Plugins delay compensation not works if use VST fx thru mixer's sends ?

[ab459]

Hi folks, i found that, and it's normal ? I mean, it's known\intended behavior ??

[Carly(Poohbear)]

It's normal, clearly documented in the manual.

[EdGrip]

Sends best used for delay-based effects.
You can send a few channels to a bus, and then make a parallel channel of that bus for FX only and they will be properly compensated.

[ab459]

It's normal, clearly documented in the manual.

Hmm, ok, frankly i did not read yet, need will check.

Sends best used for delay-based effects.

Yes, exactly why i asked.

You can send a few channels to a bus, and then make a parallel channel of that bus for FX only and they will be properly compensated.

Ok thanks for info, will try.

[Carly(Poohbear)]

Sends best used for delay-based effects.

Yes, exactly why i asked.

I think you missed the point here that EdGrip was making, why worry about a chain that has a Delay (Reverb etc) in it with D.C. there really is no point.

[botnotbot]

Yes, exactly why i asked.

I think you missed the point here that EdGrip was making, why worry about a chain that has a Delay (Reverb etc) in it with D.C. there really is no point.

Can you clarify this? Why should you not care about delay compensation when using a delay (which are heavily dependent on timing, ie you want a 23ms delay to be a 23ms delay, not out of sync with all the properly compensated chains)?

[EdGrip]

I have trouble imagining why you'd want *precisely* 23ms on multiple channels, mixed in to the original signals, as a send effect.

I expect there's a boring mechanical reason that you can't deploy PDC on send effects that are getting signals from multiple mix channels - I don't have the mind of Selig so I don't know why without looking it up.
You'd have to "pull" *every* track that's feeding into that send, but some but not all of those tracks will be feeding into different combinations of send effects - each with its own amount of sample delay. Etc etc.

[ab459]

Yes, exactly why i asked.

I think you missed the point here that EdGrip was making, why worry about a chain that has a Delay (Reverb etc) in it with D.C. there really is no point.

Hm..I wanted to answer for this just like @botnotbot:

Why should you not care about delay compensation when using a delay (which are heavily dependent on timing, ie you want a 23ms delay to be a 23ms delay, not out of sync with all the properly compensated chains)?

[Carly(Poohbear)]

Phasing and Comb filtering are just a couple of reasons for having D.C.

So you want to use D.C. to pull the signal in sync then use something like a Delay or Reverb that can push it back out of sync. What is the point of doing that?

EdGrip gave the technical reason to why D.C. is a nightmare to manage when using Sends.