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Yeah really smooth thanks
Actually although the ribbon is not automatable you can record automation while using the ribbon and all the automation will get recorded
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Ok, but if you find the same envelope values, then? (I guess it doesn't have a smaller range of magnitude in the envelopes?)
You could probably replicate many PX7 patches generally speaking - in spirit, you'd get close enough I'd say. But maybe some of the more detailed envelope things would be impossible to replicate, and the scaling of operators over the keyboard wouldn't be as specific, and not sure if Algoritm has a pitch envelope unless you patch one in via the CV inputs (but that's the fun of Reason!).
Yeah, you can. Since you can use the Curves and mix them with the internal envelopes, and even use envelopes from operators not making sounds, you have quite a lot of options. You can also modulate the envelope parameters for different curves. While our aim was to NOT be feature-for-feature of the grandparents of FM, there's quite a lot of overlap and you can get REAL close.RoryM0 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021You could probably replicate many PX7 patches generally speaking - in spirit, you'd get close enough I'd say. But maybe some of the more detailed envelope things would be impossible to replicate, and the scaling of operators over the keyboard wouldn't be as specific, and not sure if Algoritm has a pitch envelope unless you patch one in via the CV inputs (but that's the fun of Reason!).
EDIT: However maybe you could use the curves on Algoritm in a creative way to get closer to some of these things?
Ah yes, all those envelopes can go anywhere. Oh that's great!MattiasHG wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021Yeah, you can. Since you can use the Curves and mix them with the internal envelopes, and even use envelopes from operators not making sounds, you have quite a lot of options. You can also modulate the envelope parameters for different curves. While our aim was to NOT be feature-for-feature of the grandparents of FM, there's quite a lot of overlap and you can get REAL close.RoryM0 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021
You could probably replicate many PX7 patches generally speaking - in spirit, you'd get close enough I'd say. But maybe some of the more detailed envelope things would be impossible to replicate, and the scaling of operators over the keyboard wouldn't be as specific, and not sure if Algoritm has a pitch envelope unless you patch one in via the CV inputs (but that's the fun of Reason!).
EDIT: However maybe you could use the curves on Algoritm in a creative way to get closer to some of these things?
You mean you want to modulate actual algorithm's routing with CV? I don't think you can. You can connect everything to everything and then modulate the volumes to keep some connections active and others inactive, but that wouldn't be very practical.
That modulates the pitch of the OP, not the algorithm.
I guess freq would be the pitch of the op, tune the fine tuning, and wave would be specific to the osc & noise module.Jagwah wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021I'd really like to modulate an OP in Algoritm using a CV input and my own sources for modulating, maybe this doesn't really work but it's cool for experimentation. To do this in the matrix, is there something specifically I can assign CV1 to to do this? Freq, Tune and Wave Modulation seem like they might be appropriate just not sure as it's a bit confusing. I've always wanted to do this, couldn't do it in Blamsoft's Zero, so maybe it's not a thing to do hmmm
You can't load a patch from PX7 (that I know of anyway, it would at least need some kind of very smart converter). There is nothing to stop you using this like the PX7 though, the principles of FM have not changed.ab459 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021Guys, I feel like I can't get an answer to my question, or he really isn't able to repeat PX7 patches manually.
RoryM0 say - probably, MattiasHG say - yes you can - but about some other things.
If speech going about that here the operators / envelopes are even not able to reproduce (optionally of course) the work on the same principle as in the PX7 , then this is rather sad.
But I hope this is not the case.
The envelopes are not the same principle as D/PX7 envelopes. Here they are normal ADSR envelopes, on the D/PX7 you have separate envelopes for level and rate and control over each stage.ab459 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021Guys, I feel like I can't get an answer to my question, or he really isn't able to repeat PX7 patches manually.
RoryM0 say - probably, MattiasHG say - yes you can - but about some other things.
If speech going about that here the operators / envelopes are even not able to reproduce (optionally of course) the work on the same principle as in the PX7 , then this is rather sad.
But I hope this is not the case.
Yes i understand - I already wrote above that do not meant importing patches.Enlightenspeed wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021You can't load a patch from PX7 (that I know of anyway, it would at least need some kind of very smart converter). There is nothing to stop you using this like the PX7 though, the principles of FM have not changed.
Again - but synth that can a much more - should be capable to replicate these difference - no ??RoryM0 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021The envelopes are not the same principle as D/PX7 envelopes. Here they are normal ADSR envelopes, on the D/PX7 you have separate envelopes for level and rate and control over each stage.ab459 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021Guys, I feel like I can't get an answer to my question, or he really isn't able to repeat PX7 patches manually.
RoryM0 say - probably, MattiasHG say - yes you can - but about some other things.
If speech going about that here the operators / envelopes are even not able to reproduce (optionally of course) the work on the same principle as in the PX7 , then this is rather sad.
But I hope this is not the case.
I've only had it an hour, so not sure atm. Depends on how closely you want to replicate.... if you mean exactly replicate the parameters of any PX7 patch across all musical pitches and sound exactly the same in all circumstances.... then I'm going to say no, that definitely isn't possible. It's not PX7 nor is it trying to be, it's a different instrument.
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