Of course it will. We'll love it, then hate it, then wish for 13.
Not necessarily in that order....
I know. I’m still happy with 10.4. I’d just like to avoid having to pay for an upgrade I don’t want in order to move on from RS. It’s like a buy out fee. I thought I’d be with them for life but I’m getting sick of all the crap.
I'm not telling you what to do, only to be clear that moving to another platform just swaps out Reasons issues for another set of issues. The grass is always greener, except for when it's not – make sure you're getting something of high value for your trouble of moving/learning a new workflow etc…
That’s true. And also the reason I’ve never used another DAW. I love Reason but there’s so much stuff happening just now that feels negative and is getting me down. Probably just a phase . Thanks Giles .selig wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020I'm not telling you what to do, only to be clear that moving to another platform just swaps out Reasons issues for another set of issues. The grass is always greener, except for when it's not – make sure you're getting something of high value for your trouble of moving/learning a new workflow etc…
I know this wasn't directed at me but... again today, RS sent me another video of someone using Ableton Live with RRP. It's surely understandable that some of us are wondering if we need to switch DAW?selig wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020I'm not telling you what to do, only to be clear that moving to another platform just swaps out Reasons issues for another set of issues. The grass is always greener, except for when it's not – make sure you're getting something of high value for your trouble of moving/learning a new workflow etc…
I can totally see why, if you only use Reason, you would interpret it this way.
OK. I know what you mean and I agree... But it still makes me concerned for Reason as a DAW. I think because I'm Reason centric, part of me resents the RRP and the use of other DAWs. All due to my sheltered musical existence of course, but I look forward to hearing about new DAW features rather than the bloody RRPselig wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020I can totally see why, if you only use Reason, you would interpret it this way.
But what if you're ALSO an Ableton Live user - would you not see it from a totally different perspective in that case? As in, "finally, I can use my two favorite pieces of software together". I don't think they message is "buy another DAW so you can then keep using Reason in that DAW", which obviously makes no sense.
I think instead the message is about expansion, more options, greater possibilities. It's really just the same message with ReWire I would think - do you think ReWire was designed to make you wonder if you needed to switch DAW?
After reading those want adds I think i can now be certain that there will be a version 12. Now wondering how long it may be before Verdane sells them off. Antares?Billy wrote: ↑29 Jun 2020Maybe every thing has been fix and we have an update on its way!
Or maybe someone with the qualifications should apply for some currently available jobs?
https://www.reasonstudios.com/employmen ... al-officer Just remember the best way to drive revenue is to have a user base that is excited about a product and tells everyone to buy it!
https://www.reasonstudios.com/employmen ... -developer Keywords here would be test before making live changes..
Anyone thinking of applying?
Ill piggy back off that. For many users especially new users trying to dig their feet into a daw i can see where going to another daw might be a better option than sticking with reason.selig wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020I'm not telling you what to do, only to be clear that moving to another platform just swaps out Reasons issues for another set of issues. The grass is always greener, except for when it's not – make sure you're getting something of high value for your trouble of moving/learning a new workflow etc…
I’ve only been using Reason for a year as well as Bitwig and Logic Pro X, and i’ve only purchased one rack extension so i’m not too deeply grounded into the ecosystem, would you recommend leaning further towards my other DAW options? it’s the most fun DAW and one that I feel speaks to me the most but it looks like a sinking ship sometimes, looking back to threads in 2013 asking for an updated GUI enhancement in regards to pleas of Track folders, more organised automation lanes and many others. from an experienced reason user to a novice reason user what would you recommend?okaino wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020Ill piggy back off that. For many users especially new users trying to dig their feet into a daw i can see where going to another daw might be a better option than sticking with reason.selig wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020
I'm not telling you what to do, only to be clear that moving to another platform just swaps out Reasons issues for another set of issues. The grass is always greener, except for when it's not – make sure you're getting something of high value for your trouble of moving/learning a new workflow etc…
As of the last yr for me personally i just accepted where reason was and what was possible, and found and I am still finding work flows to get everything i need to work out.
Compared to most daws im overworking to get make shift solutions. TBH im not even sure when ill get to a place where ill be done.
To me a huge part of being a producer is being resourceful. Reason has taught me this most likely better than anything in life and im not exaggerating
With saying that its not all sunshine and roses. Its more work...i have to actually journal about progress, keep questioning problems and generate solutions... which is actually ridiculous for a daw imo, but i am getting progress and creative burst come of it as well.
I actually think reason is the best place for me to create my music even with the obstacles that are presented by programming now.
Ive found that by coming up with solutions to get around the programming i dont care for and sometimes not immediatlely or conveniently available theres alot i can still do and have very little resistance in getting it done. The figuring it out part is the hard part and time consuming.
On the most superficial on the surface level i have a scroll of complaints about outdated almost useless features that could be incredibly useful, but have to be altered with programming on RS side.
With that being said im well aware of my options with other daws, and ive noticed theres alot of small deep end things in reason that just arent available let alone possible in other daws, and ive come to see that as the balance for what i dont like.
Reason aint this cozy house...its never been that... its one that you need to work on and requires effort to even achieve a sense of being comfortable.
Everyone is different and everyone has different needs, and they have to adapt to their needs in reason without being blind or unmotivated by their wants which you can have by working majority of the time.
When i started using reason 3.0 i had a hard time with it. It took time to get even decent with it. In fact i didnt get half decent with it till 4.0. i felt great in other daws though. Reason broke me down though. I simply wasnt good enough for the program. I couldnt do what i thought i could. It exposed my weak ass ideas for what they were.
Easy and Reason arent related....outside of its easy to quit using reason cause theres easier options ...thats true.
Reason is intensely complicated but well within "reason" of what your trying to do.
VLast thing....99.5% of the help ive got working through the issues ive had sadly hasnt come from the developer it came from brilliant users and sometimes people who have never used reason that had solutions i identified i could work with.
I write all this to say focus on music and progressing. Make the best choice for how you are going to make music and stick with it and do it.
If the negatives out way the positives keep it moving. If you are not sure research for yourself.
Creating is complicated enough to add feeling negative about tools. Make your choice about right now not tomorrow or next year and get to work guys!
Peace and Love!
Looking back to 2013, folks were also asking for VST support, pitch correction in the sequencer, inline crossfades, and bounce in place, all of which HAVE been implemented.kc1 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020I’ve only been using Reason for a year as well as Bitwig and Logic Pro X, and i’ve only purchased one rack extension so i’m not too deeply grounded into the ecosystem, would you recommend leaning further towards my other DAW options? it’s the most fun DAW and one that I feel speaks to me the most but it looks like a sinking ship sometimes, looking back to threads in 2013 asking for an updated GUI enhancement in regards to pleas of Track folders, more organised automation lanes and many others. from an experienced reason user to a novice reason user what would you recommend?
regarding VST. Props refused to do it until the company sold and the new owners made it happen. AFAIK.selig wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020Looking back to 2013, folks were also asking for VST support, pitch correction in the sequencer, inline crossfades, and bounce in place, all of which HAVE been implemented.kc1 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020I’ve only been using Reason for a year as well as Bitwig and Logic Pro X, and i’ve only purchased one rack extension so i’m not too deeply grounded into the ecosystem, would you recommend leaning further towards my other DAW options? it’s the most fun DAW and one that I feel speaks to me the most but it looks like a sinking ship sometimes, looking back to threads in 2013 asking for an updated GUI enhancement in regards to pleas of Track folders, more organised automation lanes and many others. from an experienced reason user to a novice reason user what would you recommend?
Best advice with Reason - if it works for you TODAY, keep using it. I still find it more inspiring than other DAWs, despite have my own list of unimplemented features as long as my arm.
This man has managed to sum up Reason in this honest elequent post.okaino wrote: ↑03 Jul 2020Ill piggy back off that. For many users especially new users trying to dig their feet into a daw i can see where going to another daw might be a better option than sticking with reason.selig wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020
I'm not telling you what to do, only to be clear that moving to another platform just swaps out Reasons issues for another set of issues. The grass is always greener, except for when it's not – make sure you're getting something of high value for your trouble of moving/learning a new workflow etc…
As of the last yr for me personally i just accepted where reason was and what was possible, and found and I am still finding work flows to get everything i need to work out.
Compared to most daws im overworking to get make shift solutions. TBH im not even sure when ill get to a place where ill be done.
To me a huge part of being a producer is being resourceful. Reason has taught me this most likely better than anything in life and im not exaggerating
With saying that its not all sunshine and roses. Its more work...i have to actually journal about progress, keep questioning problems and generate solutions... which is actually ridiculous for a daw imo, but i am getting progress and creative burst come of it as well.
I actually think reason is the best place for me to create my music even with the obstacles that are presented by programming now.
Ive found that by coming up with solutions to get around the programming i dont care for and sometimes not immediatlely or conveniently available theres alot i can still do and have very little resistance in getting it done. The figuring it out part is the hard part and time consuming.
On the most superficial on the surface level i have a scroll of complaints about outdated almost useless features that could be incredibly useful, but have to be altered with programming on RS side.
With that being said im well aware of my options with other daws, and ive noticed theres alot of small deep end things in reason that just arent available let alone possible in other daws, and ive come to see that as the balance for what i dont like.
Reason aint this cozy house...its never been that... its one that you need to work on and requires effort to even achieve a sense of being comfortable.
Everyone is different and everyone has different needs, and they have to adapt to their needs in reason without being blind or unmotivated by their wants which you can have by working majority of the time.
When i started using reason 3.0 i had a hard time with it. It took time to get even decent with it. In fact i didnt get half decent with it till 4.0. i felt great in other daws though. Reason broke me down though. I simply wasnt good enough for the program. I couldnt do what i thought i could. It exposed my weak ass ideas for what they were.
Easy and Reason arent related....outside of its easy to quit using reason cause theres easier options ...thats true.
Reason is intensely complicated but well within "reason" of what your trying to do.
VLast thing....99.5% of the help ive got working through the issues ive had sadly hasnt come from the developer it came from brilliant users and sometimes people who have never used reason that had solutions i identified i could work with.
I write all this to say focus on music and progressing. Make the best choice for how you are going to make music and stick with it and do it.
If the negatives out way the positives keep it moving. If you are not sure research for yourself.
Creating is complicated enough to add feeling negative about tools. Make your choice about right now not tomorrow or next year and get to work guys!
Peace and Love!
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