scratchnsnifff wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018
joeyluck wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018
I think it's unnecessary when there are examples such as VK-2 that are the same scale and rack size. When I put Respire and VK-2 next to each other, they look like two big peas in a pod.
It's definitely on the devs to update a GUI if they feel the need.
i Definitely understand reworking a UI is the developers choice. However I was wondering if its ever been heard of where a developer needs help, and the props jump in for a helping hand
But as for my opinion on the UI
Sure it works. But it could definitely use improvement. Vk2 works, because it doesn’t have the stepper/arp plus effects. It just has the switchable panel
I also don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want the Re to look and function just like the VST? (Skins excluded)
That one mock-up is literally perfect. The stepper and arp being in the open (for editing) is such a difference in workflow.
It’s a weird topic for me because I love the sound, but the Re just doesn’t have a finished feel. It’s only the GUI that errks my taters lol
By the way, I am in no way trying to be negative towards you or reveal or anyone. Just trying to share thoughts :p
Oh you're all good!
I think Propellerhead has helped some folks perhaps with GUI stuff? Maybe they even helped Reveal already? But I would imagine most of that happens during the creation stages. I don't imagine anybody would be contracting the help of Propellerhead to fine-tune something that is really done and works GUI-wise, or Propellerhead offering help for free for something that is done and functions. Not sure about any of that...
It's interesting what we all expect to see when we become used to something or have something to reference. If Respire were only a RE and there was no VST to compare to, what would people be ok with? And it's really not even that off.
I look at something like Expanse, and I'm sure people have also made suggestions for it? But I guess I feel I see less complaints about the tiny OSC sequence section, which has its steps on multiple pages.
I'm certainly not against people making GUI suggestions. Shoot I was the one who created the mockup and proposed the drastic downsize of RP-Verb by 4U. It was originally a 9U and I proposed changes to make it a 5U. For me personally, I felt that made a huge difference; there was just so much space. And Rob Papen answered and they agreed and liked the idea...and then did the same for RP-Distort.
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While on the topic of Rob Papen, I remember when people were hoping for the same GUI for Predator as found on the VST. It was updated to look cleaner, but still wasn't made to look like the VST. And originally pages and panels weren't possible. But even after the fact, I find I prefer the RE look and layout. And Rob Papen could technically revisit it I guess to update it to look like the VST? But it works.
I'm not against the idea of Respire's GUI getting an edit. I guess I just don't understand some of the strong opinions of others against the Respire GUI and the developer. There's more examples than Blamsoft, and I don't mean to point at them to say they're doing anything wrong, because I think it's fine. But when you have VK-2 that is the same scale as Respire and Expanse which uses tiny displays for things as well, I find it hard to understand why some people are so upset over Respire. I've never used the VST, so the RE is what I know and it works. The mockup looks like a slight improvement and I wouldn't mind it, but I wouldn't be upset if it remains as is. That's all.