Improved Website! I'm impressed! :)

[joeyluck]

I definitely can tell that the focus is more broad now.  They're pushing their newest service - which is still Discover.  That said, Reason (and RE's) pays the bills.  Them promoting the mobile musician approach, Discover, Take, etc - just seems like trying to bring in new customers.  Makes sense to me, as it all leads to Reason and more RE buyers.  Just my 2 cents.

Yup! That's exactly it. Discover, Take, and Figure are free... and they are free for a REASON (pun intended). I really don't understand how some folks think there's something else to it... 

[Biolumin3sc3nt]

I definitely can tell that the focus is more broad now.  They're pushing their newest service - which is still Discover.  That said, Reason (and RE's) pays the bills.  Them promoting the mobile musician approach, Discover, Take, etc - just seems like trying to bring in new customers.  Makes sense to me, as it all leads to Reason and more RE buyers.  Just my 2 cents.

Yup! That's exactly it. Discover, Take, and Figure are free... and they are free for a REASON (pun intended). I really don't understand how some folks think there's something else to it... 

My initial response was just to that opening page,.which has now changed. I honestly hope Discover becomes "the next big thing". It just kinda blew my mind that there was just mobile "only" mention and no "Highlight of Reason and the May Madness.

Anyway it's changed - Whatev's - I shall go back to my musical dungeon now

[Faastwalker]

It doesn't look much different to me. It's very flat & minimal, which seems to the current trend in web design. That's fine. I like it. But the home page has absolutely NADA about Reason. Why is this?! It's 100% Discover, 0% discovering Reason! I don't understand this at all.

[pjeudy]

 

Joey,Enoch I get the positive point of view ! I'm cool with it !
But the FLAG ship software is written in Text ? Not Large font but the same size font as everything else?
Does this change the meaning of Flagship? Why do our eyes go directly to the words and Icon that says Reason...is it because we already know what to look for.
I know what Propellerheads is known for...Rebirth/REASON.....so the software that started it all doesn't even get a front page Selfie From it's main and only web site? Unless one does a search specifically for REASON you wont see Reason on any front page of any popular/major online magazine no time of the week with no tips tricks..(of course i'm exaggerating a little to make a point there will always be one or two)..you'll see plenty of Ableton,Logic Pro etc...

On the front page it says Make Music and drop it to Propellerhead no tie end to the Flag ship software REASON. You will not find a post of me saying that Props is going out....but how does your product sale with out large advertisement on your own site, small text and icon is all that is needed? maybe Reason is more popular then I thought.
Go to NI site they proudly have on there front page there Keyboard drum machine and Flag ship software (s)...I guess there's are selling like hot cakes! Reason 8.5 Is going to be very interesting to see the reaction.

 By the way Joey when do you sleep ?  :comp:
Also there are some really quality Music coming from theses apps and people around the world.

[joeyluck]

 

Joey,Enoch I get the positive point of view ! I'm cool with it !
But the FLAG ship software is written in Text ? Not Large font but the same size font as everything else?
Does this change the meaning of Flagship? Why do our eyes go directly to the words and Icon that says Reason...is it because we already know what to look for.
I know what Propellerheads is known for...Rebirth/REASON.....so the software that started it all doesn't even get a front page Selfie From it's main and only web site? Unless one does a search specifically for REASON you wont see Reason on any front page of any popular/major online magazine no time of the week with no tips tricks..(of course i'm exaggerating a little to make a point there will always be one or two)..you'll see plenty of Ableton,Logic Pro etc...

On the front page it says Make Music and drop it to Propellerhead no tie end to the Flag ship software REASON. You will not find a post of me saying that Props is going out....but how does your product sale with out large advertisement on your own site, small text and icon is all that is needed? maybe Reason is more popular then I thought.
Go to NI site they proudly have on there front page there Keyboard drum machine and Flag ship software (s)...I guess there's are selling like hot cakes! Reason 8.5 Is going to be very interesting to see the reaction.

 By the way Joey when do you sleep ?  :comp:
Also there are some really quality Music coming from theses apps and people around the world.

But again this thinking assumes that people are simply 'stumbling upon' the Propellerhead site. As if it's a billboard by the side of the road.

I sleep between replies.

[gak]

I can't remember exactly when I went to the site and D/L'ed the demo, but TBH I thought the viddy was cool.

I've had all the hosts, been to all the websites and I don't really understand what was/is so terrible about props. 

[pjeudy]

But again this thinking assumes that people are simply 'stumbling upon' the Propellerhead site. As if it's a billboard by the side of the road.

But isn't that how ... (like MattiasHG described it before the closing of PUF "Wide eyed newcomer")
People are stumbling on Reason? If those Apps are the Hook to get newcomers interested and getting traffic into the site, with no Pictures of Reason the DAW front and center also ..then they would essentially have stumble upon Reason.
Props are Spamming there own Twitter feed with, try this, add your element to this and that,Discover this,Take that.
That cool they should stand behind there product...but where are the 52 weeks with Reason 8 or improve your Mix with the new mastering and engineering tools found in Reason 8..you know for the "Wide eyed newcomer"
Maybe I don't know...But Time reveals all truth.

I sleep between replies..

  :t2018:

[pjeudy]

 I don't really understand what was/is so terrible about props. 

Props are not terrible! we all Like Props (well most of us) that's why we all migrated and still use the Propellerheads DAW and buy there RE's.

[Benedict]

Yes I love Reason and so by extension Props (but not the young guys with beards).

I haven't seen anyone here suggest otherwise. We were discussing the new site. Some crazy people think it is cool and I, being fully sane, think that while it looks slick, feel it misses the point of presenting the software. I also get the strategy of luring in hipsters with iPhone toys in hope they transition to Reason. I hope it works. Of course my fear is that whilst they are focusing on those matters they aren't thinking about things that make the life of, fully sane and real, people like me better.

And the closure of the PUF has nothing to do with any of this so I don't get why it is being raised. I actually fully understood why that happened and said so publicly many times.

[ahs]

i have uploaded many songs but i can't find how to tag them as #ambient.

so my songs are never will be found :s0106:

[gak]

 I don't really understand what was/is so terrible about props. 

Props are not terrible! we all Like Props (well most of us) that's why we all migrated and still use the Propellerheads DAW and buy there RE's.

(party!) 

[gak]

@site: What I meant was that there was something about it (januaryish) that appealed to me. I've tried everything else (with much failure and much cash dispensed) and when I came upon the the website back then, I liked it. That was the point I was making

Frankly, I don't see anything in that time period that has changed much. I understand that some of the apps and discover have gotten better, but the SITE itself looks similar to me.

[Gaja]

Yes I love Reason and so by extension Props (but not the young guys with beards).

I haven't seen anyone here suggest otherwise. We were discussing the new site. Some crazy people think it is cool and I, being fully sane, think that while it looks slick, feel it misses the point of presenting the software. I also get the strategy of luring in hipsters with iPhone toys in hope they transition to Reason. I hope it works. Of course my fear is that whilst they are focusing on those matters they aren't thinking about things that make the life of, fully sane and real, people like me better.

And the closure of the PUF has nothing to do with any of this so I don't get why it is being raised. I actually fully understood why that happened and said so publicly many times.

Benedict, I don't mean to start a fight or anything, but I really think everyone knows that you hate it when young people have beards and headphones and all.
To me it comes along as if you're really prejudiced and try to sell it as the old cool, which is much better, because it's vintage.
It doesn't contribute to the topic at all and kind of annoys me, which is mainly because you post quality stuff all the time, really informative and well worded, which is quite contradictory to your last two posts in his thread. But also because I'm young, have a beard and wear headphones.

[Benedict]

Yes I love Reason and so by extension Props (but not the young guys with beards).

I haven't seen anyone here suggest otherwise. We were discussing the new site. Some crazy people think it is cool and I, being fully sane, think that while it looks slick, feel it misses the point of presenting the software. I also get the strategy of luring in hipsters with iPhone toys in hope they transition to Reason. I hope it works. Of course my fear is that whilst they are focusing on those matters they aren't thinking about things that make the life of, fully sane and real, people like me better.

And the closure of the PUF has nothing to do with any of this so I don't get why it is being raised. I actually fully understood why that happened and said so publicly many times.

Benedict, I don't mean to start a fight or anything, but I really think everyone knows that you hate it when young people have beards and headphones and all. To me it comes along as if you're really prejudiced and try to sell it as the old cool, which is much better, because it's vintage. It doesn't contribute to the topic at all and kind of annoys me, which is mainly because you post quality stuff all the time, really informative and well worded, which is quite contradictory to your last two posts in his thread. But also because I'm young, have a beard and wear headphones.

Well I am sorry you are personally offended. I don't see how you can be because as far as I know you look like a brown sign. Also if you read what I am really saying it has absolutely nothing to do with beards or headphones. I thought I made it clear I was being pretty tongue in cheek too. The only person who has any cause to take any of this personally is the marketing person at Props who came up with this strategy - and they probably don't as they know I am not target audience. 

I am flattered that you otherwise think highly of me and my input. Please accept my apologies.

[Biolumin3sc3nt]

Let's talk tomorrow guys - "Somewhere in the middle" of Time Zone, Yes? - Sexy time:



 

[FGL]

Let's talk tomorrow guys - "Somewhere in the middle" of Time Zone, Yes? - Sexy time:



 

A true Hero. I always hope my english sound like that. ; )

[FGL]

By the way, this improved Webside can not be seen if you are logged in.

[ckingram2006]

I remember when R8 first came out making the comment in the PUF that it looks like the Props focus and priority was no longer going to be Reason and that the companies vision moving forward was on IOS development and fun applications to play with as opposed to serious music making. This is just one more step in that direction. I still enjoy creating in Reason and will continue to do so but I have come to the conclusion that with every upgrade Reason will begin to feel less like a professional music making application and more like a really cool toy.

[Gaja]

Yes I love Reason and so by extension Props (but not the young guys with beards).

I haven't seen anyone here suggest otherwise. We were discussing the new site. Some crazy people think it is cool and I, being fully sane, think that while it looks slick, feel it misses the point of presenting the software. I also get the strategy of luring in hipsters with iPhone toys in hope they transition to Reason. I hope it works. Of course my fear is that whilst they are focusing on those matters they aren't thinking about things that make the life of, fully sane and real, people like me better.

And the closure of the PUF has nothing to do with any of this so I don't get why it is being raised. I actually fully understood why that happened and said so publicly many times.

Benedict, I don't mean to start a fight or anything, but I really think everyone knows that you hate it when young people have beards and headphones and all. To me it comes along as if you're really prejudiced and try to sell it as the old cool, which is much better, because it's vintage. It doesn't contribute to the topic at all and kind of annoys me, which is mainly because you post quality stuff all the time, really informative and well worded, which is quite contradictory to your last two posts in his thread. But also because I'm young, have a beard and wear headphones.

Well I am sorry you are personally offended. I don't see how you can be because as far as I know you look like a brown sign. Also if you read what I am really saying it has absolutely nothing to do with beards or headphones. I thought I made it clear I was being pretty tongue in cheek too. The only person who has any cause to take any of this personally is the marketing person at Props who came up with this strategy - and they probably don't as they know I am not target audience. 

I am flattered that you otherwise think highly of me and my input. Please accept my apologies.

All is good benedict! I accept your apologies and would like to offer mine for being so blunt

[-Rkn-]

I don't know but imho Reason was never a big thing in the pro-market, not even in semi-pro, and it will probably never be.

Therefore i think it's only logical that in the future Propellerhead will continue to try making Reason more easier and hip for beginners, amateurs, hobbyists or even non-musicians, together with Take, Figure and Discover all in combination with a social media like profil this could be appealing for their target audience.

Making it more professional for the pros makes no sense for Propellerhead that race is long lost to Logic, Cubase, Live or any other professional DAW.

Just my 2 cents.

[Alkua]

PH is still working on Reason, but the website is mainly promoting their mobile apps.

I agree with Biolumin3sc3nt

Why there is not banner or even small ad promoting the Madness sale? 

[syncanonymous]

" keep on looking forward
no use in lookin round
hold your head above the ground
dont let it bring you down"
\Anthem,Rush, sometime in the 70s

1975, killer wah solo in that song!...then Lifeson was always my biggest influence.

New web site is ok; I am old school too. I used to frequent the PH site for the forum alone. I wasn't hip on the old site either, to be fair. It's good they are embracing responsive design, it has to be that way in the modern web. I do like the menu and the drop down design: unfolding to the center of the screen.

Discover I know nothing about, really...I might have a peruse someday...I did look today, but no time to listen....gotta get back to editing:-). I have Figure on my ipad, but I use garage band much more.

[QVprod]

I don't know but imho Reason was never a big thing in the pro-market, not even in semi-pro, and it will probably never be.

Therefore i think it's only logical that in the future Propellerhead will continue to try making Reason more easier and hip for beginners, amateurs, hobbyists or even non-musicians, together with Take, Figure and Discover all in combination with a social media like profil this could be appealing for their target audience.

Making it more professional for the pros makes no sense for Propellerhead that race is long lost to Logic, Cubase, Live or any other professional DAW.

Just my 2 cents.

Not sure If I'd completely agree that it's never been a big thing in the Pro or semi pro market since many pro studios tend to have a copy, but I guess in comparison to the other programs, far less people are using it for professional audio work. So I kind of get what you're saying. Sure you can use Reason to mix and get professional results, but you can do the same in Garageband as well...doesn't necessarily mean it's the best option.

That aside, I agree Props have really never aimed Reason as direct competition with the other programs even after integrating Record. Many of us users just had an impression that they eventually would. Some even believed RE would become the next plugin standard lol. 

Reason's a very fun yet powerful creative tool, I guess thats the angle they're going with their marketing more-so now with the apps (since they're free they're clearly marketing tools). Might as well market to the "lets have fun" crowd since no one else is really doing it.

*side note: It is a bit curious though that their madness sale isn't advertised on the homepage at all. They're probably missing out on some...umm... Discoverers...you know .... the people who would actually have a reason to frequent the site.

[KEVMOVE02]

Listen, do you hear the times, passing you by? Look around you, see your grandparents, the shows from your childhood, that old dude talking bout "things were much better back in my day". Listen, can you understand the flow, do you really want them go to the place you thought was reserved for people like you? Don't they care about what we want? Don't we deserve the red carpet? Where's the perks that come with the grind and the time? How can they just pass me by? Wasn't I there for you when nobody cared to tell what we do? I'm not nothing, but I'm wishing you were. Too soon for time to be passing me by.

[Biolumin3sc3nt]

My Grandmother who is 98 appreciates Reason. - I've had in depth conversations with her about everything and anything. Problem is she won't remember today, but she still remembers My geeking out in front of a computer. God Bless