Corona impact on music making

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Post 10 Mar 2020

Since the beginning of the outbreak and panic, I keep hearing The Knack's "My Sharona" in my head. Of course, this is an obvious one:
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Post 10 Mar 2020

less people going to gigs
less musicians wanting to share musical equipment (like microphones) at gigs or even in recording studio i guess.

I have noticed a slight reduction in musical equipment on amazon due to economy downturn. I managed to replace my broken nektar p6 with another one at a well reduced price.

You have to acknowledge that as far as viruses go in the past 10-20 years this is a very successfull one . Some say that warm weather might stave it off . Here's hoping.

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Post 11 Mar 2020

craven wrote:
10 Mar 2020
Since the beginning of the outbreak and panic, I keep hearing The Knack's "My Sharona" in my head. Of course, this is an obvious one:
That's going to be me infected with this brilliant ear-worm :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post 11 Mar 2020

Reasonable man wrote:
10 Mar 2020
Some say that warm weather might stave it off . Here's hoping.
I'm not meaning to attack at all, but it's not a good idea to spread this generalisation. It really depends on the virus itself, and although it is a hopeful thought that it might happen there is absolutely no proof to suggest this might be the case. We just won't know until things start to heat up more.

Peace, and good luck :)
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Post 11 Mar 2020

On a slightly more amusing note, there's tonnes of job adverts on Facebook right now looking for cruise ship musicians! Apparently the attrition rate is really high at the moment for some reason. :D

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Post 11 Mar 2020

sure the virus could potentially recede a little over the warmer months. that also happened in the Spanish Flu in 1918, and when the next fall/winter season came around it came back even more deadly.

now is not the time to think we can hope for the best and this will all just blow over. we need to stay vigilant until there’s a proper vaccine, or antiviral drugs, or somehow the disease stops spreading. that very likely won’t be for another year and a half at least.

don’t panic. don’t touch your face. wash your hands. stay away from others unless you have no choice.

also, if you have the option, be young. 😂

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Post 11 Mar 2020

I was just looking into volunteering for the trials in London where they pay tou £3,500 to infect you, quarentine you, and try to cure you.
I figure I'm pretty healthy, I can hole up and make music in a hospital while I've got the flu, and get paid!
But they arent' acceptig more applicants fars I can tell.

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Post 11 Mar 2020

craven wrote:
10 Mar 2020
Since the beginning of the outbreak and panic, I keep hearing The Knack's "My Sharona" in my head. Of course, this is an obvious one:
Doesn't take much to get me thinking that song ot myself. Great song but man, I can't put it down.

Edit: The original one I mean...

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Post 11 Mar 2020

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Post 11 Mar 2020

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yes, of course the number of deaths per day is low ****right now****. that’s why containment and slowing transmission is so important.

today, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Anthony Fauci said “If we are complacent and don’t do really aggressive containment and mitigation, the number could go way up and be involved in many, many millions,”

that’s not a small number of people per day.

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Post 11 Mar 2020

plaamook wrote:
11 Mar 2020
I was just looking into volunteering for the trials in London where they pay tou £3,500 to infect you, quarentine you, and try to cure you.
I figure I'm pretty healthy, I can hole up and make music in a hospital while I've got the flu, and get paid!
But they arent' acceptig more applicants fars I can tell.
Maybe they'll need a 3.4% applicant refill in a few weeks :?

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Post 12 Mar 2020

jappe wrote:
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Maybe they'll need a 3.4% applicant refill in a few weeks :?
Not in his age group :cool:

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Post 12 Mar 2020

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That looks like they've taking the 3000+ deaths so far and divided by the 60+ days which gives an average of 56 per day. But that's not how a virus work, there were very few deaths at the start, and it's increasing exponentially.
So if you compared this virus with the other "killers" a few months ago it wouldn't have even made the list! Meaning, we won't accurately know how it compares to other "killers" until it has already run its course, at which point it won't really matter because it will be history.
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Post 12 Mar 2020

selig wrote:
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That looks like they've taking the 3000+ deaths so far and divided by the 60+ days which gives an average of 56 per day. But that's not how a virus work, there were very few deaths at the start, and it's increasing exponentially.
So if you compared this virus with the other "killers" a few months ago it wouldn't have even made the list! Meaning, we won't accurately know how it compares to other "killers" until it has already run its course, at which point it won't really matter because it will be history.
and that’s *if* it runs its course and fizzles out. other viruses end up becoming seasonal, and are managed with vaccinations and antiviral drugs. I believe the last H1N1 virus is an example (I may be confusing it with another one though).

the real point at which we could potentially start comparing them is when COVID reaches some saturation point within the population. until then, comparing these numbers is interesting, but not instructive.

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Post 12 Mar 2020

selig wrote:
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That looks like they've taking the 3000+ deaths so far and divided by the 60+ days which gives an average of 56 per day. But that's not how a virus work, there were very few deaths at the start, and it's increasing exponentially.
So if you compared this virus with the other "killers" a few months ago it wouldn't have even made the list! Meaning, we won't accurately know how it compares to other "killers" until it has already run its course, at which point it won't really matter because it will be history.
Yes, we don't know anything about the future and everybody is free to make any predictions, whether it grows exponentially or degenerates after a number of infection transfers. Still, it's the current state of things that the mortality is lower than that of seasonal flu.

Can't help posting another picture, that's what the coronavirus currently looks like:

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Post 12 Mar 2020

current total mortality is less than seasonal flu. current mortality *rate* is orders of magnitude higher than seasonal flu.

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guitfnky wrote:
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current total mortality is less than seasonal flu. current mortality *rate* is orders of magnitude higher than seasonal flu.
1.5-2% vs 0.15%.
But the mortality rate will drop as it spreads.
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Post 12 Mar 2020

orthodox wrote:
12 Mar 2020
guitfnky wrote:
12 Mar 2020
current total mortality is less than seasonal flu. current mortality *rate* is orders of magnitude higher than seasonal flu.
1.5-2% vs 0.15%.
But the mortality rate will drop as it spreads.
yes, 10x as deadly is an order of magnitude larger.

the mortality rate will vary depending on a wide range of factors (for example, in the U.S., it’s around 3% currently—it’s around 9% in Iran). the mortality rate will not drop as it spreads (unless you’re aware of a way to resurrect the dead)—that’s an irresponsible statement. the rate is what it is, and will be what it will be. what you’re talking about (presumably) is the mortality rate that we are trying to calculate (which will never = the actual mortality rate). that *may* go down, as scientists start to get a better grasp on the numbers and of the testing, but so far the WHO estimate of the mortality rate has gone UP, from around 2% to 3.4%.

unless the spread of the virus is slowed drastically, there will almost certainly be more deaths from COVID than seasonal flu.

no one is suggesting people should panic. but the cavalier attitude that ‘everything’s fine, nothing to see here, folks, it’ll all be over soon’ is what makes it so easy for viruses like this to spread unchecked.

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Post 12 Mar 2020

Seems that it will affect my music making just got a call from my boss, saying that we are ordered to stay home from work for 14 days with full pay. So I guess I will make more music at least out of boredom all sport and entertainment activities are also canceled during this time.

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Post 12 Mar 2020

gullum wrote:
12 Mar 2020
Seems that it will affect my music making just got a call from my boss, saying that we are ordered to stay home from work for 14 days with full pay. So I guess I will make more music at least out of boredom all sport and entertainment activities are also canceled during this time.
Lucky!

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Post 12 Mar 2020

gullum wrote:
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Seems that it will affect my music making just got a call from my boss, saying that we are ordered to stay home from work for 14 days with full pay. So I guess I will make more music at least out of boredom all sport and entertainment activities are also canceled during this time.
Similar here. My jobs are each taking it days at a time. Currently events canceled through this weekend.

Seems like a great time for businesses to take advantage and have some big sales of digital products for the people staying home; encourage them to make music, listen to music, watch movies, play video games, etc.

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Post 12 Mar 2020

EdwardKiy wrote:
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jappe wrote:
11 Mar 2020
Maybe they'll need a 3.4% applicant refill in a few weeks :?
Not in his age group :cool:
True. I'm under 50.

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Post 12 Mar 2020

gullum wrote:
12 Mar 2020
Seems that it will affect my music making just got a call from my boss, saying that we are ordered to stay home from work for 14 days with full pay. So I guess I will make more music at least out of boredom all sport and entertainment activities are also canceled during this time.
Similar here, we're encouraged to work from home. (In lucky to work in a business where work from home often is possible)

My colleague was also sent home from abroad(Denmark) since the project won't allow work on site.

Work from home meaning hours less commuting time meaning no excuse not to kickstart the music making again

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Post 12 Mar 2020

aeox wrote:
07 Mar 2020
jappe wrote:
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Agree...I did change my shopping pattern since January,buying a bit more than I immediately need, and now I have a proper stock of food.
I've always had some bags of rice in the pantry, so I guess i'm covered!

One concern that I have is that I won't be able to go on vacation at the end of month. Everything is paid for, and I don't think I'd be able to get a refund.
That sucks. Maybe check your insurance(maybe even Visa insurance) if there's any hope there, though I guess they'll have a force majeure disclaimer.

Just got the news from a friend who just arrived to the ski resort Trysil in Norway that they were shutting down due to Corona.
So now he's on his way to another ski resort in Sweden(Sälen) hoping they won't shut down that too...

Worst case, it'll be a grand road trip

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Post 13 Mar 2020

I don't have permit to move to the recording stage... I'm working on a movie soundtrack and I'm on complete lockdown.
Not good.

I'm also repairing some gears (and can't source material) which I expected to play live in April, but massive cancellations for festivals in Europe are on the rise everywhere.... ouch...

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