The Legend. VST or RE? Also, general wishes re VIs and POLY
Posted: 09 Apr 2024
Sorry, I didn't know where to put it but the same goes if I put it in VST, it relates to both, so I hope this is ok.
Firstly, let's start with the poly.
I am still at a complete loss to understand and I just don't get it, why Vi's are being released with these tight voice constraints. The legend is using all of 5 percent of one core for 8 voices here on a pad sound (with obvious note stealing), this is not 2000 anymore. Even THE cheapest laptop with a base intel or AMD processor could do 32 voices on one core and have room to spare, AND every computer sold in the last decade is multi core to begin with.
I don't understand it and I never will, so I am wondering if there is any argument or reason besides "purist" and "hardware emulation".
The Legend is a perfect example as it is more of a general VA and should absolutely have a 16 poly mode.
I am playing the wonderful BP Strings patch and I will literally have to split the midi part across multiple track instances to avoid note stealing. Isn't this ridiculous in 2024? Let alone long before 2024? For a VI? We are not dealing with super tight hardware constraints of underpowered hardware synth dsp chips. I just don't get it, I will never get it, and I even think we should band together as a rule not to buy stuff that is artificially limited like this LOL.
And then instantly I will break my rule cause I want to get the Legend, only if there's a sale for the VST, or I can do a rent to own for the RE (I wish every developer allowed this for their RE no matter the price) which is something I CAN pull off, whereas paying 100 USD flat out right now I simply can not.
So this is my question.
Wait for the VST sale which will happen at some point
or do an RE rent to own and if not using Reason as my DAW, simply use it IN the reason plugin in ANY Daw!?!
I am starting to think, and this is what I am really wanting discussion about from anyone interested, that it might be worth buying RE's of *any* plugin that has both an RE and a VST, rather than the VST (or other format), due to the advantages reason can provide as a plugin. 1) I can use any Reason player or any Reason native device with it in plugin mode 2) Combinator patches although I don't see any in the Legend's sound bank in this example (does anyone do 3rd party killer legend patches with combis too)?
What do you think? I know this might be a weird way of looking at it, specifically buying RE over VST/AU etc, but looking at it from the point of all the unique interactions we can make with it in Reason's rack, including in the plugin version, so I can do all this even in Pro Tools, well, it really got me thinking today when I went and put Legend on my future VST bucket list and I thought, "Hang on, why not just get the RE at 10 bucks a month and use it in any DAW anyway"?
Thoughts?
What would you prefer of the two?
Firstly, let's start with the poly.
I am still at a complete loss to understand and I just don't get it, why Vi's are being released with these tight voice constraints. The legend is using all of 5 percent of one core for 8 voices here on a pad sound (with obvious note stealing), this is not 2000 anymore. Even THE cheapest laptop with a base intel or AMD processor could do 32 voices on one core and have room to spare, AND every computer sold in the last decade is multi core to begin with.
I don't understand it and I never will, so I am wondering if there is any argument or reason besides "purist" and "hardware emulation".
The Legend is a perfect example as it is more of a general VA and should absolutely have a 16 poly mode.
I am playing the wonderful BP Strings patch and I will literally have to split the midi part across multiple track instances to avoid note stealing. Isn't this ridiculous in 2024? Let alone long before 2024? For a VI? We are not dealing with super tight hardware constraints of underpowered hardware synth dsp chips. I just don't get it, I will never get it, and I even think we should band together as a rule not to buy stuff that is artificially limited like this LOL.
And then instantly I will break my rule cause I want to get the Legend, only if there's a sale for the VST, or I can do a rent to own for the RE (I wish every developer allowed this for their RE no matter the price) which is something I CAN pull off, whereas paying 100 USD flat out right now I simply can not.
So this is my question.
Wait for the VST sale which will happen at some point
or do an RE rent to own and if not using Reason as my DAW, simply use it IN the reason plugin in ANY Daw!?!
I am starting to think, and this is what I am really wanting discussion about from anyone interested, that it might be worth buying RE's of *any* plugin that has both an RE and a VST, rather than the VST (or other format), due to the advantages reason can provide as a plugin. 1) I can use any Reason player or any Reason native device with it in plugin mode 2) Combinator patches although I don't see any in the Legend's sound bank in this example (does anyone do 3rd party killer legend patches with combis too)?
What do you think? I know this might be a weird way of looking at it, specifically buying RE over VST/AU etc, but looking at it from the point of all the unique interactions we can make with it in Reason's rack, including in the plugin version, so I can do all this even in Pro Tools, well, it really got me thinking today when I went and put Legend on my future VST bucket list and I thought, "Hang on, why not just get the RE at 10 bucks a month and use it in any DAW anyway"?
Thoughts?
What would you prefer of the two?