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Post 05 Jun 2020

I do also have quite some problems to determine what a supersaw is.

Can someone explain what a supersaw differs from a "brassy-saw" ?


like wongo mentioned in the actual refill thread ,there is a V2 on the way ?

so here´s another one, just freshly worked out ;-)


PS: it would be nice to know (even from someone) if the patches are worthy ?!? if i dont reach the "quality standards" i could "save up" my time :oops:
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Post 05 Jun 2020

Just real quick here because I have to go - I'm not a supersaw authority by any means, but at its very basic level, a supersaw is a bunch of SAW waves, detuned. That's why it's called a SUPER saw.

Your patch sounds like some sort of brassy instrument.
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Post 05 Jun 2020

hurricane wrote:
05 Jun 2020
Just real quick here because I have to go - I'm not a supersaw authority by any means, but at its very basic level, a supersaw is a bunch of SAW waves, detuned. That's why it's called a SUPER saw.

Your patch sounds like some sort of brassy instrument.
mhh... i have to admit that i have a favor for brassy instruments. :lol:

i tried to do what you describe with the last one, so if you have a bit more time, would you take a look at the patch settings and hint me to where i am going "wrong" ? ( For the result of getting a SS )
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Post 05 Jun 2020

NDKay wrote:
05 Jun 2020
i tried to do what you describe with the last one, so if you have a bit more time, would you take a look at the patch settings and hint me to where i am going "wrong" ? ( For the result of getting a SS )
Sure - later today.

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Post 05 Jun 2020

ok.... another try :)

that should definitely be more "Super" than the other two.
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Post 05 Jun 2020

NDKay wrote:
05 Jun 2020
ok.... another try :)

that should definitely be more "Super" than the other two.
That's better, although you don't have to get too complex with modulating things. And I would personally stick with saw waves. A classic supersaw sound is pretty simple and straightforward. To make the classic supersaw sound on the JP-8080 for example, you basically just select the Super Saw OSC, and then adjust two knobs. The sound creates itself (which is why the JPs rock!).
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Post 06 Jun 2020

Thanks for the clarification :thumbs_up:
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Post 07 Jun 2020

take this :cool:
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Post 07 Jun 2020

aaand another one !

Full Modwheel changes to (FX)Pluck ;-)
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Post 09 Jun 2020

Hi folks,

just a quick plug for another thread that relates to a new project of this type.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7518115

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Post 20 Jun 2020

... and one more contribution, this time for thor.

And for Signature matters, i would go for "ND" if there is no other one with that . ?
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Post 29 Jun 2020

This is how I've been creating them lately, Subtractors stacked in stereo pairs the Matrix pattern provides the detune and can be controlled by
sliding up the gate, switching to note CV provides fixed detune and you can play with the Tie and step length. Enjoy
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Post 22 Jul 2020

eXode wrote:
16 May 2020
Add a RV7000 mk2 with the attached preset as an insert to the Thor patches for instant goodness! :)

RV7K_ModernEDMArenaEX.zip
Just found this and had to say Thanks. It sounds really nice on everything.
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Post 23 Jul 2020

As stolen from the stream with Paul Ortiz :P (he used just A substractor, i put 2 in the combinator)

2 Subtractors into Quartet Grain

(we can adjust the Mod Depth on Quartet to detune some more, also Jitter can be fiddled around with)
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Post 23 Jul 2020

mjxl wrote:
23 Jul 2020
As stolen from the stream with Paul Ortiz :P (he used just A substractor, i put 2 in the combinator)

2 Subtractors into Quartet Grain

(we can adjust the Mod Depth on Quartet to detune some more, also Jitter can be fiddled around with)
That was a good stream, and I was also taken by the ease in which he created "that sound".
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Post 23 Jul 2020

mjxl wrote:
23 Jul 2020
As stolen from the stream with Paul Ortiz :P (he used just A substractor, i put 2 in the combinator)

2 Subtractors into Quartet Grain

(we can adjust the Mod Depth on Quartet to detune some more, also Jitter can be fiddled around with)
Yea, that was amazing... That old Subtractor sounded great 😂👍
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Post 24 Jul 2020

Loque wrote:
23 Jul 2020
mjxl wrote:
23 Jul 2020
As stolen from the stream with Paul Ortiz :P (he used just A substractor, i put 2 in the combinator)

2 Subtractors into Quartet Grain

(we can adjust the Mod Depth on Quartet to detune some more, also Jitter can be fiddled around with)
Yea, that was amazing... That old Subtractor sounded great 😂👍
My favorite Super Saws have come from Subtractor for some reason. Still really love seven Subtractors in a Combinator using the traditional pitch detune values and adding stereo panning. I really love envelope modulation of the detune, starting with more detune and quickly decaying to minimal detune, especially for pluck sounds. My first Super Saw was for a Reaktor model of the JP back when I first got Reaktor in the early 2000s, later stumbling on an early draft of Adam Szabo which became his excellent research paper (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1852/2 ... 68a251.pdf).

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