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AIRE Strings http://www.softphonics.com/aire-strings
AIRE Woodwinds http://www.softphonics.com/aire-woodwinds
For those of you interested in Rack Extensions, not VST's!
For those of you interested in better price points
For those of you interested in stability etc..
Please check them out.
AIRE Woodwinds http://www.softphonics.com/aire-woodwinds
For those of you interested in Rack Extensions, not VST's!
For those of you interested in better price points
For those of you interested in stability etc..
Please check them out.
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Samples or Modeled?
Wheres the product pages?
Wheres the product pages?
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Longtime coming. Great to see you close to release with these.
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The interfaces look very cryptic.
Will these have true legato?
Will these have true legato?
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Why, tell us more!
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Hi, Thank you, The AIRE Rack extensions have more than the refills and more obviously the have loads of tweakable parameters and effects. We did not just simply turn the older refills into RE's there is new sound in there too!
Compressor Labels were added to the Release version They didn't make it into the advert
Don't think they are the same thing, Turning this knob on the interface will do a few things from.. ever so slightly adjusting the sample quality. optimizing the instrument to suit your system. Also how many samples it has loaded at once and ready for action. That is the bones of it.. But there is more features like automatic sample purging to keep everything running smooth
Thanks man
Samples, Thousands of them, And the product pages will appear in the next few days.
IDT yes, but different to what has come before, Imminent meaning 'any day now' More than refills, better sounding, loads of parameters. Next Generation
There is people working on the sound examples as I speak, hold tight
I'm not a samples guy unfortunately, all about the modeled or self-produced stuff. Still I'll have a listen!
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I presume you mean 'Modeled' when it comes to synths or other electronic instruments,
But 'Modeled' on Acoustic instruments would be a back step? Unless you like synth clarinets or French Horns as opposed to real ones! which is not what these instruments are for
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I see strings and woodwinds in those REs. Will there be a brass RE as well?
And as asked by esselfortium, is there true legato? The Encore refill had some nice legato options, if I'm remembering correctly.
And as asked by esselfortium, is there true legato? The Encore refill had some nice legato options, if I'm remembering correctly.
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Hi, Yes absolutely there is Brass and several others too. They just wont all be released togetherjayhosking wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018I see strings and woodwinds in those REs. Will there be a brass RE as well?
And as asked by esselfortium, is there true legato? The Encore refill had some nice legato options, if I'm remembering correctly.
Regarding legato, Yes in Encore we had to work within the ability of the combinator and find a way, but this is much different. Legato is there when notes overlap, no extra parameter automation needed.
I mean Modeled when it comes to any instruments, I haven't purchased any sample-based instruments in years. I just keep on the lookout for new companies wading into the fray, like Applies Acoustics, Moddart, etc who take it a major step forward. Wallander actually have great instruments but they kinda missed the boat with poor marketing. I have no intention of going back to samples.Softphonics wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018I presume you mean 'Modeled' when it comes to synths or other electronic instruments,
But 'Modeled' on Acoustic instruments would be a back step? Unless you like synth clarinets or French Horns as opposed to real ones! which is not what these instruments are for
More power to you though, there's still a majority who aren't like me.
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Psuper, you are not making much sense there, Modeled is great for certain instruments, but not acoustic orchestral... Think you need to go do some homework dude, or calm down on the shmokinPsuper wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018I mean Modeled when it comes to any instruments, I haven't purchased any sample-based instruments in years. I just keep on the lookout for new companies wading into the fray, like Applies Acoustics, Moddart, etc who take it a major step forward. Wallander actually have great instruments but they kinda missed the boat with poor marketing. I have no intention of going back to samples.Softphonics wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018
I presume you mean 'Modeled' when it comes to synths or other electronic instruments,
But 'Modeled' on Acoustic instruments would be a back step? Unless you like synth clarinets or French Horns as opposed to real ones! which is not what these instruments are for
More power to you though, there's still a majority who aren't like me.
Great to see you entering the RE market Softphonics! ...... You just keep doing what you do best....
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The convincing part of most instruments, modeled or sampled, is how its played. I did schmoke the shit outta the dank back in my day, but I can't be the only one these days who knows about Wallander and AA. And these are just the beginning, we'll be seeing more and more as the tech continues to shift from sample libraries to modeled instruments.PurpleMonkeyDishes wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018Psuper, you are not making much sense there, Modeled is great for certain instruments, but not acoustic orchestral... Think you need to go do some homework dude, or calm down on the shmokinPsuper wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018
I mean Modeled when it comes to any instruments, I haven't purchased any sample-based instruments in years. I just keep on the lookout for new companies wading into the fray, like Applies Acoustics, Moddart, etc who take it a major step forward. Wallander actually have great instruments but they kinda missed the boat with poor marketing. I have no intention of going back to samples.
More power to you though, there's still a majority who aren't like me.
Great to see you entering the RE market Softphonics! ...... You just keep doing what you do best....
As I said, I'm in a minority and he'll do fine. Heck there's still even the possibility his instruments might make me buy them, never know! However I'm always a minority before eventually becoming a part of the majority without changing my opinion.
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There's no doubt that there's a market in modeled instruments, acoustic orchestral as well. And as Psuper said, it's all down to how theyre played and automated, like with all orchestral elements, sampled or not.
The SWAM products, both strings and woodwinds blew me away. I've not heard as convincing solo strings and flutes before, and they are the first thing I'll purchase when the budget allows for that, followed by a Seaboard Rise.
The SWAM products, both strings and woodwinds blew me away. I've not heard as convincing solo strings and flutes before, and they are the first thing I'll purchase when the budget allows for that, followed by a Seaboard Rise.
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SWAM is partly sample-based though, right? I certainly haven't heard any 100% modeled (i.e., zero use of samples) acoustic instruments that sounded remotely convincing to me, whereas SWAM and some others that do use samples can absolutely get to a level of realism that will fool most listeners when properly played/programmed.
A "no sampled instruments" policy may be fine for some people, but obviously wouldn't be workable for anyone who needs to do serious orchestral mockups, etc.
A "no sampled instruments" policy may be fine for some people, but obviously wouldn't be workable for anyone who needs to do serious orchestral mockups, etc.
For the woodwinds, SWAM is partly sample based. The physics surrounding the pipe (breath control etc) is modeled though.househoppin09 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018SWAM is partly sample-based though, right? I certainly haven't heard any 100% modeled (i.e., zero use of samples) acoustic instruments that sounded remotely convincing to me, whereas SWAM and some others that do use samples can absolutely get to a level of realism that will fool most listeners when properly played/programmed.
A "no sampled instruments" policy may be fine for some people, but obviously wouldn't be workable for anyone who needs to do serious orchestral mockups, etc.
SWAM-S (strings) is purely modeled. No samples whatsoever.
Edit: For ensembles, I agree with you. But if I were to do a serious piece, mockup or not, I would never use a purely sample based device for solo strings. There's simply too many limits when it comes to expression, vibrato and so on. Even with extensive programming/automation, it's quite difficult to avoid artifacts.
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I've had fantastic results using Embertone's solo strings (for Kontakt) for expressive leads. They sound great and are very versatile! I've used them in paid work on several projects now, and clients have all been very pleased with the results. I've used them for emotive melody parts, layering with strings sections, bluegrass fiddle parts, etc., and they've easily been up to the task in all cases, sounding realistic and expressive even on challenging parts.
The video demos I've seen of SWAM's instruments are impressive for sure, but they also look like they require a lot more detailed automation to sound convincing, whereas Embertone's sound good even just with basic playing, and sound amazing with just relatively simple automation. Good sampling still has a lot to offer!
The video demos I've seen of SWAM's instruments are impressive for sure, but they also look like they require a lot more detailed automation to sound convincing, whereas Embertone's sound good even just with basic playing, and sound amazing with just relatively simple automation. Good sampling still has a lot to offer!
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Agreed with this, and I'd also say that anyone looking for good sampled solo strings owes it to themselves to check out Virharmonic's "Bohemian" series. Simply stunning levels of playability.esselfortium wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018I've had fantastic results using Embertone's solo strings (for Kontakt) for expressive leads. They sound great and are very versatile! I've used them in paid work on several projects now, and clients have all been very pleased with the results. I've used them for emotive melody parts, layering with strings sections, bluegrass fiddle parts, etc., and they've easily been up to the task in all cases, sounding realistic and expressive even on challenging parts.
The video demos I've seen of SWAM's instruments are impressive for sure, but they also look like they require a lot more detailed automation to sound convincing, whereas Embertone's sound good even just with basic playing, and sound amazing with just relatively simple automation. Good sampling still has a lot to offer!
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This thread has been hijacked by vst fans.... That is why this place is gone so down hill.
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this is so sad,so many topics have this disease, ring mod topic for example..PurpleMonkeyDishes wrote: ↑01 Feb 2018This thread has been hijacked by vst fans.... That is why this place is gone so down hill.
I don't think it's about VST fans. Sure, some people will swear to RE's only, some will swear to VST's only, but in the end it's about choosing the right tool for the job. Some RE's will cater your needs better than VST's and visa versa.PurpleMonkeyDishes wrote: ↑01 Feb 2018This thread has been hijacked by vst fans.... That is why this place is gone so down hill.
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