. UFO is rather about thrill, fascination of meeting with the unknown. I don't mind watching movies exploiting either feeling. It just seems weird when people take those extremes for real, not just as a metaphor.
I think this is an interesting aspect of the discussion, our psychological predisposition to mystery and enchantment. Some find movies and fiction more than enough to scratch that itch, others develop a bit of an addiction to constant revelation and there are more than enough internet grifters to supply your fix.

On the other hand I see a similar but opposite predisposition in people who crave normalcy and not having their general working paradigm of "how things are" disrupted. You see this in discussion of things like JFK etc...the side people come down on seems ultimately down to their emotional make up as a human being rather than any rational assessment (which itself may actually be beyond us, way too many variables)

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orthodox wrote:
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I didn't say UFOs cause fear, fear relates to that bomb clip. UFO is rather about thrill, fascination of meeting with the unknown. I don't mind watching movies exploiting either feeling. It just seems weird when people take those extremes for real, not just as a metaphor.
I think this is an interesting aspect of the discussion, our psychological predisposition to mystery and enchantment. Some find movies and fiction more than enough to scratch that itch, others develop a bit of an addiction to constant revelation and there are more than enough internet grifters to supply your fix.

On the other hand I see a similar but opposite predisposition in people who crave normalcy and not having their general working paradigm of "how things are" disrupted. You see this in discussion of things like JFK etc...the side people come down on seems ultimately down to their emotional make up as a human being rather than any rational assessment (which itself may actually be beyond us, way too many variables)
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Post 21 Jul 2021

UFO/UAPs phenomenon as been confirmed real by the US Government.
There are Ariel vehicles operating without permission in restricted US military airspace that can out manoeuvre US aircraft (can drop from 80,000ft to 50ft in less than a second with no sonic boom, accelerate extremely fast, stop on penny etc..).

They can jam military radar, can switch off nukes, have no visible forms or propulsion. Can operate in water, air and space.

They have been documented for thousands of years and in oral traditions like the Aboriginal people a lot longer.

Greys have been reported all over the world by different cultures. They all report the same physical looking humanoids.

Abductions have been reported all over the world and the reports are all broadly similar with subjects being paralysed and the use of mental telepathy.

Cattle mutilations have been reported all over the world. People that have been near them have reported luminous objects nearby.

And there is nothing any world government can do about it. That is why there isn’t any meaningful disclosure. If the government told the people what is really going on most of them would freak.

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Post 21 Jul 2021

So the question is: Why did they put the UFOs in this simulation? ;)
If you're in Aachen, come and visit us at the Voidspace. ... Pool's closed due to corona.

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Post 21 Jul 2021

“Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world?"

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