qn5 wrote: ↑
10 May 2019
I've been a Melodyne user since they first launched and I wholeheartedly disagree that it's "undetectable". Reason's pitch editor is LEAGUES more natural sounding when used for changing notes. Sure it doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it's transparent AF. I'd take Reason's ANY day for the sheer natural sound of it. I can almost always tell when Melodyne is being used, plenty of metallic sounding artifacts, etc.
sorry this is months old, i haven't been on here in a while...
but it's still strange to me to hear someone say that reason's pitch shift is better sounding than melodyne's.
i don't even bother with reason's pitch shifter because it sounds so much worse than melodyne.
in the interim since i last commented on this thread, i bought this old harmonium at goodwill, and fixed it up. it's all wood, even the pipes. the only other material is the leather bellow and the metal screws (philips heads of course, ugh) it was built in 1882, and has teh signature of all the people who built it in the story&clark factory, who are all since deceased.
but anyways, once i got it tuned up (as in working), i realized that it is fairly in tune with itself, but also almost exactly halfway out of tune with standard pitch. this harmonium is an "A" at just about 450.
so i had to decide whether to detune my guitars and uke to match the harmonium, or record the harmonium and then pitch shift it (not tune the notes individually, but ctrl+a and move the entire composition a "semi"-semitone.
(incidentally, does anyone know of a way to assign how many cents from standard "a" reason is on a per song basis?)
when i played around with tuning and recording... i could not even alter the harmonium by a hair in reason without horrible artifacts. when i tried in melodyne, it was impossible to tell a difference unless you had the original track to a/b up to about 4 semitones.
so that right there was a perfect example of how melodyne works wonders.
having said that, i know that reason's pitch edit (even though it has options for non-vocal material) is only really useful for vocal material.
but again, when recording a singer on a harmonium with stereo mics on the harmonium and a mic on the singer, with some minor bleed, reason still gives some very obvious artifacts whereas melodyne is almost transparent.
in optimal recording conditions, and so long as it's vocals, reason does a great job, i use it to change pitch i harmonies all the time, especially if i add other effects in the chain later. but it's not quite there. still excellent though in the right circumstances.
it really makes me do a double take to hear someone claim that reason does better pitch edit.