Converting CV to notes
Hello,
I'm wondering if there is a way to convert an arbitrary cv signal (bipolar or unipolar) to a series of notes.
I know there is the CV Tuner RE, but I find it really limited for two reasons:
1. You have little control over the base note of the scale. You can just about wrestle control using CV Suite to control the range of the incoming CV signal and try to position the lowest point on the note you want, but it is really fiddly.
2. Your scale can only span an octave after which point it is repeated across all other octaves. For example, I might want my scale to consist of C4 E4 G4 D5 A6 which isn't possible.
Is there any way using CV routing and utility REs that I can define a scale spanning multiple octaves and have it played by CV signal (for example a sawtooth wave generated from Pulsar)?
I'm wondering if there is a way to convert an arbitrary cv signal (bipolar or unipolar) to a series of notes.
I know there is the CV Tuner RE, but I find it really limited for two reasons:
1. You have little control over the base note of the scale. You can just about wrestle control using CV Suite to control the range of the incoming CV signal and try to position the lowest point on the note you want, but it is really fiddly.
2. Your scale can only span an octave after which point it is repeated across all other octaves. For example, I might want my scale to consist of C4 E4 G4 D5 A6 which isn't possible.
Is there any way using CV routing and utility REs that I can define a scale spanning multiple octaves and have it played by CV signal (for example a sawtooth wave generated from Pulsar)?
Last edited by Goodbye on 03 Aug 2017, edited 1 time in total.
@jappe Thanks for the link, but I don't want to create midi notes. I'm trying to control the conversion of a CV signal to a note CV signal. Obviously it is easy enough to pipe a CV (from an LFO for example) into the Note CV of an instrument and it is possible to control the range of notes by transforming the range of the CV signal using CV Suite. My problem is that this leads to all the notes between the top and bottom of the CV signal being played. I want a way of limiting the notes that will be played to a scale I have defined. I don't need the notes in a track or anything like that.
@Oquasec What do you mean by 'Prolly just thor as a converter'. How would I use Thor for mapping a CV signal to my chosen series of notes?
@Oquasec What do you mean by 'Prolly just thor as a converter'. How would I use Thor for mapping a CV signal to my chosen series of notes?
My simplest approach was to attach the CV notes to a Player in a Combinator. I used Janitor for CV scaling, hope you have it, otherwise i can see if i can do it with Thor. Note, that from Thor you can also use its sequencer and Midi-Note outs from its Mod-Matrix to do even more stuff.
To replicate, connect your CV signals to a Combinator which contains the Synth. Attach a Chords-Player to this synth. Make only the synth receive notes in the Combinator Mod-Matrix.
To replicate, connect your CV signals to a Combinator which contains the Synth. Attach a Chords-Player to this synth. Make only the synth receive notes in the Combinator Mod-Matrix.
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CV8X4 - CV to note generator. See CV#note. FREE
Selig Gain - Can scale the value coming out of MoPol (Trim mode bipolar, VCA unipolar) will scale the note and works for the velocity on the gate also. NOT FREE
MoPol - Will merge the gate and note signals to be connected to gate and note on a device. FREE
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Selig Gain - Can scale the value coming out of MoPol (Trim mode bipolar, VCA unipolar) will scale the note and works for the velocity on the gate also. NOT FREE
MoPol - Will merge the gate and note signals to be connected to gate and note on a device. FREE
↑ combi
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Try this. This uses Players to do something similar to CV Tuner but with all the octaves and a transpose function. Or if you don't want to use Note Echo (Pitch knob) for transposition, you can transpose using the Combinator programmer.
There is a Spider audio inserted before the Combinator also in case you want to scale the CV Note output from the Matrix. Again, this is optional.
There is a Spider audio inserted before the Combinator also in case you want to scale the CV Note output from the Matrix. Again, this is optional.
I have been a fan of OchenK's CV utilities for a long time, the scale you are asking for is possible with the Combinator and 2 or more CV Tuner devices. try assigning notes below C5 to a tuner that has the custom scale CEG and all notes above to custom scale D&A. open the programmer and tick the assign notes to both the CV tuner devices then select the note range for eachGoodbye wrote: ↑03 Aug 2017Hello,
I'm wondering if there is a way to convert an arbitrary cv signal (bipolar or unipolar) to a series of notes.
I know there is the CV Tuner RE, but I find it really limited for two reasons:
1. You have little control over the base note of the scale. You can just about wrestle control using CV Suite to control the range of the incoming CV signal and try to position the lowest point on the note you want, but it is really fiddly.
2. Your scale can only span an octave after which point it is repeated across all other octaves. For example, I might want my scale to consist of C4 E4 G4 D5 A6 which isn't possible.
Is there any way using CV routing and utility REs that I can define a scale spanning multiple octaves and have it played by CV signal (for example a sawtooth wave generated from Pulsar)?
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@Bes Thank you. I didn't know you could map keys using the combinator. I think I have things set up as you described, though I'm just using keyboard to input the notes, but I can't get a CV signal out of the CV Tuners, although the combinator shows my key presses and the lights on the front of the first CV Tuner light up. Please could you take a quick look and see what I'm doing wrong.
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oh yea that's because CV tuner is set to react to midi data differently to CV.
Midi notes C3 through B4 will enable that corresponding note in scale only for the time the note is held. All other midi note data is ignored so now I am thinking this method is bogus because no matter what CV signal you plug into the combi it is midi note data that we asked the programmer to send to the CV tuner. sigh
Midi notes C3 through B4 will enable that corresponding note in scale only for the time the note is held. All other midi note data is ignored so now I am thinking this method is bogus because no matter what CV signal you plug into the combi it is midi note data that we asked the programmer to send to the CV tuner. sigh
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Man...now i just ran into a similar problem, but this time not to play a synth. I wanted to play my little "Fritz" RE play a lil melody that comes from CV signals and this little Fritz does not have a keyboard-scale option and does not supprt keyboard playing. Looks like only CV Tuner from OChen K. can do the job, but i didnt want to buy anything from him, until he fixes all the still open bugs in his devices. I just look also on Kron (when and if it will ever come), but i could not see any Keyboard-Scaling tool. Than i remineded, that Proton has this cool little feature, but mehhh, i can route a input to it, but it doesnt let me output it....
So, in the end...Any non CV-Tuner option out there that works within a Combintor?
So, in the end...Any non CV-Tuner option out there that works within a Combintor?
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Hmm ty for info (i have just CV Tuner which bought once (did not used enough yet tho), and thought to buy some other of his re's. It seems need think better).Loque wrote: ↑24 May 20204Mer doesn't recall parameters correctly and Carve crashes under specific cases. I don't have all RE of him, but heard of bugs in the others too. Instead of fixing and standing to the shortcomings he ran away. That's sad, because his devices were very innovative back in that time.
complex-1 does have note quantization to a custom 12-tone scale, as well as cv in.
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