Ostermilk wrote:
You clearly haven't even read the contents of this thread have you, yet you persist with the idea that anyone that voted leave must be uneducated or a xenophobe. See Avosopht's earlier post for the demographic breakdown of the poll, such as it is.
Read it. Doesn't make any mention of what you are saying.
You might want to read it again, I can see the bit that's obviously confused you. Maybe you've struggled with what you were trying to type, I dunno.
I don't think you really understand that you are a bit on the xenophobic side.
Ostermilk wrote:
Xenophobes generally do not base decisions on evidence rather on impressions and a culture of 'blaming' others. You cllearly didn't read my earlier views on the rise of Xenophobia during the last century courtesy of the reaction to Treaty of Versaille (an idea hatched by some of the best Euro experts after WW1) which directly led to right wing extremism going past the tipping point and we all know how that turned out.
......yeah, because Germany got royally bummed by it. This is not in any logical way equivalent to the thousands of different EU legislation agreements. Versailles was a blame culture, and the EU agreements are compromises.
Ostermilk wrote:
Yes of course I seriously believe there's an alarming advance of the right wing spectrum throughout Europe, and add that it's likely milder in the UK than it is in some EU member states. I believe taking Brussels, the direction where many fingers throughout Europe are pointing, out of that equation removes one of the bigger excuses for that rise at least here in the UK.
The rise of the UK right wing has fuck all to do with Brussels. It is to do with losers needing someone else to blame for their failures. Your logic leads to the inevitable question "who to blame next?" once we leave the EU. You stand up to the fascists from day one, or you bend over for them. You appear to be lubing yourself up and giving them a cheeky wink.
You seem hell bent on denying that England has some of the worst racism problems in Europe. Granted there are 1 or 2 nations which are worse than England, but that's hardly absolution. Even better than that you reckon that more xenophobic behaviour is in some way a solution to this?
I mean, fucking, SERIOUSLY!?!?!?
Ostermilk wrote:
So, are you telling me that I'm an uneducated xenophobe for being compelled to vote one way or another (remembering that I didn't actually vote for any party offering an in/out referendum at any point) and then not voting the same way as you?
Uneducated? I cannot claim to know that. You may be educated, you may not be. I have made no assertions with regards to the state of you CV.
Xenophobe? Yes, you quite clearly are. You display a constant "us and them" mentality. Take a look at your own comments.
Vote whatever fucking way suits you, but don't then tell me that I should just accept it while the country slides into fascism.
Ostermilk wrote:I see now that I should have heeded the beware in your nick before I engaged...
I'm not trolling you.