Task manager. Look at it. And defragmenting when you use an SSD is stupid.Heigen5 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021I have a minimal set of software installed on to my PC (Win 10) and I take perfect care of it by deleting the junk-files, defragmenting it etc. Yet it seems to be slower than ever after all these years and some of my songs I created back then, without any glitches, start to crackle now, - when opening and playing them back. My i7 nowadays isn't sometimes fast enough anymore. What is the reason for such an entropy then?
The Evergoing entropy regarding the CPU use of our computers
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I'm pretty sure Windows automatically defragments anyway. there's really no need to do it manually, regardless whether you have an SSD or not.
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It all depends on the scale of use of the OS, I'm sure many of us do not use even 40% of the functionality embedded in these system
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Stupid?
Naaa.. Windows will defrag an SSD once a month if volume snapshots are enabled. This is by design and necessary due to slow volsnap copy on write performance on fragmented SSD volumes. It’s also somewhat of a misconception that fragmentation is not a problem on SSDs. If an SSD gets too fragmented you can hit maximum file fragmentation (when the metadata can’t represent any more file fragments) which will result in errors when you try to write/extend a file. Furthermore, more file fragments means more metadata to process while reading/writing a file, which can lead to slower performance.
^^ THIS ^^
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Yeah I don't know about that... I've been on the same desktop build for almost 10 years. Ideally you want to build/buy the most powerful computer your budget will allow to get the most mileage out of it, IMHO.
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There is Windows S mode, which I haven't tested yet. Anyone tried it?
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Windows S mode locks you out of installing any 3rd party programs that aren't sold in the Microsoft Store. it's really meant for schools and other institutions where they don't want their users installing their own stuff on them. Reason won't run on Windows S-mode enabled devices, as it can't be installed on them.
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Wasted opportunity! That's a shameEnochLight wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021Windows S mode locks you out of installing any 3rd party programs that aren't sold in the Microsoft Store. it's really meant for schools and other institutions where they don't want their users installing their own stuff on them. Reason won't run on Windows S-mode enabled devices, as it can't be installed on them.
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I mean, for the use that it is intended - it works great. It serves as an "iOS-like" approach, and keeps things running fast and stable, with virtually no chance of installing malware or anything else that can compromise the device it's running on. My kid's laptop came in Windows-S mode, and it ran like lightening for the 4 months it was running in S-mode. Then they complained that they wanted Chrome and Genshin Impact and blah blah blah, so I switched it to regular Windows 10 "Home". The kid is happy they have all their wares, but the laptop has taken a noticeable hit in performance, mostly because of all of the crap that starts at startup now.
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That's cool that it has it's uses.EnochLight wrote: ↑23 Mar 2021I mean, for the use that it is intended - it works great. It serves as an "iOS-like" approach, and keeps things running fast and stable, with virtually no chance of installing malware or anything else that can compromise the device it's running on. My kid's laptop came in Windows-S mode, and it ran like lightening for the 4 months it was running in S-mode. Then they complained that they wanted Chrome and Genshin Impact and blah blah blah, so I switched it to regular Windows 10 "Home". The kid is happy they have all their wares, but the laptop has taken a noticeable hit in performance, mostly because of all of the crap that starts at startup now.
I also tried Windows Server but was having compatibility issues with apps. I guess I'll stick to manual optimization for now!
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Here is a recently updated guide to optimization for people that are not computer geeks:
https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... indows-10/
https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... indows-10/
Yes. Stupid.
https://www.crucial.com/articles/about- ... rag-an-ssd
But I'm sure you know BETTER THAN A MANUFACTURER RIGHT?
Yeah if you're stupid enough not to change the setting. Man. Headdesking all day long.
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I have a SATA drive. But if defragmenting is not needed, will it still harm anything even when doing it? Anyway this whole topic turned to a defragmenting discussion, even that's only an one thing related to a CPU-entropy.
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Careful - closed head trauma isn't good!
On a serious note, there are instances where defragging an SSD is optimal:
https://www.hanselman.com/blog/the-real ... t-your-ssd
But I'd imagine if you don't use volume snapshots, it's probably not a thing.
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Defragmenting is, periodically, a good thing for regular conventional sata drives with spinning platters. Absolutely useless for an SSD drive, sata or not.
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If you run Windows 10 (I assume you do) you can just buy an SSD, clone your existing drive to it, and boot it up. And enjoy about 1000% increase in speed.
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You mean my Reason projects would also get 1000% speed-boost then?
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1000% might not be precisely correct. But the jump from HDD to SSD is quite striking. In many ways it feels like buying a computer from a few years in the future.
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Ok, well that's a good news. I might buy one then. Thanks for the TIP guys.integerpoet wrote: ↑02 Apr 20211000% might not be precisely correct. But the jump from HDD to SSD is quite striking. In many ways it feels like buying a computer from a few years in the future.
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On a serious note, this is what upgrading to an SSD from an old mechanical hard drive will do:
- make your computer boot faster from a full shut down
- make your computer restart faster when needed
- make programs that are installed on it launch faster
- write/read data much faster
- make your computer “feel” faster in general
- read/write data to your RAM faster
- eliminate noise that you’d normally hear when your mechanical hard drive platters spin up and read/write data
- usually use slightly less power than an old mechanical hard drive
What it won’t do:
- have any affect on your CPU performance or programs that utilize your CPU
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