I sure would pay for a Dual Arp player refill

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jayhosking
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07 Oct 2018

See subject line. I love the end result of using the Dual Arp player, and tinkering with existing patches, but building a patch from scratch with the Dual Arp is a real chore, a trial-and-error process, and a creativity killer. It looks pretty but the UI isn't very much fun for entering sequences/rhythms.

I know there are giant refills of randomized values in Dual Arp, and they're fun to explore, but I sure would appreciate a curated collection of deliberate and musical patches for the Dual Arp player. Maybe you find the player's UI more fun to work with, or maybe you're simply much better than me at making patches. If you are making these aplenty, I'd be happy to buy it from you!

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Flavolous
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07 Oct 2018

I agree, this and scales and chords refills. These would be worthwhile investments!

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Boombastix
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07 Oct 2018

Funny I was thinking the same yesterday. Can we start a community refill?

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10 Oct 2018

I'd consider it...but only IF (and its a big IF)...the P-heads also do a MIDI implementation enhancement that would provide MIDI IN/OUT ports on the back of the player so you could route the player however you wished. You could have Part 1 going to one VI and Part 2 another. Think of the possibilities that might provide. I've been saying for months that the next major Reason upgrade needs to include significant MIDI implementation enhancements, including the ability to route MIDI much we can Audio on the back of the rack, with virtual cables and all that.

Such an improvement would make the idea of more refills for the Dual Arp player even more enticing.

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jayhosking
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10 Oct 2018

Boombastix wrote:
07 Oct 2018
Funny I was thinking the same yesterday. Can we start a community refill?

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Maybe this is the right way to go? I can see myself making a few, and if everybody did that, we'd all benefit.

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10 Oct 2018

Boombastix wrote:
07 Oct 2018
Funny I was thinking the same yesterday. Can we start a community refill?

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Very good idea, I would participate in a community Refill as well.

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Boombastix
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10 Oct 2018

Send your request to PH support so they see it for sure. I have already requested Midi out from VSTs. The more that request it the better.

You have a free player that you can route Midi with already. Just download it.
DonnieAlan wrote:I'd consider it...but only IF (and its a big IF)...the P-heads also do a MIDI implementation enhancement that would provide MIDI IN/OUT ports on the back of the player so you could route the player however you wished. You could have Part 1 going to one VI and Part 2 another. Think of the possibilities that might provide. I've been saying for months that the next major Reason upgrade needs to include significant MIDI implementation enhancements, including the ability to route MIDI much we can Audio on the back of the rack, with virtual cables and all that.

Such an improvement would make the idea of more refills for the Dual Arp player even more enticing.
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QVprod
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10 Oct 2018

Lectric Panda has free refills for this as well as several other things on his website http://lectricpanda.com/

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Boombastix
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10 Oct 2018

Yeah, that is nice of him, but who has time to curate those randomized refills for what is useful?
QVprod wrote:Lectric Panda has free refills for this as well as several other things on his website http://lectricpanda.com/
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Boombastix wrote:
10 Oct 2018
Yeah, that is nice of him, but who has time to curate those randomized refills for what is useful?
QVprod wrote:Lectric Panda has free refills for this as well as several other things on his website http://lectricpanda.com/
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It would be no different than any other refill or patch list. What's useful is relative to what you're doing.

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11 Oct 2018

QVprod wrote:
10 Oct 2018
Boombastix wrote:
10 Oct 2018
Yeah, that is nice of him, but who has time to curate those randomized refills for what is useful?

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It would be no different than any other refill or patch list. What's useful is relative to what you're doing.
It is different in that the search space is vastly larger than a traditional refill. It is also not curated to be musical per se, but rather based on the procedural generation of values.

Please note where this thread started. I have these refills and donmt find them to be particularly useful when trying to make an arpeggio, even though they occasionally lead to some great and unexpected creativity.

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Boombastix
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11 Oct 2018

Not only that, if we work together there is an opportunity that ideas feed off each other so we get more musically interesting patches.
jayhosking wrote:
QVprod wrote:
10 Oct 2018
It would be no different than any other refill or patch list. What's useful is relative to what you're doing.
It is different in that the search space is vastly larger than a traditional refill. It is also not curated to be musical per se, but rather based on the procedural generation of values.

Please note where this thread started. I have these refills and donmt find them to be particularly useful when trying to make an arpeggio, even though they occasionally lead to some great and unexpected creativity.
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jayhosking wrote:
11 Oct 2018
QVprod wrote:
10 Oct 2018


It would be no different than any other refill or patch list. What's useful is relative to what you're doing.
It is different in that the search space is vastly larger than a traditional refill. It is also not curated to be musical per se, but rather based on the procedural generation of values.

Please note where this thread started. I have these refills and donmt find them to be particularly useful when trying to make an arpeggio, even though they occasionally lead to some great and unexpected creativity.
That's totally fine. The OP doesn't mention you being aware of the refill so I suggested it. I'm not saying theres no room for other refills of Dual Arp.

DonnieAlan
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14 Oct 2018

I sent this feature request on to the P-heads a long time ago. And they even emailed me for more detailed info as to what I had in mind. I know others like you have made the same or similar request. Hopefully, they've heard us!
Boombastix wrote:
10 Oct 2018
Send your request to PH support so they see it for sure. I have already requested Midi out from VSTs. The more that request it the better.

You have a free player that you can route Midi with already. Just download it.
DonnieAlan wrote:I'd consider it...but only IF (and its a big IF)...the P-heads also do a MIDI implementation enhancement that would provide MIDI IN/OUT ports on the back of the player so you could route the player however you wished. You could have Part 1 going to one VI and Part 2 another. Think of the possibilities that might provide. I've been saying for months that the next major Reason upgrade needs to include significant MIDI implementation enhancements, including the ability to route MIDI much we can Audio on the back of the rack, with virtual cables and all that.

Such an improvement would make the idea of more refills for the Dual Arp player even more enticing.
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