Shoegaze/ My Bloody Valentine guitars

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Post 19 Jun 2021

Hi all, is there a combinator/ VST/ ReFill (I am never sure of the correct term) that can reproduce the classic My Bloody Valentine guitar sound?

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Post 19 Jun 2021

brucelawson wrote:
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Hi all, is there a combinator/ VST/ ReFill (I am never sure of the correct term) that can reproduce the classic My Bloody Valentine guitar sound?
Dimi from Kuassa released a bunch of Combinators that feature some classic dreampop/shoegaze amp and effect sims, but you have to own the Kuassa Rack Extensions in order for them to work. Otherwise, using stock Reason devices, it's fairly easy to build your own effects chains and amp sims to get a great shoegaze/dreampop sound. What kind of guitar are you using? The sort of guitar you put through your amp/effect chains makes all the difference as well, IMHO.

*EDIT: also moved this thread to the appropriate forum.

Here's what they sound like:



Download the presets/patches here:

https://dimitones.wordpress.com/2018/07 ... ck-chains/
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Post 19 Jun 2021

brucelawson wrote:
19 Jun 2021
Hi all, is there a combinator/ VST/ ReFill (I am never sure of the correct term) that can reproduce the classic My Bloody Valentine guitar sound?
Put shape on the free IZotope Vinylizer warp CV.
Alternatively Turn2on Ghammy is the ultimate solution.
I’ve got a combi somewhere I made with Kuassa stuff and Fritz if you have any of those REs.
That said, I don’t care any more cos I just bought a Jazzmaster woohoo!!!!

Just remembered, Dimi from Kuassa made some combis for the fuzz sounds. No tremolo in those though. You can find them in the Kuassa website.
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Post 19 Jun 2021

could you post a link to some music for the sound you’re looking to emulate? fans may know what that “classic” sound is, but many others (who’d gladly like to help, if they can) won’t.

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guitfnky wrote:
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could you post a link to some music for the sound you’re looking to emulate? fans may know what that “classic” sound is, but many others (who’d gladly like to help, if they can) won’t.
Here :)


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guitfnky wrote:
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could you post a link to some music for the sound you’re looking to emulate? fans may know what that “classic” sound is, but many others (who’d gladly like to help, if they can) won’t.
One of the best My Bloody Valentine songs ever:

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Post 19 Jun 2021

Also a favorite:



The way Kevin Shields treated his guitars is freaking magical:

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Also a very great read regarding Kevin Shields' technique (fun fact: he sampled a lot):

https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... ly-shallow
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Post 19 Jun 2021

EnochLight wrote:
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Also a very great read regarding Kevin Shields' technique (fun fact: he sampled a lot):

https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... ly-shallow
Can’t see the videos you posted. What ones are your favourites?
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If you don’t have a trem arm in your guitar then, as I mentioned, this and an exp pedal will get you that drifting warped sound.

https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... h-shifter/

Couple of fuzzes in parallel on top of that.
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Fun fact. My friend Karyn lived in the same squat as Colm at the end of the 80s in London. Lots of noise emanating from the windows :).
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Post 19 Jun 2021

EnochLight wrote:
19 Jun 2021
guitfnky wrote:
19 Jun 2021
could you post a link to some music for the sound you’re looking to emulate? fans may know what that “classic” sound is, but many others (who’d gladly like to help, if they can) won’t.
One of the best My Bloody Valentine songs ever:

thank you both. that’s a pretty monstrous guitar sound! I’m surprised—thought I had to have heard at least some of their stuff, but I must’ve been thinking of another band (I was certain it was a male singer). this is a really good tune. I’ll have to check out some of their other stuff.

and I’m glad this turned into a bit of a celebration of the band in general. wish we’d see more of the stuff people love outside of just the “what are you listening to” thread. so much great music out there to find. :D

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Post 19 Jun 2021

not really, shoegaze is all about jazzmasters, effect pedals going into a real amp, I am in a shoegaze band :)

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guitfnky wrote:
19 Jun 2021
EnochLight wrote:
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One of the best My Bloody Valentine songs ever:

thank you both. that’s a pretty monstrous guitar sound! I’m surprised—thought I had to have heard at least some of their stuff, but I must’ve been thinking of another band (I was certain it was a male singer). this is a really good tune. I’ll have to check out some of their other stuff.

and I’m glad this turned into a bit of a celebration of the band in general. wish we’d see more of the stuff people love outside of just the “what are you listening to” thread. so much great music out there to find. :D
What song is it??!! All I see is “video not available”.
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only shallow, their most popular tune that everyone knows

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MarkTarlton wrote:
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only shallow, their most popular tune that everyone knows
Drive it All Over Me from You Made me Realise 12" is a favourite. :)
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Post 19 Jun 2021

MrFigg wrote:
19 Jun 2021
MarkTarlton wrote:
19 Jun 2021
only shallow, their most popular tune that everyone knows
Drive it All Over Me from You Made me Realise 12" is a favourite. :)
hell yeah!!

there are some really good bands out that have continued the spirit of the 90's... Have you heard these guys?


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MarkTarlton wrote:
19 Jun 2021
MrFigg wrote:
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Drive it All Over Me from You Made me Realise 12" is a favourite. :)
hell yeah!!

there are some really good bands out that have continued the spirit of the 90's... Have you heard these guys?

No!!! Thanks for the tip. Sound good. :).
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Post 19 Jun 2021

Wonder when the guy who actually started the thread is going to chime in hahahaha.
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littlejam
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Post 19 Jun 2021

hello,

i downloaded the presets
thank you very much
and while comparing to the video dimi posted of the preview
there are no 'smashing pumpkins' presets
there are no 'cranberries' presets

is there anyway of getting these presets please?

i'm going through my list of kuassa re to see how many i have / need
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littlejam wrote:
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i'm going through my list of kuassa re to see how many i have / need
It’s Kuassa man. You “need” them all :):):)
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Post 19 Jun 2021

MrFigg wrote:
19 Jun 2021
If you don’t have a trem arm in your guitar then, as I mentioned, this and an exp pedal will get you that drifting warped sound.

https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... h-shifter/

Couple of fuzzes in parallel on top of that.
How the hell did I miss this RE ??! This thing is pretty bad ass! Might be my first RE purchase in quite some time. :thumbup:
MrFigg wrote:
19 Jun 2021
Fun fact. My friend Karyn lived in the same squat as Colm at the end of the 80s in London. Lots of noise emanating from the windows :).
HAHAHAH!!! That's awesome!
MarkTarlton wrote:
19 Jun 2021
not really, shoegaze is all about jazzmasters, effect pedals going into a real amp, I am in a shoegaze band :)
To be fair, you can get that sound without a Jazzmaster guitar as well, but a Jazzmaster is certainly a fantastic guitar. But yeah, it's all about the effects pedals - hence the genre's name. ;) But you don't need a real amp anymore, no more than we need "real synthesizers" anymore.
MarkTarlton wrote:
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only shallow, their most popular tune that everyone knows
As they rightfully should - it's the opener to one of the most groundbreaking influential records in the last 30 years. :thumbup:

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Post 19 Jun 2021

hello,

having a great day now listening to
my bloody valentine
flying colors
slowdive



i've been listening to reggae for the last month

also listening now to
boards of canada
smashing pumpkins
galaxy 500
the church

i have 11 kuassa re
i need to get the efektor bundle
and the amplifikation bundle (although i already have 3)

if i can get those missing presets mentioned above
it's a done deal buy button smasher

trying to get in touch with dimi (kuassa) to ask

cheers,

j
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Post 19 Jun 2021

Enochpost_id=560645 wrote:
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To be fair, you can get that sound without a Jazzmaster guitar as well, but a Jazzmaster is certainly a fantastic guitar. But yeah, it's all about the effects pedals - hence the genre's name. ;) But you don't need a real amp anymore, no more than we need "real synthesizers" anymore.
I don't know any shoegaze recordings with amp sims, not saying there aren't any, just not any I know of. Please point to some so I can hear.

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Post 19 Jun 2021

Shoegaze/MBV style guitars is not just one "typical sound". There's lots of layering and of course lots of FX. Half the fun is from making ridiculous effects chains.

For anyone who likes that kind of thing, I would recommend my Chaos FX combinator packs: there are 3 of them now, and each one has 10 really good shoegazey-experimental-vaporwave-lo-fi combinators with things like Freeze reverbs, dub delays, a couple of really good fuzzes and distortions.

Available for 15 USD per pack here:
https://chaosmusick.com/chaosfx/

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