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HeavyViper
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11 Jan 2018

I'm definitely still interested in Refills and still see value in them. Bitley's WBF R2 is on my shortlist for when I rustle up the cash, as it looks and sounds like the end-all-be-all of the format (please hold off on closing until I get my copy ;3 )!

In general, I can still appreciate a Refill that's just a tight little collection of quality sounds. It's undeniable that Reason has changed for the better in recent years, and as a result a lot of Refills that were handy in the past are pretty much obsolete. But even if they just have a couple of samples or loops that come in handy, I'll hold onto them. It's fun to trawl back through decades-old Refills and find that one quirky one some weirdo put together in 2002, especially if it's just a grabbag of things they thought sounded awesome. Digital relics, if you will.

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tobypearce
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11 Jan 2018

I posted on this thread a while back I think. I do still see advantages to refills:
many companies, like UVI, make their living on sample-based software, and many refills do the same job, bringing in samples of old hardware units into the Reason environment. If you compare the pricing, a decent Refill like analogue monsters is very cost effective.
The other notable advantage is cpu use. You can pick up hardware emulations via Arturia, but these are quite heavy on CPU and you can't sprinkle them liberally across your tracks. Refills, on the other hand, usually take up minimal cpu.


wishMachine
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17 Jan 2018

I remember this being discussed somewhat on the old PUF (this may well have been pre Re though). There was a lot more argument against non sample based refills due to the fact that you can fire up synths and create sounds, you can not create exact replicas of the sampled instruments within Reason stock devices. I have bought a few refills (really not many) most of those are sample based drum refills. Sure I could trawl the internet for specific sounds which I'll then forget to include in the song, which I'll put on a usb stick and take to a different machine whereby the track has huge gaps because somebody forgot... With refills it's already all there, super convenient like. It is a valid platform.
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QVprod
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17 Jan 2018

wishMachine wrote:
17 Jan 2018
I remember this being discussed somewhat on the old PUF (this may well have been pre Re though). There was a lot more argument against non sample based refills due to the fact that you can fire up synths and create sounds, you can not create exact replicas of the sampled instruments within Reason stock devices.
I remember a similar conversation, but I believe it was the other way around (could've been 2 different threads). With sample based refills you were stuck to whatever presets were sampled as is - which is how many developers chose to sample. Sampling the oscillators could get you closer, but the envelopes and filters would still be different. Either way you can't create an exact replica but with synth based refills the presets were more easily tweak-able and one can learn sound design from it.

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moneykube
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18 Jan 2018

refills are great... unfortunately they get pirated too much... must be a way to stop it somehow...
stop hurting developers

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Carly(Poohbear)
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18 Jan 2018

moneykube wrote:
18 Jan 2018
refills are great... unfortunately they get pirated too much... must be a way to stop it somehow...
stop hurting developers

I'm surprised no one has come up with a RE (IDT even) device shell that they could say license out to refill makers that will lock their samples in. (saves the refill makers having to spend any real time developing the RE and concentrate on sound design).

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18 Jan 2018

Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
18 Jan 2018
moneykube wrote:
18 Jan 2018
refills are great... unfortunately they get pirated too much... must be a way to stop it somehow...
stop hurting developers

I'm surprised no one has come up with a RE (IDT even) device shell that they could say license out to refill makers that will lock their samples in. (saves the refill makers having to spend any real time developing the RE and concentrate on sound design).
That's pretty much what IDT is IMO!
;)
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PGR
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18 Jan 2018

selig wrote:
18 Jan 2018
Carly(Poohbear) wrote:
18 Jan 2018



I'm surprised no one has come up with a RE (IDT even) device shell that they could say license out to refill makers that will lock their samples in. (saves the refill makers having to spend any real time developing the RE and concentrate on sound design).
That's pretty much what IDT is IMO!
;)
Pretty much as:

1. With some basic knowledge in computer programming, this is easy

or

2. Put your Subtractor and Combinator patches in the "IDT Packer" and you have a IDT instrument?

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QVprod
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18 Jan 2018

PGR wrote:
18 Jan 2018
selig wrote:
18 Jan 2018


That's pretty much what IDT is IMO!
;)
Pretty much as:

1. With some basic knowledge in computer programming, this is easy

or

2. Put your Subtractor and Combinator patches in the "IDT Packer" and you have a IDT instrument?
The former. IDT is for sample based instruments so no Subtractor patches. You can convert NNXT patches though, requires scripting (like Kontakt) but you're not programming the entire thing from the ground up.

Mysterygrimms
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30 Jan 2018

WBF R2 is the best refill in existence easily along with Bitley Fairlight Platinum. But I would love to see this refill in the Prop Shop as well (Just so I never lose access to it).

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Soundcells
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12 Mar 2018

Hi to all,

A new ReFill is finished 👍🏼 … and its not too long to be released: Some graphics, product text, website, audio demo …
I hope to be ready in one or two weeks :0))


Best regards,
Harald | Soundcells


PGR
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13 Mar 2018

Soundcells wrote:
12 Mar 2018
Hi to all,

A new ReFill is finished 👍🏼 … and its not too long to be released: Some graphics, product text, website, audio demo …
I hope to be ready in one or two weeks :0))


Best regards,
Harald | Soundcells
Perfect!

Mr. Watts
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20 Mar 2018

Soundcells wrote:
12 Mar 2018
Hi to all,

A new ReFill is finished 👍🏼 … and its not too long to be released: Some graphics, product text, website, audio demo …
I hope to be ready in one or two weeks :0))


Best regards,
Harald | Soundcells
Awesome! I finally grabbed Simple Sampling by the way and I love it. The piano sounds in there are some of my favorite. I look forward to seeing what's up with your new refill.

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Oquasec
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20 Mar 2018

Considering you can use anything for refills yes.
Vsts, acoustic instruments and Re can be put in there for safe keeping.
And saving projects in refill format is efficient
https://shop.propellerheads.se/rack-ext ... sequencer/
Sound Designer/Producer. (I get more mileage out of Reason than battery)

Gosh
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21 Mar 2018

Soundcells wrote:
12 Mar 2018
Hi to all,

A new ReFill is finished 👍🏼 … and its not too long to be released: Some graphics, product text, website, audio demo …
I hope to be ready in one or two weeks :0))


Best regards,
Harald | Soundcells
count me in, harald. i hope it's a refill for europa (for grain i'm covered with granular manoeuvres and luftrum 17).
cheers :)

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Kalm
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21 Mar 2018

Personally I would spend a ton of money on refills . . . but Rack Extensions and hardware has just been first on the list. Now to buy a desk. . .
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Re8et
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21 Mar 2018

Got the Boom 309 and the Salad, I like the sound-sample combinations refills, not loops, I want to make my own beat, unless the refill is some Grain-sample mangling switching forking torquein bouncing weapon of disruption, I'm not intersted... :P

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