Umpf Analog?

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BRIGGS
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24 Jan 2019

How about an analog synthesis Umpf? Like the kong modules and microtonic, but with an Umpf twist and form factor?

Thoughts?
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25 Jan 2019

BRIGGS wrote:
24 Jan 2019
How about an analog synthesis Umpf? Like the kong modules and microtonic, but with an Umpf twist and form factor?

Thoughts?
But it's gonna be an RE, so not *really* analog ;) :P

Also, you can do drum sounds with most of the synths in Reason's rack, so why not use those if you want to "create" drums by yourself?

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25 Jan 2019

antic604 wrote:
25 Jan 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
24 Jan 2019
How about an analog synthesis Umpf? Like the kong modules and microtonic, but with an Umpf twist and form factor?

Thoughts?
But it's gonna be an RE, so not *really* analog ;) :P

Also, you can do drum sounds with most of the synths in Reason's rack, so why not use those if you want to "create" drums by yourself?
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Maybe an 'Umpf Nurse Kong Nano' or something?
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25 Jan 2019

Maybe an 'Umpf Nurse Kong Nano' or something?

Catheter anyone?
Who’s using the royal plural now baby? 🧂

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motuscott wrote:
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Maybe an 'Umpf Nurse Kong Nano' or something?

Catheter anyone?
lolz! Key word 'nano'!
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key word is no no no
Who’s using the royal plural now baby? 🧂

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key word is no no no
or... ouch ouch ouch :puf_bigsmile:
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antic604 wrote:
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But it's gonna be an RE, so not *really* analog ;) :P
Don't tell Urs @ U-He , Richard @ Synapse Audio, or Andrew @ Blamsoft that. :lol: :D ;)
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25 Jan 2019

I do wish there was another set of drum synth modules to make sounds with, but not UMPF. I have all of the drum synthesis Rack Extensions so far, and I can definitely use other RE's to roll-my-own too. I just wish we had some that sounded like Bitwig's or Pure Data or MaxMSP.

Yeah, I can make these sounds with almost any synthesizer (been doing this since '95) by myself, but I would rather have low-DSP single modules for ONLY that purpose. Purely for speed and yet another sound. I use the Noise Engineering modules for stuff like that and it's fantastic. More truly radical synth modules would be nice, too :D

Imagine 1/2 rack modules turned on their side, like 500 series or Eurorack. That'd be sweet!

Small, 1/2 rack modules or actually modular like Complex-1, maybe in a Eurorack format. Not sample-based, but synthesized. and NO VST. Glad others love VSTs, but I'd rather just stay within Reason via Rack Extensions. Everybody else is goin' modular. I wish we'd go full-on like Reaktor, like Bitwig, like VCV, etc. Modular is fun!

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EnochLight wrote:
25 Jan 2019
Don't tell Urs @ U-He , Richard @ Synapse Audio, or Brian @ Blamsoft that. :lol: :D ;)
I think they've figured it out by now, but they like money from clueless users ;) :D

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antic604 wrote:
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EnochLight wrote:
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Don't tell Urs @ U-He , Richard @ Synapse Audio, or Brian @ Blamsoft that. :lol: :D ;)
I think they've figured it out by now, but they like money from clueless users ;) :D
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You're suggesting that their analog modelling is bad? Just a money grab? :o :shock: :?
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EnochLight wrote:
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You're suggesting that their analog modelling is bad? Just a money grab? :o :shock: :?
No, it's great for what it is but it's not *really* analog - I thought there can't be much of a difference until I got Analog Four Mk1 :)

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No, it's great for what it is but it's not *really* analog
Yeah I'll have to politely disagree with you, there. U-He's analog modelling is legendary, and Synapse Audio's Legend totally knocks it out of the park. There's a plethora of others - even Softube's modelling of classic analog gear rocks it.

Of course it's not *really* analog - it's digital code emulating it. But I'd wager that - especially in a mix - not you nor most other people could tell the difference between a good emulation and its real-world hardware counterpart. ;)
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EnochLight wrote:
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antic604 wrote:
26 Jan 2019
No, it's great for what it is but it's not *really* analog
Yeah I'll have to politely disagree with you, there. U-He's analog modelling is legendary, and Synapse Audio's Legend totally knocks it out of the park. There's a plethora of others - even Softube's modelling of classic analog gear rocks it.

Of course it's not *really* analog - it's digital code emulating it. But I'd wager that - especially in a mix - not you nor most other people could tell the difference between a good emulation and its real-world hardware counterpart. ;)
Didn't this all start with U-he Diva blowing away Sylenth?

Anyway...Analog is awesome. A good digitally modeled analog is even better!!! You get all the tone, without the inconveniences or cost.
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BRIGGS wrote:
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A good digitally modeled analog is even better!!! You get all the tone, without the inconveniences or cost.
^^ He gets it ^^

I mean seriously - I love hardware and nothing is cooler than tweaking real-world devices that you can touch, but come on now peeps... we're all here because we dabble with virtual instruments.
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EnochLight wrote:
26 Jan 2019
BRIGGS wrote:
26 Jan 2019
A good digitally modeled analog is even better!!! You get all the tone, without the inconveniences or cost.
^^ He gets it ^^

I mean seriously - I love hardware and nothing is cooler than tweaking real-world devices that you can touch, but come on now peeps... we're all here because we dabble with virtual instruments.
Have you tried monark?

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BRIGGS wrote:
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Have you tried monark?
Yes - but I prefer Synapse Audio's The Legend.

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EnochLight wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:
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Have you tried monark?
Yes - but I prefer Synapse Audio's The Legend.


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Dat back panel!!!

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08 Feb 2019

Kong Jr. ???
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15 Feb 2019

Umpf AnaKong
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EnochLight wrote:
25 Jan 2019
antic604 wrote:
25 Jan 2019
But it's gonna be an RE, so not *really* analog ;) :P
Don't tell Urs @ U-He , Richard @ Synapse Audio, or Brian @ Blamsoft that. :lol: :D ;)
Who is Brian @ Blamsoft anyway? :P
antic604 wrote:
26 Jan 2019
No, it's great for what it is but it's not *really* analog - I thought there can't be much of a difference until I got Analog Four Mk1 :)
Amusingly enough, I owned the Analog Four mk1 for a short time. The specs looked good on paper, but I thought it's character was very clinical and boring to be honest. Not a device I would think of as a selling point for hardware analogue tbh.

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Who is Brian @ Blamsoft anyway? :P
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, that should have been Andrew. :puf_wink: :puf_bigsmile:
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eXode wrote:
15 Feb 2019
antic604 wrote:
26 Jan 2019
No, it's great for what it is but it's not *really* analog - I thought there can't be much of a difference until I got Analog Four Mk1 :)
Amusingly enough, I owned the Analog Four mk1 for a short time. The specs looked good on paper, but I thought it's character was very clinical and boring to be honest. Not a device I would think of as a selling point for hardware analogue tbh.
You might be right, but it's my 1st ever truly analog gear, so for me the difference was very obvious and quite substantial - more so than I expected.

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