Algoritm is released!

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27 Feb 2021

Ahornberg wrote:
27 Feb 2021
SoundObjects wrote:
27 Feb 2021
Can someone help ? :shock:

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28 Feb 2021

miscend wrote:
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kuhliloach wrote:
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Looks promising. Had this been added to the R11 product instead of being a stand alone $99 product I might have upgraded to 11. Certainly not buying a $99 synth separately.
When has anything like that ever happened.
The last time they did this was the last time I last paid $99 or more for a stand alone synth from Reason Studios: never! (and I never will)

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kuhliloach wrote:
28 Feb 2021
miscend wrote:
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When has anything like that ever happened.
The last time they did this was the last time I last paid $99 or more for a stand alone synth from Reason Studios: never! (and I never will)
Is this because you won't pay $99 or more for *any* plugin synth, or because no RS synth RE can ever be worth $99 but VSTs can be?

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28 Feb 2021

How long do you think we will have to wait before it goes on sale........

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28 Feb 2021

Billy+ wrote:
28 Feb 2021
How long do you think we will have to wait before it goes on sale........
May madness, 30% off. If not then, bf sales.

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EdGrip wrote:
28 Feb 2021
kuhliloach wrote:
28 Feb 2021


The last time they did this was the last time I last paid $99 or more for a stand alone synth from Reason Studios: never! (and I never will)
Is this because you won't pay $99 or more for *any* plugin synth, or because no RS synth RE can ever be worth $99 but VSTs can be?
It just seems to be excessive pricing when some of my best synths on desktop and iOS were $5 or $10, free, or included with a DAW. I think I paid $25 for Vital Plus just to support the developer and get the extra presets.

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kuhliloach wrote:
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It just seems to be excessive pricing when some of my best synths on desktop and iOS were $5 or $10, free, or included with a DAW. I think I paid $25 for Vital Plus just to support the developer and get the extra presets.
I would have to agree with you on the overall pricing structure with most in house RS devices especially if you look at it in terms of using them only in reason, but since the introduction of RRP I'm afraid that argument no longer stands.

Don't get me wrong I still think they are over priced but they always do some reasonable deals so if you don't mind waiting then it's not that much of a problem.

I'm hoping that now they have decided on not including extra devices in the main DAW update that the price of the DAW will come down and make spending the extras on devices a bit more accessible.

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01 Mar 2021

:exclamation: BUG or by Design?????

If you Route an Envelope from a Slot (Maybe 1 Fm - Unit) to another Slot (maybe Fm Osc too), via Matrix, the destination-Osc recognizing Attack, Decay and Sustain But NOT the Releaselevel ???

Will be Fine of this will working as expexted, because That way we can use one Masterenvelope and habe Not to change this Valutamark in each OSC (of Same Values needed.

(PS: this RE is the Best, Reasonstudios / Props ever did. Very fair pricing :thumbs_up: )

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01 Mar 2021

JdA57 wrote:
01 Mar 2021
:exclamation: BUG or by Design?????

If you Route an Envelope from a Slot (Maybe 1 Fm - Unit) to another Slot (maybe Fm Osc too), via Matrix, the destination-Osc recognizing Attack, Decay and Sustain But NOT the Releaselevel ???

Will be Fine of this will working as expexted, because That way we can use one Masterenvelope and habe Not to change this Valutamark in each OSC (of Same Values needed.

(PS: this RE is the Best, Reasonstudios / Props ever did. Very fair pricing :thumbs_up: )
It is by design.
In most FM synthesis implementations operators have their own distinct envelopes. Sometimes there is global time offset or even ADSR but that is only offsetting what is already set in each operator. In Algoritm it is Dec/Rel parameter offset.
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Billy+ wrote:
28 Feb 2021
How long do you think we will have to wait before it goes on sale........
November 2021 at the earliest, I'd wager. They won't put it on sale for May Madness - that's barely 3 months away. I can't recall anytime in the past they launched an RE at full price and then put it on sale that soon.
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Billy+ wrote:
28 Feb 2021
How long do you think we will have to wait before it goes on sale........
EnochLight wrote:
01 Mar 2021
November 2021 at the earliest, I'd wager. They won't put it on sale for May Madness - that's barely 3 months away. I can't recall anytime in the past they launched an RE at full price and then put it on sale that soon.

You say that but Friktion is only 6 months old and I'm sure I picked it up on BF sale ;)

Luckily I don't suffer with FOMO :lol:

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T-minus 26 hours and counting...


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Billy+ wrote:
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You say that but Friktion is only 6 months old and I'm sure I picked it up on BF sale ;)
Did Reason+ exist then? :lol: At any rate, sounds like you got a good deal. Maybe users will get lucky with Algoritm in 3 months. :thumbup:
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EnochLight wrote:
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Did Reason+ exist then? :lol: At any rate, sounds like you got a good deal. Maybe users will get lucky with Algoritm in 3 months. :thumbup:
I was sure that nothing was supposed to change for us perpetual user, R+ was just another method to access Reason?

Are you saying that we will get harsher treatment for not subscribing........

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01 Mar 2021

Rappelled Hero wrote:
26 Feb 2021
I won't be able to test this until next week.

In the mean time, can anyone advise what the CPU usage of this is like?

Is it comparable to PX7 in CPU use? And is it more CPU heavy or less CPU heavy than Europa?

Please let me know! Thank you
Got round to testing it and the CPU use is incredibly low, very impressed!

Just waiting on Reason Studios to release the patch for the memory-leak bug and I'll be very happy with my Reason+ sub.

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01 Mar 2021

Billy+ wrote:
01 Mar 2021
EnochLight wrote:
01 Mar 2021

Did Reason+ exist then? :lol: At any rate, sounds like you got a good deal. Maybe users will get lucky with Algoritm in 3 months. :thumbup:
I was sure that nothing was supposed to change for us perpetual user, R+ was just another method to access Reason?

Are you saying that we will get harsher treatment for not subscribing........
Well that was already debunked wasn't it? All that "they're gonna charge more for their REs now" stuff...and they didn't did they? Algoritm is $99. And keep in mind that Parsec has always been $119.

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Billy+ wrote:
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Are you saying that we will get harsher treatment for not subscribing........
You make it sound like we're indentured servants working the fields. :lol: I really have no idea; just posing a possible outcome. Do they always put new RE's on sale within 90 days of release? I really don't know - I haven't followed those trends. Black Friday does tend to be the benchmark that many retailers who sell in western markets do their biggest discounts, though - so perhaps Friktion was put on sale so soon for that reason. The "May Madness" sale is completely made up and not typically something that moves retail markets nearly as much as Black Friday. Guess I would just be surprised if it does go on sale for that so soon.
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01 Mar 2021

That's what I thought.

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01 Mar 2021

Algoritm looks amazing and dead easy to use. Awesome tutorial by Ryan.
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01 Mar 2021

Billy+ wrote:
25 Feb 2021
James you still need to sort out the extra space between the pack title and the RS logo!
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https://share.reasonstudios.com/pack/184/
https://share.reasonstudios.com/pack/185/
https://share.reasonstudios.com/pack/186/
Other than the first Pack, those sound absolutely dreadful. :shock: Not a good sell for the Reason+ sub! Or Algoritm.
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stratatonic wrote:
01 Mar 2021
Billy+ wrote:
25 Feb 2021
James you still need to sort out the extra space between the pack title and the RS logo!
IMG_2536.JPG

https://share.reasonstudios.com/pack/184/
https://share.reasonstudios.com/pack/185/
https://share.reasonstudios.com/pack/186/
Other than the first Pack, those sound absolutely dreadful. :shock: Not a good sell for the Reason+ sub!
I also prefer the first one :thumbs_up:

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01 Mar 2021

My $0.02; I am trialing this and yeah, it's super cool. But After having been a loyal Reason user since Reason 6.5 I agree that RS' procing structure is excessive in this very competitive space (Soft Synths). One thing DID happen though -- I got reinterested in my FM-4 by Primal Audio again lol

All that said, this IS a cool implementation with a ton of possibilities. Even I, a synth hack can see that. The look is different somehow too. This whole business with Reason+ had an effect on my outlook toward music making in general, and this will be a casualty of that I'm afraid. I've sworn to use what I have going forward, already having more toys than I can ever really learn. I did the math on all my purchases both in the Reason environment and elsewhere (Cakewalk SONAR, now Bandlab), and of course Reaper -- plus the various VSTs I have acquired in that world. I was astounded. I don't do this for a living, so this keeping up with the latest is patently unnecessary lol.
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01 Mar 2021

Billy+ wrote:
01 Mar 2021
stratatonic wrote:
01 Mar 2021

Other than the first Pack, those sound absolutely dreadful. :shock: Not a good sell for the Reason+ sub!
I also prefer the first one :thumbs_up:
The thing about Algoritm is that it's so easy to program, having patch packs for it seems kind of unnecessary!

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01 Mar 2021

Rappelled Hero wrote:
01 Mar 2021
The thing about Algoritm is that it's so easy to program, having patch packs for it seems kind of unnecessary!
You will have to forgive me for asking but as I don't have access to the content packs I'm flying blind, but don't the packs show more advanced and interesting configurations using extra devices?

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