
am, just tell me - is this a new version of reason? - like v12? i am a bit confused. sorry. my pardon.
Hi everyone!! James here from Reason Studios. I am the PM on the Reason+ project. I'll introduce myself properly here later once I catch upLoque wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021Hopefully this is a bug and you wont get charged automaticallyNeo wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021
https://www.reasonstudios.com/plus/subscriber/
Looks like my automatic trial~ has already started.
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Hey! I'm James. I'm the PM (together with Mattias) on the Reason+ project. I'll be answering everything for sure, but it may take me some time to catch up
I can understand, that there is a bit fear around. Also that 11 was mainly for other DAW users felt a bit "huhh?"...
jamespember wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021
Hi everyone!! James here from Reason Studios. I am the PM on the Reason+ project. I'll introduce myself properly here later once I catch up![]()
But there is no bug, you will of course not be charged unless you actively add your credit card details before the trial ends. It says "Make sure to update your billing info to not lose access!".
Hi there! James here from Reason Studios (I'll introduce myself in a new thread properly later).guitfnky wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021I might be misunderstanding your point, but you can still pay for new versions as normal if you prefer (thank god).Billy+ wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021So I should have not brought anything for the last few years and got it all for £20 a month, I think I will wait till you fix vst midi and pay my £20 then cancel!
Q1) how do I get updates without paying £20 a month?
I've been using Reason since V1 and this is my reward.... rewards I can't use and a £20 a month bill for products I've already paid for?
but it does raise a good question about what happens if you already have 11, then subscribe for a month to get some sound packs...what happens when you unsubscribe? I assume you get to keep your normal v11 license, but what about these sound packs? are they putting some kind of controls on these (presumably) Refills?
For now. The question is if it will remain optional. If it is not profitable compared to the new model then there's a good chance it'll be removed, I'd imagine.Steedus wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021To all those asking what happens when you cancel ... it’s a subscription service like any other, you stop the subscription and you lose access to the content. It can’t be simpler. If you had a license before the subscription, why would that now disappear?
Sorry but this thread is just getting painful, first getting mad at strictly speculated features, now getting mad at a purely optional branch of the service which from what I’ve read is expected to behave like almost any other subscription service ie see above.
Just what I was thinking. Nearly 19 pages on a forum later with this speculation and that speculation and all's it is is a subscription model (which I'm not against as long as they don't take away the usual upgrade method) just so you can access more instruments, more sounds. WHY WHY WHY do we need more dounds, more instruments? Not interested in subscribing. It's like giving a very overweight kid free access to the sweet shop when really, learning to eat the right sweets at the right time in moderation would be better. Lol!
Oh wow that sounds harsh.buddard wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021Maybe this is a premature assessment, but to me this sounds like the final nail in the coffin for us 3rd party RE developers.
The link to the RS shop is now hidden away in the footer on the front page, so it might as well not exist as far as RS customers are concerned, especially the newcomers.
We've smoked one of the buggers out! Quick Billy Joe. Fetch me mah pitchfork!jamespember wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021
Hey! I'm James. I'm the PM (together with Mattias) on the Reason+ project. I'll be answering everything for sure, but it may take me some time to catch up![]()
awesome, appreciate that. please make sure to include the other thread too. this post from a prominent (and IMO important) dev is particularly concerning:jamespember wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021Hey! I'm James. I'm the PM (together with Mattias) on the Reason+ project. I'll be answering everything for sure, but it may take me some time to catch up![]()
buddard wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021Maybe this is a premature assessment, but to me this sounds like the final nail in the coffin for us 3rd party RE developers.
The link to the RS shop is now hidden away in the footer on the front page, so it might as well not exist as far as RS customers are concerned, especially the newcomers.
Unless the Reason+ Companion app somehow highlights and/or lets you browse 3rd party products, the shop will probably be all tumbleweeds from now on...
And who will want to buy fixed RE licenses when they're subscribing to the host DAW?
Maybe this will cause a slight increase in RE subscriptions (if they promote them in any way, that is), but that won't provide nearly enough income to recoup the investment of developing new REs.
And when everyone has access to every Reason Studios RE and ReFill from the outset, they're not likely to buy a competing third party RE.
(Mind you, this development was not communicated in advance to any RE developer before today as far as I'm aware.)
Well, it was fun while it lasted!![]()
When will we get fully supported vst2 midi, that's all I've wanted since Reason 9.5?jamespember wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021
Hi there! James here from Reason Studios (I'll introduce myself in a new thread properly later).
So, no. Every pack you install you can keep on disk even if you cancel your Reason+ subscription. If you have the RE licenses owned for those patches, you are of course free to use them!
When you unsubscribe, you lose access to all the REs you got via the subscription, but everything you own, you still own!
I see it a bit different. I started making music with samples, continued with mixing loops. My first tries on synths just made "bleep-bleep" for quite a long time and i was happy to change the cut-off of a LPF.Creativemind wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021... It's like giving a very overweight kid free access to the sweet shop when really, learning to eat the right sweets at the right time in moderation would be better. Lol!
It's definitely on the list of todos, but I can't say when. Got a lot of stuff lined up for Reason!Billy+ wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021When will we get fully supported vst2 midi, that's all I've wanted since Reason 9.5?jamespember wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021
Hi there! James here from Reason Studios (I'll introduce myself in a new thread properly later).
So, no. Every pack you install you can keep on disk even if you cancel your Reason+ subscription. If you have the RE licenses owned for those patches, you are of course free to use them!
When you unsubscribe, you lose access to all the REs you got via the subscription, but everything you own, you still own!
Is it even on the list of todos
As Mattias has said, this isn't just sounds! We think the Sound Packs are a great product and a lot of fun to play with. But you also get every RE we've ever made, and will ever make. Historically, that's been at least a handful a year. You'll also get every update to Reason we ever make, including major versions.Yonatan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021Ok, so hopefully some new users might jump on to Reason bandwagon. But for those who bought 11 suite, not much to hurray over. But will see what that app may bring, if only soundpacks or something other. Sounds are everywhere nowadays, so not enough for me to jump in. But who knows next time around when next upgrade comes out, but if that is after the 50% deal expires, it will be a hard choice (or not). Will check out the livestream to get better grip of the plans ahead.
yeah, but those people paying $20 a month don’t get to keep it. they lose if they stop paying. you get to keep it forever.WillyOD wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021Because it seems to be the only way to keep up with the latest Reason version and other related stuff in the future?
As far as I know only those who pay 20€ month will get what I've paid (upgrades from all the way from R5 that I've paid for) as of now, the latest Reason version and whatever the future content will be.
So as a paying customer for years I feel shafted since anyone can now get what I've paid thousands of euros for 20€/month (not bitter, cool for new users).
But actually because I'm using Reason so little these days I might as well pay them 0,5€ for every time I start Reason, that would be cheaper for me monthly.
There's a post by a respected Rack Extension developer expressing concern that the new website layout makes it virtually impossible for users to find new Rack Extensions.jamespember wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021
Hey! I'm James. I'm the PM (together with Mattias) on the Reason+ project. I'll be answering everything for sure, but it may take me some time to catch up![]()
Well said! Getting access to more sounds and more devices isn't the most important thing when making music. Sure, a cool patch can inspire a song but can you just keep chucking more sounds on it until it's a full song?Creativemind wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021Just what I was thinking. Nearly 19 pages on a forum later with this speculation and that speculation and all's it is is a subscription model (which I'm not against as long as they don't take away the usual upgrade method) just so you can access more instruments, more sounds. WHY WHY WHY do we need more dounds, more instruments? Not interested in subscribing. It's like giving a very overweight kid free access to the sweet shop when really, learning to eat the right sweets at the right time in moderation would be better. Lol!
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