Drum and Bass / My Style Skimrok
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Ok - hot off the press response...
Love the deep pad beginning. The vox sample at :10 hit you a little too abrubtly. Either reduce volume or... do a trick of reversing it and run that at really low vol just before forward running vox - so that you give the listener a pre-empt that something is coming.
Like the way you intro the drums. Then you introduce the cut up melody. And at last you to take it on a journey - seriously... at last I feel like you've got it nailed.
PLUS what I really like is that you have a "sound" - I know it's you.
Mix wise... I feel that you are missing some LO-MID girth. There seems to be a lack of weight in the lower end. BUT don't take this as a negative...as I really like your productions now. The mix just need a little more polish.
THUMBS UP.
Love the deep pad beginning. The vox sample at :10 hit you a little too abrubtly. Either reduce volume or... do a trick of reversing it and run that at really low vol just before forward running vox - so that you give the listener a pre-empt that something is coming.
Like the way you intro the drums. Then you introduce the cut up melody. And at last you to take it on a journey - seriously... at last I feel like you've got it nailed.
PLUS what I really like is that you have a "sound" - I know it's you.
Mix wise... I feel that you are missing some LO-MID girth. There seems to be a lack of weight in the lower end. BUT don't take this as a negative...as I really like your productions now. The mix just need a little more polish.
THUMBS UP.
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Really cool track skimrok. May i ask how you made the sound around 3minutes 10 (hard to describe it but reminded me a lot of the andy c?shimon sounds around the time of turbulance on ram records. There is definately a flow to your tracks now.
I agree with Dan C about the vocal and one trick a producer taught me was to take the first syllable of the vocal and put it on a seperate track and then add a reverb 100% wet with about 5 seconds of verb time. You can then bounce this to a new channel and reverse it so that the reverb ends just when the actual vocal hits (like a riser going into the vocal if that makes sense). This also works for synth sounds etc and might be what Dan C refers to above or similar.
I agree with Dan C about the vocal and one trick a producer taught me was to take the first syllable of the vocal and put it on a seperate track and then add a reverb 100% wet with about 5 seconds of verb time. You can then bounce this to a new channel and reverse it so that the reverb ends just when the actual vocal hits (like a riser going into the vocal if that makes sense). This also works for synth sounds etc and might be what Dan C refers to above or similar.
@ Dan thanks for the feedback I'm going to try that with the Vox good idea i try my best with the mid low beef i may get something like tonal balance or span and try and look at this so its in my sights moving forward, do a little check list before moving on to another tune , the mix is it best i do another mix down because of above or would it come apparent when doing it? just feeling for your thoughts how you would tackle this really
i take a week off doing nothing and then i do it with fresh ears once i got a battle plan together he!he!
i take a week off doing nothing and then i do it with fresh ears once i got a battle plan together he!he!
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Popey that sound is actually a sample i just relooked so no credit on my behalf on that one, i started to get my teeth into Serum and been playing with some online tutorials regarding making patches for DnB then you take it to your own direction, there is a guy called Stranjah which has been a producer since the 90s he is actually really good to look at on youtube because he really talks what he does to achieve XY Z ive been picking up little ideas as i go alongPopey wrote: β07 Jun 2021Really cool track skimrok. May i ask how you made the sound around 3minutes 10 (hard to describe it but reminded me a lot of the andy c?shimon sounds around the time of turbulance on ram records. There is definately a flow to your tracks now.
I agree with Dan C about the vocal and one trick a producer taught me was to take the first syllable of the vocal and put it on a seperate track and then add a reverb 100% wet with about 5 seconds of verb time. You can then bounce this to a new channel and reverse it so that the reverb ends just when the actual vocal hits (like a riser going into the vocal if that makes sense). This also works for synth sounds etc and might be what Dan C refers to above or similar.
yeah between you and Dan I'm sure i crack that with the vocal which without you and him i wouldn't even thought of that idea so yeah I'm really looking forward to playing in due course
I take a week off to gather my thoughts and i get back on it
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Hi Skimrok no worries it is just a sound I want to be able to create so perhaps I will put turbelance in a session and work about making the same sound in serum.
I watch stranjah videos too and have learnt a fair bit from him and it is also worth looking at fox sound design tutorials (sdt) and artfx if you have not done so already. I am ok at creating sounds it is just mixing and mastering I suck at
I watch stranjah videos too and have learnt a fair bit from him and it is also worth looking at fox sound design tutorials (sdt) and artfx if you have not done so already. I am ok at creating sounds it is just mixing and mastering I suck at
Regarding mix balance... I personally do it as I go... however, I've learnt to create a track using monitor speakers and then at a good point put on a pair of good headphones and start getting really surgical with mix balance (e.g. tonal balance). I often do this before I get too far down the road in arrangement building. So - to clarify... monitors to get a good loop vibe going. Then headphones on for surgical levels. Then back to monitors for arranging. Come back to headphone here and there after to ensure it sounds cool.Skimrok wrote: β07 Jun 2021@ Dan thanks for the feedback I'm going to try that with the Vox good idea i try my best with the mid low beef i may get something like tonal balance or span and try and look at this so its in my sights moving forward, do a little check list before moving on to another tune , the mix is it best i do another mix down because of above or would it come apparent when doing it? just feeling for your thoughts how you would tackle this really
i take a week off doing nothing and then i do it with fresh ears once i got a battle plan together he!he!
And... the point of me telling you this... I do mix balance later in my production work. So - it's fine to go into your mix now and fix all these little things.
As for battle plan. I often listen to my track many many times over a space of many days... and literally make an edit list (line item.... time occurred - edit required). Plus I add some overarching comments in the list if it happens all over the place (e.g. snare drum too loud throughout).
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Sounds bad ass to me! Let me ask, how do you get your mix so incredibly loud! I can't get close to that kind of loudness while at the same time sounding really good!
Thank you everybody i running behind on this i think i give it a crack next week
@ TheGodOfRainbows loudness has been something has evolved after time with my tunes i.e. with the limiter is not working hard on the whole tune , I don't know the science really about it all I'm just using my ears before it breaks apart , I do have a couple of tunes as reference points by other Artists and I try to find a happy medium I'm not near there standards but it does help me
@ TheGodOfRainbows loudness has been something has evolved after time with my tunes i.e. with the limiter is not working hard on the whole tune , I don't know the science really about it all I'm just using my ears before it breaks apart , I do have a couple of tunes as reference points by other Artists and I try to find a happy medium I'm not near there standards but it does help me
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Drums are the standout here, great work programming and producing. The ambient parts at the beginning and in the middle could do with a bit more "space" IMHO, and the transitions between the parts are a bit abrupt.
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Thanks for the feedback
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You should take inspiration from indian rhythms and time signatures. Listen to ustad Zakir Hussain on tabla or toufiq qureshi on percussion.
Years ago I did a project called ksha. Still there on my reverbnation profile. Where I merged drum n bass with indian tabla rhythms . Try doing something like that. I'll give you new spaces to explore.
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Years ago I did a project called ksha. Still there on my reverbnation profile. Where I merged drum n bass with indian tabla rhythms . Try doing something like that. I'll give you new spaces to explore.
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Thank You Dan
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cool I check that out when i have 5 thanks for the heads upvisheshl wrote: β27 Jun 2021You should take inspiration from indian rhythms and time signatures. Listen to ustad Zakir Hussain on tabla or toufiq qureshi on percussion.
Years ago I did a project called ksha. Still there on my reverbnation profile. Where I merged drum n bass with indian tabla rhythms . Try doing something like that. I'll give you new spaces to explore.
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