Reason 9.5 & above CPU Stress Tests (2017, two different songfiles included)!

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Przemyslaw wrote:
05 Mar 2019

Many thanks for the description. It's very interesting that you went through the whole reason test complex. I have i7 7820x, after OC 19990 points in the passmark and I reach 56 seconds in this complex test. The remaining specification is comparable to yours. With the fact that it's great if you carried out the test on Tascam US2x2 drivers (preferably with 1024samples latency in Reason audio preferences). The control surface is unlikely to affect the test.
You have a very strong single core processor, I wonder if this determines such a huge performance. Your 3038 to 2489 in my single thread processor. That's 20% more.
As jam-s suggested I was running with CPU limit at none. Setting it 95% made a difference. I will try running out to the Tascam when I get a chance and see if that changes anything.

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I don't have the option of turning off HT with a 9700k.
Of course you do - under Reason’s Preferences. And there should be an option under your motherboard BIOS if you want to turn it off for Windows (which I don’t recommend).
The 9700k doesn't run HT, just 8 straight cores. It is a slightly slower 9900k with HT turned off and less L3 cache. I picked it because it was about 150 cheaper than the 9900k at the time and I feel slightly less vulnerable to side channel attacks. Probably just a pipe dream and I probably should have sucked it up and picked the 9900.

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splangie wrote:
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The 9700k doesn't run HT, just 8 straight cores.
viewtopic.php?p=434834#p434834

;)

Meh, that 9900 isn't really that much faster - single thread is almost identical to the 9700k. I'm sure you're fine.
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EnochLight wrote:
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splangie wrote:
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The 9700k doesn't run HT, just 8 straight cores.
viewtopic.php?p=434834#p434834

;)

Meh, that 9900 isn't really that much faster - single thread is almost identical to the 9700k. I'm sure you're fine.
It feels almost like buying a new 4x4 F250 and not getting the offroad package. Sorta. But maybe not.

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It feels almost like buying a new 4x4 F250 and not getting the offroad package. Sorta. But maybe not.
Lol! Yeah, that's a great comparison.
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06 Mar 2019

splangie wrote:
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Does anyone still have this file? The links on the first page no longer work.
If you need a copy of those files let me know.
Yes, I would like a copy of the files. Can you upload them to a file service and DM me the link?

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If you need a copy of those files let me know.
Yes, I would like a copy of the files. Can you upload them to a file service and DM me the link?
Try this -
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... Cx5j6B_ApQ

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splangie wrote:
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Yes, I would like a copy of the files. Can you upload them to a file service and DM me the link?
Try this -
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... Cx5j6B_ApQ

Hi all!
I've updated the links on the main post and now they should work!
I moved my online storage and did not realize I messed up, sorry :)

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08 Mar 2019

Front page downloads work now. Thanks everyone! I will let you know how my computer does.

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (stock speeds, Using Ryzen Balanced power setting)
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3200
Sound Card: Blue Yeti microphone (using ASIO4all @ 44.1 kHz and 512 Buffer)

When playback stops / Computer too slow warning appears COMPLEX RE ----> 4.4.2.49 (7 sec)
When playback stops / Computer too slow warning appears Simple FX Chain ----> 35.1.2.86 (1 min 8 sec)

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15 Mar 2019

"And as a nice bonus, it improves performance if you're not using VSTs too! Read on for the details..." https://www.propellerheads.com/blog/rea ... ow-in-beta

Can someone with access to the BETA 10.3 test before and after with the complex file to see the performance difference?

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Kategra wrote:
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"And as a nice bonus, it improves performance if you're not using VSTs too! Read on for the details..." https://www.propellerheads.com/blog/rea ... ow-in-beta

Can someone with access to the BETA 10.3 test before and after with the complex file to see the performance difference?
It's my understanding that the first round of beta testing is going to be with logging on, so one should wait until logging has been turned off before running the benchmark.

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03 Apr 2019

:D Can someone with access to the BETA 10.3 test before and after with the complex file to see the performance difference?

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:D Can someone with access to the BETA 10.3 test before and after with the complex file to see the performance difference?
Yeah i was wondering with this notification. Update hasn't officially drop yet. lol
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i97940@4Ghz (base speed 3.1GHz)
Test settings 44.1Khz buffer 1024 samples and cpu 95%

Complex HT OFF 1:21
Complex With HT all the way through.

Simple HT OFF 2:00
Simple with HT 1:14

Reason 10.3
Test settings 44.1Khz buffer 1024 samples
Note you can't set the CPU limit anymore as that option has been removed.

Complex HT OFF All the way through, 3 Bars Just.
Complex With HT All the way through, 3 Bars Solid.

Simple HT OFF, @2:00 hit 6 bars, 2:15 first clicks and pops.
Simple with HT, @1:14 hit 6 bars, 1:20 first clicks and pops.

With the option "Render Audio using the Audio Card buffer size" turned off
Complex HT OFF All the way through, 5 Bars solid.
Complex With HT All the way through, 4 Bars Solid.

Reason 10.2
Test settings 44.1Khz buffer 1024 samples CPU limit set to none.

Complex HT OFF All the way through, 6 Bars @1:18, NO clicks or pops.
Complex With HT All the way through, just hiting the 6 Bars (no clicks or pops) 5 seconds before the end.

Simple HT OFF, @1:50 hit 6 bars, 1:58 first clicks and pops.
Simple with HT, @1:10 hit 6 bars, 1:16 first clicks and pops.

Note the original (old) test would have been Reason 10.0 (maybe 10.1)

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Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
04 Apr 2019
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Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
09 Nov 2018
i97940@4Ghz (base speed 3.1GHz)
Test settings 44.1Khz buffer 1024 samples and cpu 95%

Complex HT OFF 1:21
Complex With HT all the way through.

Simple HT OFF 2:00
Simple with HT 1:14

Reason 10.3
Test settings 44.1Khz buffer 1024 samples
Note you can't set the CPU limit anymore as that option has been removed.

Complex HT OFF All the way through, 3 Bars Just.
Complex With HT All the way through, 3 Bars Solid.

Simple HT OFF, @2:00 hit 6 bars, 2:15 first clicks and pops.
Simple with HT, @1:14 hit 6 bars, 1:20 first clicks and pops.

With the option "Render Audio using the Audio Card buffer size" turned off
Complex HT OFF All the way through, 5 Bars solid.
Complex With HT All the way through, 4 Bars Solid.

Reason 10.2
Test settings 44.1Khz buffer 1024 samples CPU limit set to none.

Complex HT OFF All the way through, 6 Bars @1:18, NO clicks or pops.
Complex With HT All the way through, just hiting the 6 Bars (no clicks or pops) 5 seconds before the end.

Simple HT OFF, @1:50 hit 6 bars, 1:58 first clicks and pops.
Simple with HT, @1:10 hit 6 bars, 1:16 first clicks and pops.

Note the original (old) test would have been Reason 10.0 (maybe 10.1)

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PoohBear
Thank you for testing and posting your results!
So performance really improved for RE, not just VSTs! That's so wonderful! Hats of to Propellerhead team!

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I just had a nice surprise... This file didn't run with R10.2 and with 10.3 it runs until 57 secs without crackling!

Reason 10.3 Buffer 1024, Intel I7 4790k

With the option "Render Audio using the Audio Card buffer size" turned off
Complex HT OFF plays up to 35 secs
Complex With HT ON plays up to 57 secs

I'm going to say again! This thing barely played one in 10.2 no matter what settings.

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22 Apr 2019

i9 -9900K 3.6 ghz, / max 5 ghz
16 gb
MOTU 828 MK3
44100 Hz 1024 samples
m.2 ssd ADATA 1tb

Both simple and complex go all the way, completely smooth.
At complex my CPU was at 80%@ 4,6 GHZ (but i have multiple VirtualMachines running on this machine).

CPU limit seems to be missing in reason 10.3.

On my macbook pro 13 i7 no touch the song stops at < 1 sec :oops:

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Royal wrote:
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CPU limit seems to be missing in reason 10.3.
Yes, it's been removed.

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WongoTheSane wrote:
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Loque wrote:Anyone compared performance between 9.2 and 9.5?
My 1.5 seconds was with 9.5 (latest non-logging, haven't updated yet), with 9.2 I get to 4 seconds. Weird, there shouldn't be any difference...
What did you mean by "non-logging"?
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etyrnal2 wrote:
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My 1.5 seconds was with 9.5 (latest non-logging, haven't updated yet), with 9.2 I get to 4 seconds. Weird, there shouldn't be any difference...
What did you mean by "non-logging"?
Non-logging refers to a Reason beta version without performance consuming event logging. Initial beta versions are quite slow due to this, eventually during beta testing they turn off logging.

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02 Oct 2019

EnochLight wrote:
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fraz wrote:
29 Jul 2018
Hi,

Does the 7980 XE work with Reason and Reason see all 18 cores? - I've heard other DAW's can't see more than 16 cores 32 threads. I'm expecting an i9 7920 X -!
Yes, Reason will “see” all cores/threads. Your performance will vary, as demonstrated in various builds in this thread. I’d suggest experimenting with Reason’s Hyperthreading settings once you get your new machine.

CPU’s with high single thread performance ratings tend to do well with Reason in its current form. Be aware that Propellerhead have publicly stated they are working on performance and plan a free update later this year that may help, though.

On an aside, here's how the 7980XE compares to my 6+ year old quad core 3770k. While its overall CPU Mark (which takes into consideration multiple threads/cores) is almost 3x faster than my old chip, its single thread rating is a mere 11%-12% faster. :shock: :o :(


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Hi thanks for the input - As I've learned to build a machine and over clock as well (OC)__3700 K is one of the CPU's I've got and have OC'ed it - Not a crazy OC but the highest possible clock for the lowest possible temperatures by finding the lowest v_core.

I managed 4.4 Ghz all cores (as far as I know)__with a Passmark rating of 11,300 points and single threaded performance increase as well by a n equal margin but I forget the exact number

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Hi thanks for the input -
Lol - yeah, that was over a year ago. :puf_bigsmile:
fraz wrote:
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As I've learned to build a machine and over clock as well (OC)__3700 K is one of the CPU's I've got and have OC'ed it - Not a crazy OC but the highest possible clock for the lowest possible temperatures by finding the lowest v_core.

I managed 4.4 Ghz all cores (as far as I know)__with a Passmark rating of 11,300 points and single threaded performance increase as well by a n equal margin but I forget the exact number
Sounds nice. How is your performance in Reason? What version of Reason are you on?
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Kategra wrote:
30 May 2017
EnochLight wrote:
  • Intel i7 3770k @ 4.2 Ghz
  • 16 GB of RAM
  • RME Babyface Pro
  • 44.1 Hz @ 256 samples as well as 512 samples
  • CPU limit set to 95%
  • Windows 10 Pro
This song file won't play back at all on my system without immediately pop/crack/distort for half a second and then too slow. :( I'm not sure which tracks to start deleting to get to a point where it will start playing back in some semblance of normalcy, though I gather that that's not the point of this song file.
Can you disable your LAN adapter after opening the song, also change the Latency to max (should be 1024 for RME Babyface) and then retest?
Anyway, I don't expect i7 3770 play more than 4 seconds.


I'm really curious of how much the 8+ cores i7s and Xeons would play.. I don't have much hope for Ryzen though.
What a difference a couple of years make! My Ryzen 9 3900X just played through the complex track with no problem and played through (with crackles) the simple track to the end.
Sweet :D

Grum.

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Grumbleweed wrote:
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Kategra wrote:
30 May 2017


Can you disable your LAN adapter after opening the song, also change the Latency to max (should be 1024 for RME Babyface) and then retest?
Anyway, I don't expect i7 3770 play more than 4 seconds.


I'm really curious of how much the 8+ cores i7s and Xeons would play.. I don't have much hope for Ryzen though.
What a difference a couple of years make! My Ryzen 9 3900X just played through the complex track with no problem and played through (with crackles) the simple track to the end.
Sweet :D

Grum.
It's true. I clearly remember not being able to run the Complex Benchmark song at all a few years ago; The audio engine would just die the moment I hit play. Now I can play through the entire song with power to spare. A pretty wild reality check for just how far we've come.
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