Output Arcade is my favorite plugin right now.
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That is all. Just had to share.
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I hadn't seen this yet, when you referred to it as a plugin, I had to have a look.
Cool to see they are making stuff that doesn't require Kontakt...
And hopefully their installation process is simpler with their own plugin?
Would be great if they could move all of their stuff to self-contained plugins!
Cool to see they are making stuff that doesn't require Kontakt...
And hopefully their installation process is simpler with their own plugin?
Would be great if they could move all of their stuff to self-contained plugins!
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Yeah, it was just as simple as running an executable and logging in to your Output account - done. Just some of the content is magical - I've spent hours just messing with stuff. It's essentially a sampler, but holy crap... I can't put it into words - most of the content is just top notch awesome. Love it!joeyluck wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018I hadn't seen this yet, when you referred to it as a plugin, I had to have a look.
Cool to see they are making stuff that doesn't require Kontakt...
And hopefully their installation process is simpler with their own plugin?
Would be great if they could move all of their stuff to self-contained plugins!
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Seems to be a trend to move away from Kontakt for some companies. Spitfire Audio also delivers some stuff now in their own plug-in. I love Output for their sound, but it was a huge mess to deal with it in the past.
Arcade seems interesting. Not sure I want subscription, but 100 days seems to be enough to squeeze a lot of content out of this.
Arcade seems interesting. Not sure I want subscription, but 100 days seems to be enough to squeeze a lot of content out of this.
Isteresting plugin ... I could't find out if I could still use it with my own loops after cancelling subsription.
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Without a sub, it's not completely 100% functional. Any songs you make or projects saved, will play back just fine - but you're locked out of editing without an active sub. But with the sub, otherwise, you can use your own loops/samples just fine.
I realize the subscription model isn't for everyone. This is like buying a mid/top-tier VST plugin once a year ($120 USD/year for the sub), so if you're not willing to do that.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But the first 100 days are free, and that was enough to hook me. YMMV...
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I give it a try.EnochLight wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018Without a sub, it's not completely 100% functional. Any songs you make or projects saved, will play back just fine - but you're locked out of editing without an active sub. But with the sub, otherwise, you can use your own loops/samples just fine.
I realize the subscription model isn't for everyone. This is like buying a mid/top-tier VST plugin once a year ($120 USD/year for the sub), so if you're not willing to do that.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But the first 100 days are free, and that was enough to hook me. YMMV...
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I haven't tried Arcade and I do not want to subscribe for eternity, so...
Has anyone canceled the subscription and found out what still works?
My guess from Output's info is they save the VST state in a project but render the GUI non-functional, but react to incoming midi.
If you made and saved patches with your own loops can you open the patch in a new project?
Same but with Output loops, is it possible to open up that patch in a new project?
What if you save a patch in a Combinator, can you open that in a new project?
Can the 4 macro sliders still take automation or CV?
What about sending CC/CV to other parameters, can you still manipulate any variable in the triggered 8black key) FX pages?
I think it can be a workable solution to jump in/out of a subscription, but the patches I make, at least with my own loops, should still be possible to use in new projects for it to be useful.
Has anyone canceled the subscription and found out what still works?
My guess from Output's info is they save the VST state in a project but render the GUI non-functional, but react to incoming midi.
If you made and saved patches with your own loops can you open the patch in a new project?
Same but with Output loops, is it possible to open up that patch in a new project?
What if you save a patch in a Combinator, can you open that in a new project?
Can the 4 macro sliders still take automation or CV?
What about sending CC/CV to other parameters, can you still manipulate any variable in the triggered 8black key) FX pages?
I think it can be a workable solution to jump in/out of a subscription, but the patches I make, at least with my own loops, should still be possible to use in new projects for it to be useful.
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I've been using it since it came out, basically a whole unique sample library. I get vocal chops from their all the time.
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+1 from me for arcade too as the content is really good and I love editing the samples and black key functions for different varieties. One thing I didn't notice till later on was that the keys around c0 alters the key (i really should read manuals). Out of interest does automation work in reason with arcade now as i seem to recall it didn't before? I mostly use studio one and reason rack plugin now so haven't tried arcade in reason for quite a while.
I own almost everything by Output just not Arcade because of it being a subscription service, which I always try to avoid.
Is it actually sample based or are there also instruments that generate their own sound?
By the way, I don't know if Output is really moving away from Kontakt, or at least not from Native Instruments. I used to upload my Output plugins through their own app "Output Hub", which is not working since weeks. I wrote an email to their support and they pointed me to Native Instruments' Native Access to upload my Output plugins.
My guess is that they're going to abandone their old plugins almost completely, leave users to set up these through Native Access and concentrate in apps that bring them more money with subscription plans like Arcade.
Is it actually sample based or are there also instruments that generate their own sound?
By the way, I don't know if Output is really moving away from Kontakt, or at least not from Native Instruments. I used to upload my Output plugins through their own app "Output Hub", which is not working since weeks. I wrote an email to their support and they pointed me to Native Instruments' Native Access to upload my Output plugins.
My guess is that they're going to abandone their old plugins almost completely, leave users to set up these through Native Access and concentrate in apps that bring them more money with subscription plans like Arcade.
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I did. Any projects you saved in your song will play back; you cannot edit any parameters or load any new sounds. That’s all.Boombastix wrote: ↑28 Jan 2020I haven't tried Arcade and I do not want to subscribe for eternity, so...
Has anyone canceled the subscription and found out what still works?
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Did you save Arcade inside a Combinator and successfully opened it another project after the sub expired? I'm interested to know if I can use my own samples and created patches in new projects that way.EnochLight wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020I did. Any projects you saved in your song will play back; you cannot edit any parameters or load any new sounds. That’s all.Boombastix wrote: ↑28 Jan 2020I haven't tried Arcade and I do not want to subscribe for eternity, so...
Has anyone canceled the subscription and found out what still works?
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Yes. It doesn't matter how it's saved - if there is no active sub, you are locked out from editing, loading, tweaking, or doing anything in Output. It just plays back the loaded Output preset (or sample) that it was saved as. You can play that with your MIDI controller or through the song it was saved in, but that's about it.Boombastix wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020Did you save Arcade inside a Combinator and successfully opened it another project after the sub expired? I'm interested to know if I can use my own samples and created patches in new projects that way.EnochLight wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020
I did. Any projects you saved in your song will play back; you cannot edit any parameters or load any new sounds. That’s all.
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