10.2 will be paid update?
Bcs the props website says buy 10 now and get 10.2 for free. They originally said all updates to 10 would be free till the end of the year. Or is it just marketink trick to offer 10.2 for free for those who buy reason now although it is free for all owners anyway?
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I think it is a free update for those who have r10
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It's not a paid update, they just worded it weird!Rason wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018Bcs the props website says buy 10 now and get 10.2 for free. They originally said all updates to 10 would be free till the end of the year. Or is it just marketink trick to offer 10.2 for free for those who buy reason now although it is free for all owners anyway?
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I literally can't wait for the VST update. To be clear, I get good performance...or at least good enough that I can work. But I know it can be better. And when it is, and we're all set up for 11, woooooo boyyyyyyy.
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I did some digging last night and saw that 9.5 was announced in late Marchchimp_spanner wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018I literally can't wait for the VST update. To be clear, I get good performance...or at least good enough that I can work. But I know it can be better. And when it is, and we're all set up for 11, woooooo boyyyyyyy.
So if they are on the same schedule, we may not see the .5 update for another 6 months or so.
Honestly the 10.1 and 10.2 updates are what I have been excited about. The vst stuff is fun at times but I have just been finding so much use for grain and Europa
Do you think they will wait that long for the vst update? Or is it likely that they would release the performance patch before the year is up. I don’t remember when they announced 10, but I’d like to see when 11 is likely to come out. I’m hoping for a combinator
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I have a few (mostly gfx intensive) VSTs that are not usable. the rest varies. So i can live with the actual state too, but awaiting a performance optimization soon.chimp_spanner wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018I literally can't wait for the VST update. To be clear, I get good performance...or at least good enough that I can work. But I know it can be better. And when it is, and we're all set up for 11, woooooo boyyyyyyy.
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Just to clarify: if you own Reason 10 -> Reason 10.2 is a free update.
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I don't think there's a single VST that's problematic on its own! It seems to be when you've got a lot of them in the project, plus RE's, it just becomes a lot more jittery and sensitive to any kind of CPU activity. That's how it feels anyway. But I mean usually I'm running Superior 3, at least one Kontakt, several POD Farms, synths, CV stuff and it holds together well. But the thought that it could perform even better really opens up some possibilities. And also means I don't have to part with this laptop just yet. I do love it so haha.Loque wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018I have a few (mostly gfx intensive) VSTs that are not usable. the rest varies. So i can live with the actual state too, but awaiting a performance optimization soon.chimp_spanner wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018I literally can't wait for the VST update. To be clear, I get good performance...or at least good enough that I can work. But I know it can be better. And when it is, and we're all set up for 11, woooooo boyyyyyyy.
Has there ever been a paid point update of Reason?
I thought 9.2 or 9.5 was paid. But I skipped whole 9 so I dont know. But they always give free new paid version if ppl buy the current one just prior the release so I thought this was the case. But ofc its not.joeyluck wrote:Has there ever been a paid point update of Reason?
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Nope, the point updates have always been free. A lot of people remember paying for 9.5 because they skipped 9.0.Rason wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018I thought 9.2 or 9.5 was paid. But I skipped whole 9 so I dont know. But they always give free new paid version if ppl buy the current one just prior the release so I thought this was the case. But ofc its not.joeyluck wrote:Has there ever been a paid point update of Reason?
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^ Ah, this explains it! I was sure people were complaining about paying for 9.5...while still being on 8. Now it makes sense.esselfortium wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018Nope, the point updates have always been free. A lot of people remember paying for 9.5 because they skipped 9.0.
there is one. and it is Bias. it's probably not the only thing, really, but it definitely does seem to be doing a number on my DSP meter. I have a friend who can't even use one instance of Bias FX without encountering pops and clicks.
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Yeah you only pay for the whole number upgrades.chimp_spanner wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018^ Ah, this explains it! I was sure people were complaining about paying for 9.5...while still being on 8. Now it makes sense.esselfortium wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018
Nope, the point updates have always been free. A lot of people remember paying for 9.5 because they skipped 9.0.
It seems like they get the day one purchases, see what improvements are a priority then scoop up a few more upgrades half way into the product's life cycle when the noisiest topics are dealt with.
It's not a bad way of working I guess. Better than feeling you're constantly working with beta releases anyhow.
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Oh for real? I’m sure it works okay over here. What are your/his specs and project settings?
mine I can get several instances on, but when I start doing other processing, stuff piles up pretty quickly with Bias FX on a small handful of tracks. not sure if it reserves DSP usage for effects that are in the chain, but bypassed. if so, that might be a big part of the problem. I should try that...chimp_spanner wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018Oh for real? I’m sure it works okay over here. What are your/his specs and project settings?
we both have decently-spec-ed computers (~ 2 year old i7s, 16+GB RAM), using ASIO drivers, but with low buffer settings (64 or 128) for recording.
turns out four instances of Bias FX with a 1024 sample buffer were making a fairly busy song unplayable without significant clicks and pops. replacing the Bias plugs with Kuassa's Vermilion RE let me play with *almost* no clicks at a 96 sample buffer.guitfnky wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018mine I can get several instances on, but when I start doing other processing, stuff piles up pretty quickly with Bias FX on a small handful of tracks. not sure if it reserves DSP usage for effects that are in the chain, but bypassed. if so, that might be a big part of the problem. I should try that...chimp_spanner wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018
Oh for real? I’m sure it works okay over here. What are your/his specs and project settings?
we both have decently-spec-ed computers (~ 2 year old i7s, 16+GB RAM), using ASIO drivers, but with low buffer settings (64 or 128) for recording.
I don't know much about how buffer and DSP use interact (other than the obvious; lower is more CPU intensive), but that seems like a pretty significant difference for four instances of a plugin.
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Nope.
Both 9.2 and 9.5 were free updates - to all 9.0 owners. In fact, all "point" updates are free to full version owners of the version being "point updated". It's been like this since Reason 1.0, and I see no evidence that they will change that practice.
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Wish I got good VST performance, I can add maybe 5-10 instances of anything before Reason cuts out.chimp_spanner wrote: ↑18 Sep 2018I literally can't wait for the VST update. To be clear, I get good performance...or at least good enough that I can work. But I know it can be better. And when it is, and we're all set up for 11, woooooo boyyyyyyy.
In Ableton Live I can have 30-50 and be fine, but I've sold my license. I think I'm just going to hold off any making any music until the VST update is released.
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