Daylate wrote:i bought this bundle when i was over excited. these drums sound like absolute garbage. i cant even use them there so weak. just horrible i wish i could get my money back
I would not agree that they are useless. Sorry to hear you feel so. What exactly is it that make you feel so? Can you sort it out, what is missing?
I have not bought them but tested them randomly, not super deep. What I can recall I might find most use of the first one. But I won't buy until it is in a sale.
1) My main hesitations is the somewhat limited velocity and multisample feel to the sounds. Would wish for more natural variation for the music that I often do. This is not a problem for some genres though. I don't only mean the midi-auto-play, but also the core sounds when programming myself.
2) Lack of the available pre made midi to be editable in the sequencer.
3) The mod-wheel to control the overall drumming velocity, does not compare to the Drummer in Logic which actually have different intensity and playing sounds when changing its playing style gradually from soft to hard.
I love the individual outputs and one surely can get good mixes out of these RE:s. But they are not as versatile in its use to replace the drums I already have since earlier, from Reason Drums 2, Drumdrops refills, BDF Core/Jazz. The A-list feel as ok complements if a lot cheaper, but not the "must have" as I had hoped. Had there been more care for the details and other ways to edit the midi, it could have been a game changer.
But probably that would have taken it to be more of a new Drum Engine inside Reason as standard, but with expandable libraries with kits and midi to buy.
That said, these are not at all bad imo, they are just not right where my needs are, not to be worth spending €99. And the core reason is that I still with the limitations, have to tweak and do lot of work to get them more natural sounding. And then I can use multivelocity/sampled drums I already have got and instead get additional midi-files to tweak. But I am quite sure I will one day end up with at least one of these anyway, hard to get enough of drum options.
They are quick and handy for more advanced songwriting than to use Dr. Octorex. And they are enough good sounding to make it all the way too.
So those not having a lot of drums already, it might be worth to buy them. So it depends from person to person.
If there are any plans to make say a more acoustic A-list Jazzdrummer or percussionist or other similar, I hope they put the goal to make it to the same standard as the best that is out there when it comes to subtleness, natural variations, velocity responses and the multisamling technique.
Then I would buy it, even if the midi is a bit trapped in current format.