Tuning Samples
- Periwinkle
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Hi, everyone,
I wonder if anyone can help with this one: I'm importing samples and positioning them individually on an audio track. I am then using the sequencer's transpose function to manually tune each sample. I'm not going for a realistic vibe here.
Now, my pitch isn't that bad, but it's not fantastic. I can't be 100% sure of the starting pitches of the samples as some of the sounds are quite complex.
Is there a way I can assign specific (spot-on) pitches to one-shot samples. Is there maybe some kind of chromatic tuner (like a guitar tuner) that I can route the audio channel to?
Thanks in advance.
I wonder if anyone can help with this one: I'm importing samples and positioning them individually on an audio track. I am then using the sequencer's transpose function to manually tune each sample. I'm not going for a realistic vibe here.
Now, my pitch isn't that bad, but it's not fantastic. I can't be 100% sure of the starting pitches of the samples as some of the sounds are quite complex.
Is there a way I can assign specific (spot-on) pitches to one-shot samples. Is there maybe some kind of chromatic tuner (like a guitar tuner) that I can route the audio channel to?
Thanks in advance.
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- Jackjackdaw
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I understand this is a popular workflow, dragging samples onto the timeline. I dont understand why though, it looks more like editing a spreadsheet than playing music to me.
I would put all my samples into Kong pads. Have them triggered by midi notes and modulated by lfos or automation lanes.
I know it's different strokes for different folks though.
I would put all my samples into Kong pads. Have them triggered by midi notes and modulated by lfos or automation lanes.
I know it's different strokes for different folks though.
- Periwinkle
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@way2cool
Thanks for your reply. I can see that you speak very good English but I can't quite understand your meaning. Don't worry, I teach English and a foreign language as my job. Maybe you could clarify, or if you post your reply in your native language, I can run it through some translation software and post it back here. I am interested to hear what you have to say.
@Jackjackdaw
I take your point Jack, and I have also been using Kong in this way. However, when there is a large number of discrete samples, I could run into a situation where I needed to use fifty separate Kongs. I am also finding that the 'slice and dice method' provides useful visual feedback.
Also, although Kong allows you to easily adjust the pitch of samples, I'm not aware that it tells what the actual pitch is.
Thanks for your reply. I can see that you speak very good English but I can't quite understand your meaning. Don't worry, I teach English and a foreign language as my job. Maybe you could clarify, or if you post your reply in your native language, I can run it through some translation software and post it back here. I am interested to hear what you have to say.
@Jackjackdaw
I take your point Jack, and I have also been using Kong in this way. However, when there is a large number of discrete samples, I could run into a situation where I needed to use fifty separate Kongs. I am also finding that the 'slice and dice method' provides useful visual feedback.
Also, although Kong allows you to easily adjust the pitch of samples, I'm not aware that it tells what the actual pitch is.
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- Periwinkle
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I'm beginning to wonder if Antares Autotune may be an option.
Addendum:
Auto-Tune Vocal Studio
$699.00
... maybe not.
Addendum:
Auto-Tune Vocal Studio
$699.00
... maybe not.
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- diminished
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This, and in the sequencer you can go into "Pitch Edit" and go nuts.
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- Periwinkle
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Okay then. Looks like it's time for me to RTFM lol.
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Why don't you use Reason's tuner?
- On your audio track, click on "Rec Source".
- Create a new Audio Track. In its "Audio Input" menu, select your first audio track.
- In the sequencer, click on the tuner on the second audio track.
- Play in a loop and adjust the transpose until you're satisfied.
Otherwise, you could also use GTune by GVST or MTuner by Melda Productions, both free VSTs.
(this is on top of eusti and diminished's suggestion which is imho the easiest).
- On your audio track, click on "Rec Source".
- Create a new Audio Track. In its "Audio Input" menu, select your first audio track.
- In the sequencer, click on the tuner on the second audio track.
- Play in a loop and adjust the transpose until you're satisfied.
Otherwise, you could also use GTune by GVST or MTuner by Melda Productions, both free VSTs.
(this is on top of eusti and diminished's suggestion which is imho the easiest).
- Periwinkle
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Thank you @eusti, this works beautifully. I realise that at present many Reason users have concerns about the software, direction etc. And I'm not saying these concerns are unfounded, but it never ceases to amaze me how powerful and versatile Reason has become.
I wasn't even aware that this type of pitch correction was possible in Reason.
I jumped ship roundabout version 2 or 3 and moved to Apple Logic. I have to say that I've achieved more creatively using Reason in the past few weeks that I did with Logic over the past five years.
Thanks again
I wasn't even aware that this type of pitch correction was possible in Reason.
I jumped ship roundabout version 2 or 3 and moved to Apple Logic. I have to say that I've achieved more creatively using Reason in the past few weeks that I did with Logic over the past five years.
Thanks again
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I think that’s what it’s made for mainly. To give Reason users a built in alternative to auto tune and melodyne.
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I use a plugin by melda productions (free) to visualize pitches ( I actually use it on umpf / Kong / whatever drum machine, but works on the sequencer as well, just loop it so it plays often and then you can tell how many semitones or cents you need to pitch your sample.
- Periwinkle
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions. It seems there are several ways to approach this. It's always good to have a choice.
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- Boombastix
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Sometimes I use https://www.gvst.co.uk/gtune.htm. It is a free VST and works well on monophonic material.
For polyphonic material I use https://www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/h ... ngkey-mk3/ and you can look at the identified partials and figure out what notes are in the samle, just loop a small section that doesn't change. Not as smooth as Melodyne, but hey it is $8 and not $800...
For polyphonic material I use https://www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/h ... ngkey-mk3/ and you can look at the identified partials and figure out what notes are in the samle, just loop a small section that doesn't change. Not as smooth as Melodyne, but hey it is $8 and not $800...
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